>>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
I’M MEGYN KELLY.
IT IS WEDNESDAY, WHICH WE CALLED
SAVWEDNESDAY BECAUSE SAVANNAH
GUTHRIE IS HERE.
WELCOME, SAVANNAH.
WELCOME, SAVANNAH. >> HI, GUYS.
>> SHE JUST MADE THE RUN ACROSS
FROM STUDIO 1A.
>> I DID.
>> I DID. IN THE RAIN, TOO.
IT’S SPITTING OUTSIDE.
>> IS IT MISERABLE OUT THERE?
>> YES.
>> YES. >> IT’S LIKE TWO WEEKS OF RAIN
HERE IN THE NORTHEAST.
>> I KNOW.
BUT WE CAN’T COMPLAIN.
WE CAN, BECAUSE WE ENJOY
COMPLAINING.
COMPLAINING. ACTUALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE
WEATHER IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
THINGS TO DO.
>> ME, TOO.
>> LET’S COMPLAIN ABOUT THE
WEATHER.
WEATHER. >> ALL SUMMER LONG, IT’S SO HOT.
IN THE WINTER, SO COLD.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. CALLED WEATHER.
CALLED WEATHER. >> WINTER.
>> WINTER. >> IT’S REALLY HOT IN THE
SOUTHWEST RIGHT NOW.
I GREW UP IN TUCSON.
GIVE A SHOUT OUT.
I FEEL LIKE --
>> IT’S DRY HEAT.
>> LIKE AN OVEN.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> IT DOES FEEL BETTER 120 IN
PHOENIX FEELS BETTER THAN THAN
IT DOES IN NEW YORK.
>> NO QUESTION.
NO QUESTION.
NO QUESTION. THOUGH THERE’S A POINT WHERE
IT’S SO HOT AND DRY YOU FEEL
LIKE A POTATO CHIP.
NO MOISTURE AT ALL.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO WE’RE GOING TO START OFF THE
DAY, YOU HEARD THE NEWS ABOUT
DEMI LOVATO.
DEMI LOVATO. OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO HER.
SHE IS WORKING THROUGH SOMETHING
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS CAN RELATE
TO, AND THAT IS ADDICTION.
DEMI IS IN THE HOSPITAL,
RECOVERING FROM AN APPARENT DRUG
OVERDOSE.
OVERDOSE. OUR OWN NATALIE MORALES HAS THE
LATEST.
LATEST. WATCH THIS.
WATCH THIS. >> DEMI LOVATO HAS LONG SPOKEN
ABOUT DRUG ADDICTION AND BIPOLAR
DISEASE, FANS THOUGHT SHE HAD
UNDER CONTROL.
UNDER CONTROL. "US WEEKLY" REPORTED FRIENDS
WITH LOVATO TREATED THE
25-YEAR-OLD POP STAR WITH
NARCAN, A DRUG USED TO REVERSE
THE EFFECTS OF OPIOID OVERDOSES.
SOURCES SAY SHE WAS STABLE,
ALERT, BREATHING WHEN FIRST
RESPONDERS TRANSPORTED HER FROM
HER HOME IN HOLLYWOOD HILLS.
A REP FOR LOVATO CONFIRMS SHE IS
AWAKE AND WITH HER FAMILY,
SAYING SOME OF THE INFORMATION
BEING REPORTED IS INCORRECT, AND
THEY RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
PRIVACY AND NOT SPECULATION.
"PEOPLE" MAGAZINE SAID THEIR
SOURCES SAY THIS WAS NOT A
SUICIDE ATTEMPT.
SUICIDE ATTEMPT. >> DEMI HAS SEVERED TIES WITH A
LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED HER
MAINTAIN HER SOBRIETY OVER THE
YEARS.
YEARS. THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE AROUND HER
WAS AFRAID OF HAPPENING.
>> LAST YEAR IN A DOCUMENTARY
CALLED "SIMPLY COMPLICATED"
LOVATO GAVE FANS A RAW LOOK AT
HER LIFE.
HER LIFE. >> I ACTUALLY HAD ANXIETY AROUND
THIS INTERVIEW.
THIS INTERVIEW. >> WHY IS THAT?
