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00:06 Speaker 1: Good day knuckleheads.
Uncle Knackers here.
And today's video is a followup to that last demolition/asbestos video.
And just in case you missed it, I'll leave a link to it in the description box below.
So make sure you check that one out first.
Now today's video, I'd like to bring in an asbestos expert for us to have a chat to.
So make sure you stick around, because this should be a good one.
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00:37 S1: And I apologize for the slightly reddish kind of hue.
It's just that we're standing on a red floor.
Yes, a red floor with a white ceiling.
And that's not the best combination for shooting video, or for anything else for that matter.
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00:56 S1: Is this an Australian video or what!
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01:01 S1: Thanks fellas, on cue.
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01:07 S1: So here we are talking with Peter Green from Green Brothers Asbestos Removals.
How are you mate?
01:12 Speaker 2: Good, Shane.
How are you?
01:13 S1: Good mate, good.
Thanks for doing this.
Much appreciated.
Now, Peter is a licensed asbestos contractor and you've been doing it for how long now?
01:21 S2: Me and my brother, 10 years, each experience.
And then, we've been set up for four years now at our own Asbestos Removal.
01:28 S1: Okay, beautiful.
Now Peter and Rob are the guys who are doing the asbestos removal for my renovation.
Now what I thought we'd do first, Pete, is just go over the legalities of removing asbestos,
and then, look at taking a sheet of asbestos off a wall, and then look at how to dispose
of that properly.
Does that sound good?
01:48 S2: Sounds good.
Let's get it done.
01:49 S1: Let's do it.
So, from a legal point of view, Pete, how much can a DIYer remove?
01:56 S2: Legally in Australia, it's 10 square meters.
Anyone at home can do 10 square meters.
So if your job becomes over 10 square, then you need to get a professional opinion.
If you've got a piece like that, that needs taking off, then legally you're allowed to
do it.
02:09 S1: So really, 10 square meters is basically only one wall of a bedroom, something like
that.
02:15 S2: Yes, it's not a lot.
And chances they are going to come across 10 are probably rare.
If you've got 10, you're gonna have more.
02:21 S1: That's right.
That's right.
02:22 S2: So, get the professionals in.
But if you're happy to attempt it yourself, [02:25] ____.
02:26 S1: Yeah, I got it.
And what about this website you can go to?
02:30 S2: It's all through websites, Work Safe Australia I think they are these days,
they provide everything.
I mean, every state, every territory's got to be different.
Look up your local...
Work [02:38] ____ All the information's there.
02:42 S1: So, if in doubt, just go to those websites.
02:44 S2: There's plenty of information these days.
Codes of practices.
That's what we...
That's how all our stuff is going on as a code of practice for removing asbestos.
It's all there.
02:52 S1: That's it.
So, just be safe.
So Pete, when removing asbestos you also need special equipment, don't you?
02:59 S2: You do.
03:00 S1: And we start off with personal protection being the suit, which is a...
03:07 S2: Its a Particle 5, which is for hazardous material.
03:10 S1: Yeah.
03:10 S2: For all hazardous material.
There are different ones available on the market.
But make sure you check the back.
Maybe you'll find out if they're rated for half dry dust.
03:17 S1: Dry dust.
Yeah.
03:18 S2: So you want to be covered from head to toe.
03:19 S1: Head to toe.
Yeah.
And the mask?
03:22 S2: Different masks, yeah, there as well.
You got a P3.
03:26 S1: So, P3 is, that's the actual grade, isn't it?
03:29 S2: It's the grade, they all are rated for different materials.
The minimum is P2 for asbestos particle materials.
And a P2 paper mask is fine.
A lot of times we use these on smaller jobs.
Larger jobs I'm a bit more comfortable with something like this.
03:44 S1: Yeah, P3.
03:46 S2: P3.
It just fits better.
A bit more cost effective in the long run.
03:51 S1: So, I think from my view point, I'd definitely go for one of these babies,
I think.
03:56 S2: They retail around the $100 mark.
With all the rest of them...
Different really...
You have pre-filters in them, which will get rid of the majority.
I don't think any mask you get on the market is 100% guaranteed.
But they're right up there.
04:11 S1: Okay.
No worries.
So once you got yourself covered up from head to toe, you have your mask on.
04:16 S2: We have spray.
Obviously you need water on the site.
04:19 S1: So what's the water for?
04:20 S2: Dust suppression.
Any type of dust.
Obviously water is a good thing to keep dust down.
You don't want too much water so this spray is great.
04:28 S1: So you spray your sheet down first?
04:30 S2: To get the moisture on there.
A lot of dust that comes off these sheets is dust that is in your cavity in general.
Might not even contain asbestos, but it's good just to suppress those dust fibers.
04:39 S1: That's right.
04:39 S2: And keep everything to a minimum.
