We're about to watch this video where Jordan Peterson looks like
he is a little upset.
He's touched by this particular interaction.
And there's this amateur provocateur.
We will know, Andy no.
And he asked him how bad is Antifa because we haven't heard about Antifa in a little
while because they're the worst in the world.
Let's listen to this exchange.
Watch what they had to say about Antifa.
>> Based on your knowledge, your background, your clinical experience.
What is it, the psychology of this mob violence?
When I see it, it like I don't even recognize some of these,
they seem animalistic, is what I mean in, [CROSSTALK]
>> They're worse than animals
because animals they just kill to eat.
Human beings, they have a twist in them that makes them far worse than animals
when they really get going.
Well, you really want to know what I think?
I think it's revenge against God for
the crime of being, that's really what I think.
It's Cain and Cain and Abel, it's like, Abel's your tables your guy, a God.
How about if I take him out in the field and beat him to death?
How do you feel about that?
All my sacrifices went unrewarded.
Yeah, it's like yeah, that's what it is.
At the bottom of the hell of things.
>> Is he still considered this highly intelligent superior human being?
I don't know. Let's but
we do want to watch again a little bit more of this crying from Jordan Peterson.
It's upset about these animals.
Watch more.
>> It's like yeah, that's what it is.
At the bottom of the hell of things.
>> The bottom of the hell of things.
I feel like you guys paid more attention to Jordan peters than I do.
This is regular for him.
>> Yeah, if you go to his Youtube channel, it's so all unhinged weird stuff.
He wrote a song that he sings on.
[LAUGH] It's so strange, it's the weirdest thing I've ever seen, but I would like to
congratulate him on perfectly encapsulating the look of busted.
I didn't know, he just looks terrible, he's down horrendous.
What happened?
It sound atrocious catastrophic.
He said he might have, he might have had a little apple cider and
it might have gone to him.
>> He famously was almost killed by a glass of apple cider.
Doesn't know.
>> I love this clip so much because of Andy knows face because that was too much
even for and then there's like, that moment was like the dragon of chaos.
And then Antifa is basically mother at the dragon all that.
And then all of a sudden he's like he's staring right at the camera and
he's like he's got a really confused look when he's like this is biblical.
This is God's revenge.
This is Cain and Abel I was like, well I never thought about that because even
Andy no, of all people, he wrote a book on like Lies about Antifa.
It's like it's the most ridiculous piece of work.
So the fact that he even, he was like, well this is this is a little much Jordan.
I think you're I think you're reaching.
>> He's like, how do we come, how do we get here?
It's just Antifa.
Yeah, honestly, I don't know if this is from three years ago or something, but
I know maybe a year or two ago.
It's not, but this is reviving that same talking point about Antifa.
I thought we were talking about Antifa when they were trying to blame January
6th on them.
Or anything else that's potentially violent in the country on Antifa because
it's Antifa, Antifa and their animals.
Is this something that just happened?
Did I miss some event?
Some kind of clash?
>> That's Andy stick, that's all he's ever done.
Everything bad that happens in Portland's Antifa, he defended
a murderer who would have guessed subscribes to Andy knows YouTube channel.
He shot an innocent woman in Portland because he was radicalized to think
that Antifa was some evil force and wanted to do violence against them.
But of course so Andy no ran defense for that person.
So did the Portland Police Department.
But yeah, that's that's what he does.
He's the Antifa expert despite having no credentials.
And just being a perpetual victim who has a fake accent and
pretends that milkshake caused him to get brain damage.
I don't know. It's a whole thing.
He's a whole character.
There's so much lower there.
>> He's upset at being.
I don't know if I want to jump this you guys because because I was fascinated by
both of y'all's rejection from social media sites.
Conservative social media sites, particularly truth social and lance,
what was the other one again?
I have no idea about that.
>> Okay, so, it's Dave Rubin's, it should be called high level ideas, but
I guess I'll digress on that one.
It's called locals, locals.com is Dave Rubin's.
>> And what was that you submitted for this?
Because we mentioned at the top of the show, but
you submitted something to be involved with locals.
>> Right, so you know how Dave Reuben is always talking about how he's all about
like high level ideas and I want everyone to spend ideas.
And every, we talked about that kind of stuff.
And he also talks a lot about cancel culture and being 1984 and
how like everyone is coming after our sexy M and M's and and potato people and
all that kind of stuff, right?
Well, I was like, okay, well he's got a social media site and if he's not into
censorship, like he claims then I should be able to call it anything I want.
So I named my account debate Sam cedar, you coward.locals.com.
And right after you make the account,
you have to get approved after you feeling all your socials and all that.
And he made me wait a year until only like a couple of weeks ago and
I was finally rejected.
