TELLING "THE WASHINGTON
EXAMINER" THE DECISION TO
INVESTIGATE MCALEENAN IS, QUOTE,
VERY DISTURBING.
>>> WELL, IT WAS AN INTENSE DAY,
TO SAY THE LEAST, ON CAPITOL
HILL TODAY AS FORMER ACTING
I.C.E. DIRECTOR TOM HOMAN
DELIVERED AN IMPASSIONED DEFENSE
OF BORDER PATROL AGENTS, RIPPING
INTO THE INACTION OF
CONGRESSIONAL LAWMAKERS.
LISTEN TO THIS EXCHANGE WITH
ILLINOIS DEMOCRAT JESUS GARCIA.
>> MR. HOMAN, I'M A FATHER.
DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN?
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY ALLOW THIS
TO HAPPEN UNDER YOUR WATCH?
DO YOU NOT CARE?
IS IT BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN
DON'T LOOK LIKE CHILDREN THAT
ARE AROUND YOU?
IF I DON'T GET IT.
HAVE YOU EVER HELD A DECEASED
CHILD IN YOUR ARMS?
>> FIRST OF ALL, YOUR COMMENTS
ARE DISGUSTING.
I'VE SERVED --
>> I FIND YOUR COMMENTS --
>> MY COUNTRY 34 YEARS.
I'VE SERVED MY COUNTRY FOR 34
YEARS AND, YEAH, I HELD A
5-YEAR-OLD BOY IN MY ARMS IN THE
BACK OF THAT TRACTOR-TRAILER.
I KNELT DOWN BESIDE HIM AND SAID
A PRAYER FOR HIM BECAUSE I KNEW
WHAT HIS LAST 30 MINUTES OF LIFE
WERE LIKE, AND I HAD A
5-YEAR-OLD SON AT THE TIME.
MY MISSION IS TO SAVE LIVES.
SO FOR YOU TO SIT THERE AND
INSULT MY INTEGRITY AND MY LOVE
FOR MY COUNTRY AND FOR CHILDREN,
THAT'S WHY THIS WHOLE THING
NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
AND YOU'RE THE MEMBER -- THE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
ING.
>> FIX IT.
>> WE AGREE ON.
THAT BUT I DISAGREE --
>> THE ORDER.
ORDER.
[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]
>> GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
GREGG: JOINING ME NOW IS THAT
GENTLEMAN, TOM HOMAN, FORMER
ACTING DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION
AND CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT.
HE'S ALSO A FOX BUSINESS
CONTRIBUTOR.
DIRECTOR HOMAN, THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US.
IT WAS QUITE A DAY TODAY.
THE TREATMENT OF YOU WAS NOTHING
SHORT OF APPALLING, IN
PARTICULAR JESUS GARCIA WHO
ACCUSED YOU OF BEING RACIST,
WHICH IS WHAT UNINFORMED PEOPLE
DO WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A GOOD
ARGUMENT, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT
REPRESENTATIVE GARCIA IS THE
RACIST HERE, AND YOU CLEARLY
SAID YOU WERE DISGUSTED BY IT.
HOW MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED
BY BORDER PATROL AGENTS, SIR?
>> JUST THIS PAST YEAR THEY
SAVED OVER 4,000 LIVES, BUT NO
ONE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT
TODAY.
AND, YES, I WAS INSULTED BY HIM
AND MANY OTHERS.
REPRESENTATIVE GERALD CONNOLLY
FROM VIRGINIA.
YOU KNOW, HE THREW OUT DIRT AND
WOULDN'T LET ME RESPOND.
IT WAS ABOUT POLITICAL THEATER.
HE RAN OUT OF THERE LIKE A
LITTLE GIRL.
HE'S A COWARD.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR MY
RESPONSE.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HEAR THE
TRUTH.
I SAID SEVERAL TIMES IN THIS
HEARING THIS IS ABOUT
TRANSPARENCY, BUT YOU WON'T MET
ME RESPOND TO WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING.
IF THIS IS THE FOCUS OF
CONGRESS, TO PUSH A FALSE
NARRATIVE AND NOT LET SOMEONE
LIKE ME WHO SPENT 34 YEARS ON
THAT BORDER SPEAK TO ISSUE, THAT
TELLS YOU WHAT THIS IS ALL
ABOUT.