04:41 S1: So you've got one with water and one with PVA mixed into it.
04:43 S2: Fine water mix, take the bottle, any spray bottle.
Sometimes we use hoses on larger jobs.
You're gonna really need, watch that run up.
And then we have our PVA glue mix, wood glue, concrete, which is just a good thing to seal
up fibers.
Any broken sheets are in your house, a bit of PVA glue.
Strong milky paste, there's no major set ratios.
Every bottle is going to be different, but just get a nice milky, strong mix in there.
05:11 S1: That milky consistancy...
05:13 S2: Give it a hit and let it dry and you should be...
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05:15 S1: Self dry.
Cool.
Now, vacuum cleaner.
05:20 S2: Vacuum cleaner's another important part.
Obviously if you're not doing it commercially, it's pretty expensive and not really worth
your while.
But nearly vital to have on jobs.
05:30 S1: So that's a H5 rated vacuum cleaner.
05:32 S2: They're rated H5, they've got a HEPA filter in them, which is standard and
not just your normal vacuum that you can buy from the market.
These things retail for around $2,000.
All different pricing, different styles you can get.
You really need to be getting an H5 class for asbestos.
05:47 S1: And no doubt you can rent one of those anyway.
You can rent them out...
05:49 S2: I think [05:49] ____ rent them, but once again they try to refer away from
what you use and for...
Something that should be looked after and kept safe, kept cleaned up.
06:00 S1: And basically you don't want to use your own home vacuum cleaner.
06:04 S2: No.
You get a lot of people just thinking they use at home, a lot of them come with a HEPA
filter these days, not the HEPA filter you want.
They're only a basic HEPA filter, you really want something that's H5.
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06:14 S1: Yep, commercial.
Now...
06:16 S2: Basic hand tools?
06:17 S1: Oh you also got your boots?
06:19 S2: Boots.
Once again we don't want anything that's going to catchment the fibres, so you really want
like a leathery thing that's going to be able to easily vacuum off, rinse off, at the end
of the jobs.
06:28 S1: Wash it off, yep.
06:28 S2: Hand tools.
06:29 S1: Hand tools?
06:31 S2: Everything's done with hand tools.
06:32 S1: Don't you use power tools?
06:33 S2: Power tools are illegal to use on asbestos.
Any type of power tools you don't want to use, they spread the fibres.
Everything's gotta be kept to a minimum so we use the basic hand tools.
06:41 S1: Yeah, so we've got a hammer, a little crowbar and some pincers to get those nails
out.
Now, plastic, because you need to wrap?
06:53 S2: And plastic's probably the most important.
We lay a drop sheet down so all of that stuff's falling on plastic, then wrapped in another
drop sheet.
Double layered which is 200nm plastic is what you need, which is a rating.
So it won't pierce it so much.
We've double wrapped and we're using a good tape, to tape them up, seal them up nice and
tight.
07:13 S1: Excellent.
Now, so that's the equipment, what about signage?
So Pete, as far as signage goes, the main point is just to keep people out of the site,
isn't it?
07:23 S2: We definitely need a warning telling people there's asbestos going on.
Warning, danger, asbestos removal in progress.
Any entrance to your site you want signs and barricades, tape, something just to stop people
coming in.
07:34 S1: Yep.
07:34 S2: Another sign is just to let them know what's required, like any job site.
That's boots, suits in our case and masks to even come onto our site.
07:43 S1: Yeah.
07:43 S2: And we want a good 10 metre perimeter, if possible.
So what we do is safe and contained, but you don't want anyone in your sites, just keep
everyone at bay.
07:52 S1: No worries.
07:53 S2: And there should also be a contact phone number for us so if anyone does turn
up they can contact me and I can come out and de-suit and come out and actually talk
to them properly.
08:01 S1: Okay, excellent.
And we might head over to the area where you've got some asbestos already wrapped up.
08:08 S2: So, exactly how much comes out of these shelves.
08:09 S1: Okay.
So Pete, these are the stacks of asbestos that you've taken out of our property.
There's a fair bit there.
08:16 S2: There is, there's a lot that comes out of these shelves and a lot of people don't
see this side of things, but there's a lot of weight in these bags.
08:24 S1: Yep, and so each pack is individually wrapped to about 50 kilograms?
08:28 S2: Once again, every tip's different so you really need to check with your tips.
Some tips will let you dump loads of it in a truck, so you can go a bit bigger, but a
lot of tips these days want you to hand-unload them.
Two men lifts.
It saves breakage, it saves trying to dump the stuff.
08:43 S1: Yep, okay.
08:43 S2: So we've got ours at about 50 kilo packs.
Two of us that can lift and remove them.
Double-wrapped, sealed up tight and labelled.
Very important.
08:51 S1: Put that label on it.
08:52 S2: Label on it.
If you're transporting it, it needs to be labelled.