But I was on pause for a full year waiting for Dave Rubin to approve that domain.
And and for a long time that domain, like if you look in the way back machine would
bring you to like locals.com is approving this account still like as a frozen page.
>> But that's what I was wanting.
So wait, what the longer it took?
Did you have more hope or less hope?
Like this is actually going longer than I thought.
>> Part of me because he's blocked me on other forms of social media.
He's blocked me on twitter has blocked me on a whole bunch of other things.
Part of me felt that he was just edging me.
Like I would have to eight and then be slowly every single day and like when,
when am I going to find out whether or
not I'm allowed to actually enter the cherished portal.
But yeah, I was tonight.
>> What would you have done if he'd gotten in though?
Because that's the thing that surprised then you have to go,
how do I back this up?
How do I continue here?
It was a mistake.
>> Well yeah, the next phase probably would have been uploading clips of Sam
cedar making fun of Dave Rubin until he kicks me off.
>> [LAUGH] >> There's aspects you never know.
And Ravana, you were on truth or you tried with True Social, but
they had the other issues now.
Maybe you can break down what it is that the issues they've had because it's been
extensive.
I'm not sure when Donald Trump launched this whole thing, but
of course truths also was supposed to be the twitter for
conservatives were the post instead of tweets, you post truths.
And it's free flowing is to get away from that discrimination and
that the censorship of twitter.
So what did you do?
>> Actually, and I had joked about this.
I think it was on an episode of the main show with Brett a few weeks ago where,
right, when truth social was about to drop.
It took like a couple of weeks for me to even like get the emails so
I could get into the app.
But I was joking before and followed through that,
some celebrities are not going to be on True Social so
you can go on true social and pretend to be those celebrities.
So I was Ben Affleck for I was at Ben Affleck.
I was going to be, you know, the real Ben Affleck and
then I flew too close to the sun when I played for verification because
my account was banned not not shortly after that or not long after that.
I mean I didn't even get to really use the app.
I really did fly too close to the Sun with that one.
[CROSSTALK] >> What would you do wrong?
I missed how you got busted just by being a celebrity.
>> That's the rule number one.
>> And blatantly.
>> Blatantly I was a little egregious with it.
I mean, [LAUGH] If I hadn't applied for verification, I could still be rocking it.
But, >> So
now they've associated whichever IP address whatever you used.
So if you try now under, >> I could
probably get back in with a different email if I wanted to.
I think it was because you know the verification process,
you have to send like a picture of my ID.
I think it was just like the picture I submitted,
it was probably the dumbest looking big picture.
[LAUGH] I could make no effort in it.
It's a picture, it's full body.
>> No, so here's the thing that I thought you see, I feel like you guys didn't try.
>> I could I could go back and try a little bit harder,
put more effort into it.
But, [LAUGH] >> Because a few days ago we did a story
about Trump JR that has started his own aggregation site when it comes
to all of the conservative time.
Not necessarily conservative, but what he sees as Mega supporters what kind of
things they want to read because apparently George report has fallen off.
They used to be this great site where conservatives can come and get real news,
not the fake stuff.
Or just things maybe about trump's time in office, all of his accomplishments.
The things that he's doing at his rallies that don't talk about how he had 35%
feeling of capacity of the place.
Which then he goes later and says it was the most glorious rally ever in,
where was the last time north Carolina history was one of those states.
And it was just amazing.
So he's pushing that, which I think in a way is something that has a better chance
of surviving than these social media sites.
Because again, you know what these folks want these conservatives folks,
these these guys to get attention that's why Ted Cruz was checking his twitter as
he was grilling scientology, Brown Jackson over the Supreme Court nomination hearing.
Is because he wanted to be heard and seen on twitter so
that he could get on Sean Hannity's show that night.
These other side sites don't work.
Maybe when Junior is pushing these other story sites that actually might be
something that can that can glom onto.
I don't know if you guys can't make that way.
>> Well I was gonna say there's a lot of alternate media that conservatives have
been trying to populate for one reason or another.
And some of them don't survive at all.
Like Gab, I mean because the problem is if you start a social media site and
you advertise it as this social media site is about free speech.
And it's only going to be in one place in the world that free
speech full rein well what usually happens is it fills up with child porn and Nazis.
Like it it's just only a matter of time because they won't be allowed in other
like social media systems.
So a lot of them do fail.
The ones that have kind of started to succeed oddly enough are rumble.
I don't know if you've heard about that or if either of you have.
It was a a format that got a lot of funding from JD Vance and
some other people Peter Thiel as well.
But it started by a Canadian and it's one of the few like YouTube alternatives that
seems to be dominated by right wingers like Donald Trump Junior's on it.