>> THE LAST TIME I DID AN
INTERVIEW THIS LONG I WAS ON
COCAINE.
COCAINE. >> IN OCTOBER 2016 AT A PANEL
EVENT, HODA ASKED LOVATO IF
SOBRIETY WAS STILL A DAILY
STRUGGLE.
STRUGGLE. >> SOME DAYS I FORGET THAT I’M
BIPOLAR.
BIPOLAR. OTHER DAYS THERE ARE TIMES WHEN
I HAVE TO BUCKLE DOWN AND CALL
PEOPLE AND CHECK IN WITH MY
THERAPIST.
THERAPIST. BUT I WOULD SAY IT GETS EASIER.
SOME DAYS I THINK ABOUT
DRINKING.
DRINKING. OTHERS DAYS I DON’T.
>> JUST LAST MONTH THE SINGER
RAISED EYEBROWS RELEASING A NEW
SINGLE CALLED "SOBER."
THE LYRICS SEEMING TO SUGGEST A
RELAPSE
RELAPSE ♪ I’M SO SORRY
I’M NOT SOBER ♪
>> THE SONG COMING MONTHS AFTER
THE SINGER PUBLICLY CELEBRATED
SIX YEARS SOBER.
THEN SUNDAY NIGHT IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, LOVATO STRUGGLES TO
REMEMBER THE LYRICS ON HER
LATEST SINGLE.
LATEST SINGLE. >> I FORGOT THE WORDS.
>> NOW FRIENDS AND FANS ARE
PRAYING FOR LOVATO.
THE WELL WISHES TRENDING ON
TWITTER ALL HOPING THIS TRAGIC
TURN OF EVENTS IS JUST A SMALL
DETOUR ON THE LONG ROAD TO
RECOVERY.
RECOVERY. >> NATALIE, THANK YOU.
SO MANY FAMILIES DEAL WITH THIS.
>> OF COURSE.
>> THEY SAY THE STATS WERE IN
THE UNITED STATES ALONE IN 2016,
OPIOIDS KILLED 42,000 PEOPLE IN
THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN ANY
PREVIOUS YEAR.
PREVIOUS YEAR. I THINK SO MANY FAMILIES DEALING
WITH ADDICTION THINK THEY ARE
THE ONLY ONES.
IT GETS SO STIGMATIZED.
>> THAT’S JUST OPIOIDS.
IF YOU WANT TO BRANCH OUT, TALK
ABOUT ALCOHOLISM.
ABOUT ALCOHOLISM. SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE STRUGGLED,
GROWN UP WITH IT, HAD IT IN
THEIR FAMILIES, STRUGGLING WITH
IT.
IT. I THINK ALSO WITH DEMI LOVATO,
WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT SOBRIETY IS
A JOURNEY.
A JOURNEY. SHE’S A YOUNG WOMAN.
SHE GOT SOBER WHEN SHE WAS A
TEENAGER.
TEENAGER. SHE’S IN HER 20s.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP AT IT.
I HOPE SHE FEELS ALL THE LOVE
THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SENDING
TOWARD HER.
TOWARD HER. EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND THE
STRUGGLE.
STRUGGLE. >> IT’S VERY RARE --
>> EVERYONE KNOWS HOW HARD IT
IS.
IS. >> IT’S VERY RARE FOR SOMEONE
GETTING SOBER FROM DRUGS AND
ALCOHOL, TO GET SOBER AND NEVER
RELAPSE.
RELAPSE. THE MAJORITY RELAPSE.
SHE PUTS SUCH PRESSURE ON
HERSELF.
HERSELF. YOU READY HER STATEMENTS, IF I
RELAPSE, I’LL BE LETTING MY FANS
DOWN AND SENDING THE MESSAGE TO
OTHERS, IT’S OKAY TO RELAPSE.
I THINK THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
IT’S PART OF THE PROCESS.
IT’S NOT THAT YOU CELEBRATE IT.
YOU HOPE IT DOESN’T HAPPEN BUT
THERE’S NO SHAME.
THERE’S ONLY WELL WISHES.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> I ALSO THINK IT SPEAKS
SOMEWHAT TO THE PRESSURES OF
FAME AND DIFFICULTIES OF MENTAL
ILLNESS.
