YOU KNOW, FOLKS, IT FEELS LIKE ALL I DO ON THIS SHOW IS TALK
ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE.
SOMETIMES, I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
FOR INSTANCE, KAREN PENCE.
AS THE WIFE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT, SHE IS OUR COUNTRY'S
SECOND LADY-- NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE PRESIDENT'S SECOND
LADY, STORMY DANIELS.
( LAUGHTER ) AND IN HER ROLE AS SECOND LADY,
KAREN PENCE HAS CHOSEN TO CHAMPION THE CAUSE OF ART
THERAPY, WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH THERAPY USING ART MATERIALS.
IT MAKES SENSE.
WE ALL KNOW ARTISTS ARE THE EPITOME OF MENTAL HEALTH.
I MEAN, VAN GOGH WAS SO COMFORTABLE IN HIS SKIN THAT HE
DECIDED TO CUT OFF SOME OF IT AND GIVE IT AWAY.
WELL, EVER SINCE THE ELECTION, I'VE FELT LIKE I COULD USE A BIT
OF THERAPY.
SO TO FIND OUT MORE, I SAT DOWN WITH LICENSED ART THERAPIST
RACHEL BRANDOFF BECAUSE, UNLIKE MIKE PENCE, I'M ALLOWED TO BE IN
A ROOM ALONE WITH A WOMAN.
JIM?
>> Stephen: WHAT IS ART THERAPY?
>> ART THERAPY IS A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSION.
WE EMPLOY THE CREATIVE PROCESS AS A WAY OF HELPING PEOPLE WORK
THROUGH ISSUES, INCREASE SELF-AWARENESS, HELP THEM TO
ACHIEVE WHATEVER GOALS THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO WORK ON IN
THERAPY.
>> Stephen: IN WHAT WAYS DOES ART THERAPY HELP AN INDIVIDUAL
WHO PRESENTLY, SAY, CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE HE OR SHE IS HAUNTED BY
THE IDEA THAT A MYRIAD OF LONG- ESTABLISHED NORMS HAVE BEEN
FLOUTED BY PEOPLE IN POWER, AND THEY ARE SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY AT
WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE THE STANDARDS OF MORALS AND ETHICS,
NOT ONLY IN OUR GOVERNMENT, BUT IN OUR DAILY LIVES, TO SUCH A
DEGREE THAT THERE'S A WOUND ON THE PSYCHE AND THE SOUL ON
AMERICA IN WHICH WE MAY NEVER RECOVER?
( LAUGHTER ) HOW WOULD YOU-- HOW WOULD YOU
ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> I MIGHT ASK A CLIENT TO DRAW A PICTURE OF HOW THEY'RE FEELING
TODAY.
I MIGHT ASK A CLIENT TO CREATE A PICTURE OF A BRIDGE AND PUT
THEMSELVES SOMEWHERE ON IT.
( LAUGHTER ) >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE
ON THIS BRIDGE?
>> Stephen: I USED TO BE ON THE BRIDGE.
I JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE.
( LAUGHTER ) >> SO YOU'RE NO LONGER ON THE
BRIDGE?
>> Stephen: NO LONGER ON THE BRIDGE.
I WAS ON THE BRIDGE FOR A WHILE, AND THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND
I THOUGHT, (BLEEP).
>> WELL THAT WASN'T PART OF THE INSTRUCTION.
>> Stephen: NO, IT WASN'T, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
I WENT WITH MY FEELINGS RATHER THAN WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.
>> OKAY, GOOD, CREATIVE LICENSE.
>> Stephen: SECOND LADY KAREN PENCE HAS CLAIMED ART THERAPY AS
HER AREA OF FOCUS.
DO YOU THINK THAT SHE'LL DO JUST AS GOOD OF A JOB AT CHAMPIONING
ART THERAPY AS MELANIA HAS AT CHAMPIONING ANTI-CYBER BULLYING?
>> A VERY LARGE CONTINGENT OF ART THERAPISTS ARE VERY ANGRY
THAT SHE HAS APPOINTED HERSELF AS SPOKESPERSON FOR THE FIELD.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
IS SHE, HERSELF, AN ART THERAPIST?
>> SHE IS NOT.
SHE IS AN ART EDUCATOR, AND SHE IS AN ARTIST.
>> Stephen: HAVE YOU SEEN HER STUFF?
>> I'VE SEEN SOME OF IT ONLINE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU LIKE IT?
DO YOU LIKE IT?
>> SHE'S TECHNICALLY VERY PROFICIENT.
>> Stephen: WOW, THAT IS DAMNING WITH FAINT PRAISE.
"HOW DID YOU LIKE YOUR MEAL?" TECHNICALLY, THIS IS FOOD."
DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF MIGHT BENEFIT FROM SOME
ART THERAPY?
>> I THINK HE COULD ABSOLUTELY BENEFIT FROM THERAPY.
ALTHOUGH, THERE IS A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU COULD DO THAT WITH
SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT WILLING TO BE SELF-REFLECTIVE.
>> Stephen: NOT WILLING TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK THAT'S WHY HE ALWAYS WEARS MAKEUP,
BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY DOESN'T WANT TO SEE HIS OWN FACE?
IS THAT A FORM OF ART THE WAY HE PAINTS HIS FACE EVERYDAY?
