Pravin Gordhan: Well, the question is, how do we, as you would call it, do the inner engineering,
so that human beings can be more aligned to what I think well-being can be associated with,
which is social justice? So yes, we’ve done much better than our great-grandparents or grandparents.
But according to the World Bank, you still have forty percent of the 7.2 billion people that you refer to,
living in poverty. Sadhguru: Definitely. Pravin Gordhan: And one of their missions is to lift that
fo... forty percent out of what they would call absolute poverty, which I’m sure is an ambition that you would
share as well. Sadhguru: Definitely. One aspect of my UN engagement is to look at
how yoga could assist this Sustainable Development Goals for 2030. Now it is not that there is no disparity.
There is serious disparity, it has to be addressed. But how is the question.
If we talk about redistribution of wealth, this will lead to total chaos once again.
We have taken to market economy, not because we think it’s the best thing, but it is
the only lousy thing that’s worked for us till now (Few laugh). It’s quite a lousy thing, if you ask me.
But it’s the only thing that’s worked, unfortunately. So what is working, we should never abandon.
We must see how to make it work little better for everybody. It is a subtle arrangement of things
because right now in India it keeps happening, we are right now a market economy with a socialist hangover
in our minds.When somebody does too well, everybody says, “Oh, this is not right, look at him,
how he’s making money.”No, no, this is the... this is the ugliness of market economy, which we’ve chosen,
that somebody now walks around aaa… gold-painted, head to toe (Few laugh).
Well, my aesthetics may make me put my head down. But I should not oppose him because that is the system
we have chosen, unfortunately.And unfortunately, that is the ugly system which has worked for us to some
extent.Other beautiful systems did not work.It did not work because human beings were not ready for it.
System may be great.You need yogis running the world (Laughter), people who have a deep sense of unity
about them (Applause) (Laughs).No, when I say yogis, do not imagine that somebody is sitting
in a parti... particular posture, so he’s a yogi. Someone, who sees everybody as he would look at himself,
is a yogi.We need that kind of people to run the system. That is still too Utopian.
Yet, we’re working on the people, we’re sitting with you, we’re sitting with various
leaders around the world, ss… hoping that little bit of yoga will enter them, so that
how they look at the world, how they think and feel changes. It is not a moral thing, it is not an ethical thing.
It is just that experientially how you perceive life, if it alters even by ten percent in
the leadership, big changes will happen (Applause). I must...I must tell you this.
When I was at the Economic Forum, they asked me, “Sadhguru, if there’s one thing we
can do for you that will change the world, what is it?” I said, “I will name twenty-five people.
Give them to me for five days. You will see, in three years there’ll be a significant change in the world.”
They asked, “Who are these twenty-five people?” I named the twenty-five heads of major nations
on the planet, which amount to nearly ninety percent of the world’s economy, okay?
These twenty-five leaders, if they think little differently, everything would change.