ILLNESS. SHE TALKED ABOUT HER BIPOLAR
DISORDER AND EATING DISORDER,
WHICH SHE SAYS IS THE HARDEST
THING SHE’S DEALING WITH.
THAT’S CONSTANT.
THAT’S CONSTANT. YOU CAN GET PAST THE URGE TO
DRINK BUT FOOD IS WITH YOU EVERY
DAY.
DAY. IT’S WITH YOU EVERY DAY.
SHE’S BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THAT
EVEN ARIANA GRANDE.
SOMEONE SAID WHY AREN’T YOU
PROMOTING YOUR RECORDS?
IT DESTROYED ME.
I DON’T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT
THOSE YEARS OF MY LIFE.
I’M DOING BETTER NOW CAREERWISE
AND HEALTHWISE.
AND HEALTHWISE. SO MUCH STRUT ANYCRUTINY.
>> SO MANY PEOPLE THINK WOULDN’T
YOU WANT TO BE A POP STAR, SO
GREAT, HAIR AND MAKEUP AND
CLOTHES AND MONEY.
YES, I THINK THAT ALL SOUNDS
PRETTY GOOD BUT THERE IS ANOTHER
SIDE TO IT.
HAVING LOVE AND COMPASSION FOR
PEOPLE HAD ARE PUBLIC FIGURES,
IT’S JUST THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
THEY ARE HUMAN, YOU KNOW.
I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
CELEBRITIES, OR PEOPLE YOU SEE
IN A MAGAZINE, WE’RE ALL SO
DISTANT FROM THEM BUT THINK THEY
CAN’T BE REAL.
THEY ARE.
THEY ARE. THEY HAVE THIS STRUGGLES.
YOU KNOW, IN A SITUATION LIKE
THIS FOR BOTH OF THOSE YOUNG
WOMEN, THEY ARE FACING A TON OF
PRESSURE AT REALLY YOUNG AGES.
CAN YOU IMAGINE NF NO.
HONESTLY, IT’S LIKE YOU KNOW A
LOT OF FAMOUS PEOPLE, I KNOW A
LOT OF FAMOUS PEOPLE.
FAMOUS PEOPLE ARE LIKE US.
THEY ARE EXACTLY LIKE WE ARE BUT
WE KNOW THEM.
WE KNOW THEIR NAME, THEIR FACE.
THEY ARE EXACTLY LIKE YOU ARE.
THEY HAVE PROBLEMS, MONEY, BUT
STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME THINGS
YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE
STRUGGLING.
STRUGGLING. I WANT TO REMIND YOU, IF YOU OR
SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS STRUGGLING
WITH ADDICTION, CALL
1-800-622-HELP OR 4357.
GOT TO TURN THE PAGE TO BETTER
NEWS.
NEWS. THAT IS SOME LUCKY WINNER IN SAN
JOSE, CALIFORNIA, IS NOW 100
MILLIONAIRE.
MILLIONAIRE. HUNDREDS.
HUNDREDS. >> WHAT’S THE JACKPOT?
>> THE JACKPOT, MEGA MILLION
JACKPOT WAS $522 MILLION.
IF YOU OPT FOR ONE-TIME PAYOUT
YOU GET $308 MILLION.
ONLY ONE PERSON WON IT.
>> SO IT WAS SOLD BY ERNIE’S
LIQUORS IN SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA.
>> ERNIE.
>> ERNIE. >> MADE ME LAUGH BECAUSE WE HAD
A LIVE SHOT OF ERNIE’S LIQUORS
ON THE SHOW.
IT’S ALL DARK, LIKE 4:00 A.M.
HOPING SOMEBODY COMES IN, HERE’S
MY TICKET.
MY TICKET. >> ANYWAY.
>> ANYWAY. >> ERNIE’S LIQUORS, THE STORE
THAT SELLS IT, THEY GET SOME
KIND OF PRIZE, TOO.
THEY GET A CUT OF MONEY.
>> NOW YOU’VE GOT TO THINK, WHO
IS IT.
IS IT. WHO IS SITTING IN THEIR HOUSE
AROUND SAN JOSE GOING OH, MY
GOD.
GOD. >> WHAT DO YOU DO?