>> I'M GUESSING HE HAS SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT, AND THAT PERSON IS
PROBABLY AN ARTIST.
>> Stephen: OR BLIND.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPREAD VERY EVENLY.
MMMM, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S MAKEUP DONE BY SENSE OF SOUND.
( LAUGHTER ) >> CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THIS
PICTURE IS ABOUT?
>> Stephen: THIS IS ME IN MY HAPPY PLACE.
( LAUGHTER ) THIS IS ME JUST CALMING DOWN AT
THE END OF THE DAY.
THIS ONE'S CALLED, "NOT NOW.
DADDY'S DRINKING."
>> IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL ALL THE TIME?
>> Stephen: YES, YES.
WELL, ONLY WHEN I'M DRINKING.
>> OKAY.
>> Stephen: SO, YES, ALL THE TIME.
LET ME TRY-- LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN, OKAY?
>> IS THIS A PICTURE OF YOU?
>> Stephen: THIS IS ME.
THIS IS WHEN I'M FEELING COOL.
( LAUGHTER ) IS BOB ROSS AN ART THERAPIST?
BECAUSE WATCHING HIM IS INCREDIBLY RELAXING.
>> BOB ROSS IS DEAD.
( LAUGHTER ) BUT, NO, HE WAS NOT AN ART
THERAPIST.
>> Stephen: HOLD ON, HOLD ON
DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT?
DID YOU KNOW THAT BOB ROSS IS DEAD?
I JUST WATCHED HIM LAST NIGHT.
( LAUGHTER ) >> HE IS VERY ENTERTAINING.
>> Stephen: HOW DID HE DIE?
WAS IT MURDER?
>> I'M NOT SURE, ACTUALLY.
>> Stephen: YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> NO, I DO NOT KNOW.
>> Stephen: SO IT COULD BE MURDER.
>> THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY.
>> Stephen: DO YOU 18 BRING UP THE KATH DEATH OF PEOPLE'S HEROE
YOUR THERAPY?
>> NO, BUT I DON'T AVOID IT, EITHER.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE GOAL OF ART THERAPY?
>> ART IS A WAY OF CONNECTING TO OUR UNCONSCIOUS.
WE CAN MANIFEST THINGS IN ART THAT WE SOMETIMES ARE NOT EVEN
AWARE ARE THERE.
>> Stephen: I DON'T REMEMBER MAKING THIS ONE.
BUT I EVIDENTLY GOT UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND JUST PUT
ALL THESE SYMBOLS ON THE WALL IN OUR LIVING ROOM.
AND THE NEXT MORNING I GOT UP, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF
IT MEANS, BUT MY CAT IS MISSING.
>> HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN LOOK AT THOSE SYMBOLS NOW?
>> Stephen: UHHH, MYSTIFIED.
I HEAR A VOICE CALLING FROM BEYOND THE WALL AND TELLING ME
NOW IS THE TIME AND BLOOD IS THE KEY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
( LAUGHTER ) >> WHAT DOES THAT VOICE SOUND
LIKE?
IS IT A FAMILIAR VOICE?
>> Stephen: IF A CAT WERE A HUMAN, LIKE, "NOW IS THE TIME.
BLOOD IS THE KEY.
STEPHEN, PROTECT YOURSELF."
( LAUGHTER ) IF COPS CAME TO YOU AND SAID,
"WE WANT TO SEE HIS ART," COULD YOU DENY THEM MY ART?
IS THERE A CONFIDENTIALITY HERE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> Stephen: SO IF A COPY SAID, "WE WANT TO SEE THE PICTURE OF
HIS ART, OKAY, BECAUSE ALL THE CATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE
MISSING," WOULD YOU HAVE TO SHOW THEM MY ART, OR WOULD YOU SAY,
"NO, THAT'S COVERED UNDER, YOU KNOW, ARTIST/THERAPIST
CONFIDENTIALITY."
>> WELL, THAT'S A LIMIT TO CONFIDENTIALITY.
IF I HAD A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE TO HARM YOURSELF
OR ANOTHER PERSON, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO REPORT IT.
>> Stephen: SO YOU'RE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS?
>> ALL THE OTHER THERAPISTS THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REPORT IT?
>> Stephen: NO, ALL THE ONES WHO'VE BETRAYED ME.
OUR HOUR WAS UP, AND IT WAS TIME FOR MY DIAGNOSIS.
SHOOT FROM THE HIP, DON'T THINK.
WHAT'S MY MENTAL PROBLEM?
>> I THINK THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT ISSUES
IN TERMS OF YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ELECTION,
THE WAY OUR COUNTRY IS HEADED RIGHT NOW.
>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I AM PERFECTLY ADJUSTED AND IN NO WAY OBSESSED.
GOOD LUCK, KAREN PENCE.
ART THERAPY IS STUPID.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: OKAY, FOR THE
RECORD-- FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE RECORD, I LOVE MY CAT.
ALSO, ART THERAPY IS NOT STUPID.
I WAS JUST WORKING THROUGH SOME ISSUES.
IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO AUCTION OFF THE ARTWORK THAT I MADE THAT
DAY.
AND THE PROCEEDS WILL GO TO THE AMERICAN ART THERAPY
ASSOCIATION, OR TO HIRE A DETECTIVE TO INVESTIGATE BOB
ROSS' MURDER.
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