we talked about Dorian Yates earlier and
You know you've said that aesthetics is
[reverse-engineering] the body and when I see dorian yates, and he was here just few weeks ago
He seems as like such a polar opposite athlete to you or person to you, but yet you respect what he's done
But what he did was obviously build an aesthetic, mass
by doing physical practices
what comes to mind when you think about bodybuilding or
You know fitness models?
Yeah, I was there. You know I was there many years ago. I was doing the thing you know I was 82 kilograms
huge like maybe you know
[Seventeen] kilograms more than now
very big over 30 pounds
You know I have all the ripped skin you know in the back in the arms to to show for it
I was there I was [doing] it. I was following people like dorian in the 90s and stuff
I was doing it, but it was it was leaving me very empty eventually I realized it was motivating me
I did the whole thing but the awareness was leaking and
I loved dorian because of his mindset it can be something [completely] opposite to what you're doing
but his approach the way of doing things that I appreciate and
One last thing about it. Where is all that mess?
nowadays
Where is it? It's gone
So what is left?
Ideas awareness that you developed in that practice and maybe didn't develop much because it's bodybuilding versus
Superior practices for developing awareness and understanding and relationship with the body stuff that will last you a lifetime
actually nowadays
Dorian is doing yoga yeah, and and
Climbing up those mountains and hiking he's doing movement these days. He's doing movement practice. He's living in a smaller body
Because it's more economic and sustainable, and he's preparing himself for more awareness and is more aware, so I
Love his example and his fire and what he did in bodybuilding is amazing and I appreciate him coming on
And talking about other things
Because it might be a risk it might be
Dangerous for him. Maybe people don't want to hear it. Maybe people just want to hear about the gold old days you know and
Babbling on about that and the stories you know the Arnold stories and you know all this you know pumping iron for the million times
And you know what?
Doesn't do it for me [anymore]
And I had to stay real with that and continue to develop myself and find the same fire. I had for those things
but in a more
Deeper level sustainable level into older age and still maintain certain aesthetics
Which I believe were very important for [our] image for the way that we move they're connected with who we are
We're not just a brain. We're not just the body
We're also an image of the way that we look at cetera, right is part so aesthetics aren't
Unimportant there is a place for them. Yeah, I never said they weren't important
It's the people who want to take the black and white thing and present it as a you know gimmick
I never said that I said
Just aspiring for aesthetics is
Reverse engineering you are aspiring for those aesthetics because it hints of a movement functionality. Oh that body can
Fight can move can climb can push can pull
but actually
Not necessarily in Dorian's case. He was still one of the last you know strong body builders
You know it was dead lifting some serious weights. He was pushing around some serious iron
But even that is just a small perspective of movement
You know it might be a certain you know relaxation that allows you to throw the arm in speed and hit someone more efficiently versus
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