Eric Trump's on it.
Glenn Greenwald's on it, a whole bunch of different people and
it's become increasingly popular in spite of being like multimedia.
>> Yeah Rumbler may or may not have approached me.
And I may or may definitely have turned them down.
But I mean yeah I know it's good it is good money right?
It's was a small amount but like some people are getting bank to go on rumble.
I'm not going to do it, but, [LAUGH] >> We've got Like six figures apparently
quite a bit of money.
>> Wait, so, so okay.
I'm sorry because I'm the guy that avoids these types of things like its Covid.
The thing is, is, so
what's this most directly related to a YouTube or is it more like an Instagram?
Or you trying to do stories?
>> So rumbles like a YouTube alternative.
That's both, it does live streaming and it does videos.
What it is notable for is it filled up with a lot of conservative figures.
And especially conservative figures who were getting for one reason or
never kicked off other social media platforms, right?
Dan Bongino, someone who moved over to rumble.
They're also spending a lot of money acquiring assets.
Like they're spending lots and lots of capital getting big names on there.
And it's filled with a lot of huge right wing celebrities right now.
I think they're trying to balance it a bit more by reaching out to some,
I mean like you just saw raven has been apparently reached out too.
So they're trying to bring in more people to their ecosystem,
but it's rare for there to be a social media site that is going in direct
competition to something like YouTube and starting to succeed in spite everything.
But I also I don't know their numbers.
I don't know if they're just bleeding money getting all these huge names
onto it.
Yeah, it could be that.
>> Yeah, I was definitely supposed to be there segue to bringing TYT on to rumble
and I just was like, you do that.
>> [LAUGH] >> But yeah,
like a lot of people will say, it's these right wing Youtubers.
I can swear that, right?
Yeah, these fucking assholes.
We'll like go on their YouTube and they'll tease.
Like, I can't say this because I'll get banned on YouTube.
But if you want to hear my really spicy vaccine takes head on over to my rumble.
And yeah, there's less moderation there, I suppose.
So they can get away with a little bit more.
Also, there's just less eyes on it.
People just aren't paying as much attention.
Like it's become pretty successful.
But I mean obviously nowhere comparable to YouTube.
>> I'm trying to figure out what else they could possibly say on something like
rumble that they don't say and we hear everywhere else when it comes to these hot
takes on the vaccine or anything that they may want to talk about.
It's not like we don't hear the stupidity.
>> You do. But again, it's been pretty,
I think it has been demonstratively restricted on YouTube, for example,
in terms of vaccine misinformation, you can skirt around it.
Like right now, I'm going to use Euphemism such as like horse paste or like,
you know, horsey goo instead of saying the name of the medication that everyone can't
stay on YouTube because it gets you flag, gets you in trouble.
All the way up to people fully endorsing conspiracy theories and
getting their channels taken down.
Whereas on rumble, you can right now, it's pretty much the wild west outside of
extreme hate speech calls to violence and child pornography.
That they allow you to say a lot of things you can get away with.
People talking about holocaust denial, combining that with say in the end,
where like all these kind of horrible things can all be on one platform.
>> Then that gets promoted easily accepted and they go, this is great.
This is what we're looking for.
>> Well, it also comes down to how long do advertisers, like how long is this
a financial business incentive while it's filling up with the baddies, right?
Like how long can you make an entire ecosystem fill up with some of the worst
possible people.
You're Donald Trump Junior's etcetera all the way to like far right nationalists,
like Nick Fuentes and stuff like that.
There's got to be a point in which well, how do we make money?
Do advertisers want to touch this?
Were filled with all these new Nazis, right?
Dude, what's our business model going to be if we're so invested in free speech?
>> What kind of product could you possibly be selling?
[LAUGH] Little mustaches.
>> Jones still has advertisers.
So my pillow, that's it.
>> He sells his own products though.
That's the genius of Alex Jones.
He sells all his own brain pills and chicken skin and masculinity medication,
all that kind of stuff.
>> Well, Lindell would invest in these companies though.
He could always watch my pillow commercial before some anti vax video.
>> Well that's Lindell TV.
And then RSVB and all those super alternative alternative,
right wing broadcasting networks or stations or even sites.
That's where we'll find mike pillow every time.
And maybe he's thriving, but it doesn't really seem that way because
he still complains about being booted from Fox news.
That bastion of, of liberals over there, okay?
I'm sorry I could be fascinated by this stuff forever because the degree to
which I have distanced myself is astronomical.
So maybe, I'm surprised we've honored that they haven't reached out to me yet
to ask me to be a part of rumble to be introduction to TYT.
Which of course I would also say no.
What I need that for.