08:54 S1: Okay, cool.
So, Pete's all suited up and ready to go.
Now, what's the first plan of attack, mate?
09:01 S2: Well, to start with, we've already removed this room.
We've taken all the trims off which makes it a lot easier and we've reduced it down
to one sheet.
Sheet's been glued, all the edges have been glued already, so we're safe to stand here.
Now my process will be, once I've put my mask and that on, to hit it with a little bit of
moisture and then chip these nail heads.
09:20 S1: Every nail head needs to be chipped off.
So how do you chip those off mate, what's the process?
09:24 S2: This is where our tools come in handy.
Basically, a [09:28] ____ or a chisel, whatever you're comfortable with.
09:31 S1: Hit it on top?
09:31 S1: Knock the head off, try not to dip into that fire-grove.
You don't want to release anything.
Nice, clean hits.
Get the nails off, the whole sheet will come off nice and smooth.
We'll hit it with a little bit of moisture, we will lay out the drop sheet and we'll wrap
them up.
09:44 S1: Okay, let's do that mate.
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10:25 S2: So the chip falls down on that plastic.
Now technically, we're not breaking these pieces.
The idea is not to break, but in these conditions, we need to wrap them up they need to be broken
up otherwise trying to move this around, it's just going to snap on you when you're moving
it later.
So under these conditions we can break it.
I'm in a suit, a mask, I've got my moisture.
What I'll do is just make sure I've got the water right around where I think I'm going
to crack them.
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10:55 S2: My foot now I can put up in ease, you can just [10:57] ____.
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11:17 S2: And that gives us a pile so that can be wrapped.
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11:23 S2: So we're double wrapping.
There's one sheet.
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11:33 S2: Trying to keep everything nice and square and flat.
And coming in to the [11:37] ____.
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11:43 S2: So we seal it along the seal.
Double tape, to make sure that's nicely sealed up.
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12:16 S2: Look for any gaps in the seal.
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12:28 S2: Oh man.
We're doing double work.
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12:34 S2: This way we know nothing's coming out.
Now I can say [12:38] ____.
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12:53 S2: Well, that's [12:54] ____ be only small sheet [12:58] ____ again, with a bit
of moisture, a [13:12] ____ coming in to play [13:15] ____.
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13:39 S1: Well Pete, thanks very much for that mate, it was much appreciated.
13:39 S2: No problem.
13:40 S1: It was fantastic and I hope you all gained something out of that.
Now, asbestos removal, pretty serious business.
13:48 S2: It is.
13:49 S1: So let's sort of lighten the mood up a little bit with a couple of quick fire
questions.
Okay Pete, you ready?
13:51 S2: Yep.
13:51 S1: Alright, mate, are you ready?
Let's do it.
What do you like to watch on TV, football, footy?
14:01 S2: Footy.
14:01 S1: League or...
14:01 S2: League.
Only league.
14:03 S1: Only league, okay cool.
Chicken or steak?
14:07 S2: Steak.
14:07 S1: Steak?
14:08 S2: Steak.
14:08 S1: With what, with a Diane sauce on it or garlic butter?
14:12 S2: Maybe a plain, plain gravy.
14:12 S1: [14:13] ____.
14:13 S2: The plain one.
14:14 S1: Favorite drink?
14:16 S2: James Squire One Fifty Lashes.
14:19 S1: Woo!
Bit of the old crafty mate, sort of the...
14:22 S2: Bit of me home brew thing going there, pretty good.
14:25 S1: Home brew, oh fantastic.
Favorite holiday destination?
14:31 S2: Ooh!
Where to go?
14:31 S1: Coffs Harbour.
14:31 S2: Coffs Harbour, born and bred, you can't beat it.
14:36 S1: Star Wars or Star Trek?
14:37 S2: Star Wars, yeah.
14:42 S1: Favorite pizza topping?
14:42 S2: Meatasaurus, any meat will do me.
14:45 S1: Meatasaurus, I love it.
What would you be doing if you weren't removing asbestos?
14:50 S2: Hand in hand, it goes with demolition, so my other priority's demolition so I think
that's where I'd fall.
14:59 S1: You're a demo boy?
14:59 S2: I'm a demo boy.
14:59 S1: Okay mate, excellent.
And last but not least, who's your favorite YouTuber?
15:05 S2: Oh, of course, Shane is.
15:06 S1: Good on you mate.
Thanks a lot Pete, we appreciate it.
15:13 S1: So there you have it.
I hope you enjoyed and found that video on asbestos removal, useful.
And a big thanks to Peter Green from Green Brothers Asbestos Removals.
And I'll have a link to those guys in the description box below.
So make sure you check those guys out.
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Alright, it's a bit cold and rainy today.
It probably is time for a cup of tea.
So until next time, I'm out of here.
Cheers.