DO YOU TELL ANYONE?
>> THEY SAY DON’T.
>> I LOSE MY PHONE 14 TIMES A
DAY.
DAY. I’D BE LIKE TAKE IT FROM ME.
>> LIKE THE GOLDEN TICKET IN
WONKA.
WONKA. >> THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL
THEY DO?
THEY DO? WOULD YOU QUIT YOUR JOB?
>> WOULD YOU QUIT YOUR JOB?
>> NO, NOT RIGHT AWAY.
I WOULD COME THE NEXT DAY TO
SAY, I WON THE LOTTERY.
NO, BUT I WOULD WORK FOR A
WHILE, I THINK.
CAN YOU IMAGINE JUST TO NOT HAVE
THOSE FINANCIAL WORRIES.
YOU WOULD JUST HAVE THAT REMOVED
FROM YOU?
FROM YOU? >> JUST TO HAVE IT ALL.
SPEAKING OF WORK AND WORRY, YOU
AND I MADE A BET LAST WEEK AT
WORK ABOUT WHO HAD THE MOST
HIDEOUS CHILDHOOD PHOTOS.
DO YOU REMEMBER THIS?
>> YES.
>> YES. >> WE THREW DOWN --
>> WE DID.
>> WE WERE TALKING BOUGHT
FASHION AND QUESTIONABLE FASHION
HISTORY.
HISTORY. NOW WE HAVE EACH SUBMITTED OUR
ENTRIES.
ENTRIES. >> I WANT TO SAY MEGYN AND I
HAVE THIS FREAKISH SIMILARITY.
WE’VE HAD THE SAME AGE.
WE’VE HAD MANY OF THE SAME LIFE
EXPERIENCES.
EXPERIENCES. WE BOTH LOST OUR FATHERS AS
TEENAGERS, 16 YEARS OLD.
WE BOTH WENT TO LAW SCHOOL.
>> SUPREME COURT TOGETHER.
>> WHEN I READ YOUR BOOK, I WAS
LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, THIS WAS
CRAZY.
CRAZY. NOW WE BOTH THINK WE WERE
UNPLEASANT LOOKING CHILDREN.
>> WE WERE.
>> THE SIMILARITIES GO ON.
SHOULD WE DO A COMPETITION?
>> WITH VERY LITTLE EFFORT MADE
BY MY MOTHER.
I NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
A SUBMIT SCREEN.
>> THAT’S MINE.
YEAH.
YEAH. >> ZOOM IN ON IT.
I THINK THIS IS CUTE.
THE STYLING IS QUESTIONABLE BUT
LOOK AT YOUR FACE.
YOU’RE ADORABLE.
YOU’RE ADORABLE. >> THERE’S A FLOWER POT ON MY
HEAD.
HEAD. NOT TO MENTION MY TEETH.
THERE WAS LIKE THE GRAND CANYON
BETWEEN THOSE TWO FRONT THINGS
UNTIL AN ORAL SURGEON GOT
INVOLVED.
INVOLVED. >> IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT,
STYLING QUESTIONABLE, FLOWER
POT, I’LL GIVE IT TO YOU BUT
YOU’RE CUTE.
YOU’RE CUTE. HAVE YOU A CUTE FACE.
>> WHAT HAVE YOU GOT, SISTER?
WHAT HAVE YOU GOT?
THAT’S ONLY ABOUT THE
EXPRESSION.
EXPRESSION. IT’S A LITTLE MUG SHOTY BUT THE
REST IS BEAUTIFUL.
>> MY FACE.
LOOK AT MY HAIR.
I LOOK LIKE A BOY.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT’S MEGYN’S SHOW
BUT I HAVE THE WORST PICTURE,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> NO.
>> NO. >> I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
LOOK AT THAT ONE.
LOOK AT THAT ONE.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE A MUG SHOT FOR
LIKE SHOPLIFTING WHEN I WAS 13
OR SOMETHING.
OR SOMETHING. >> WHICH I ALSO DID.
>> I DID, TOO.
SO WEIRD.
SO WEIRD. >> A LENGTHY CRIMINAL HISTORY WE
CAN DIVULGE.
CAN DIVULGE. >> IT’S BEEN EXPUNGED.