THIS IS ABOUT RESISTING THIS
PRESIDENT, ABOUT OPEN BORDERS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE
TRUTH.
GREG GREG WELL, AND I COMMEND
YOU FOR SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD
BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
INDEED, THEY SHOULD.
YOU KNOW, A DIRECTOR FOR THE
LONG TIME, MOSTLY DEMOCRATS WERE
SAYING, OH, THERE'S NO PROBLEM
AT THE BORDER, THERE'S NO CRISIS
AT THE BORDER, IT'S ALL A
MANUFACTURED CRISIS.
WELL, NOW THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR
TUNE, HAVEN'T THEY?
>> ABSOLUTELY, AND THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE APPALLING
CONDITIONS IN DETENTION.
AND NOW IT'S CLEAR TO THEM.
I SAID THAT'S BECAUSE YOU
FAILED.
THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
SECURITY ALONG WITH THE HEAD OF
BORDER PATROL HAS BEEN ASKING
FOR MONTHS FOR SUPPLEMENTAL
FUNDING TO MOVE PEOPLE, WOMEN
AND CHILDREN -- FACILITIES
AREN'T BUILT FOR THEM -- THEY'VE
BEEN BEGGING THEM FOR MONEY, BUT
THEY JUST KEPT DENYING AND
DENYING AND DENYING THEM.
EVEN AFTER THEY FINALLY DID
APPROVE THE FUNDING, YOU'VE GOT
ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ THAT
DIDN'T SUPPORT THE FUNDING TO
MAKE THE CONDITIONS BETTER.
AND SHE'S STILL TALKING ABOUT
DETENTION CONDITIONS ON THE
SOUTHWEST BORDER.
AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OF
THIS.
THERE WASN'T CONDITIONS ON THE
SOUTHWEST BORDER THAT WOULD BE
UNWELCOMING TO THESE WOMEN AND
CHILDREN IF THEY WOULD HAVE DONE
THEIR JOBS AND CLOSING LOOPHOLES
WE'VE ASKED THEM TO CLOSE FOR
TWO YEARS.
GREGG: YEAH.
YOU MENTIONED ALEXANDRIA
OCASIO-CORTEZED TODAY WHO
DEMANDED THAT SHE BE SWORN IN TO
TESTIFY, WHICH SEEMED TO CONFUSE
THE CHAIRMAN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S NOT NORMALLY WHAT HAPPENS
SINCE YOU'RE A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS.
I WANT TO PLAY A CLIP AND THEN
GET YOUR REACTION.
HERE IT IS.
>> IF I GET ARRESTED FOR DUI AND
I HAVE A YOUNG CHILD IN THE CAR,
I'M GOING TO BE SEPARATED.
I WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN NEW
YORK, AND I ARRESTED A FATHER
FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE --
>> MR. HOMAN, WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT, LEGAL A ASIGH LEES ARE
NOT CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME.
>> WHEN YOU'RE IN THE COUNTRY
ILLEGALLY, IT'S VIOLATION OF
UNITED STATES CODE --
>> SEEKING A ASYLUM IS LEGAL.
>> YOU WANT TO SEEK ASYLUM, GO
THROUGH THE PORT OF ENTRY AND DO
IT THE LEGAL WAY.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
UNITED STATES HAS MADE THAT
CLEAR.
>> OKAY.
GREGG: UNLAWFUL PRESENCE IN THE
UNITED STATES IS NOT A CRIME,
BUT YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR, THAT
COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES
ILLEGALLY IS A CRIME.
SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER IS A
CRIME.
SO AOC WAS ENGAGING IN HER
TYPICALLY INANE COMMENTS --
[LAUGHTER]
AND, YOU KNOW, AND SHE'S THE ONE
WHO CONTINUES TO DECRY
CONDITIONS AT THE BORDER, AND
YET SHE VOTED HELL NO WHEN IT
CAME TIME FOR A $4.5, 4.6
BILLION IN FUNDING TO RELIEVE
THE CONDITIONS AT THE BORDER.
SHE'S NOTHING BUT A HYPOCRITE,
CORRECT?
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, LOOK, EVERY TIME SHE OPENS
HER MOUTH, SHE'S WRONG.
I'VE NEVER HEARD HER SPEAK ONE
TIME ON IMMIGRATION AND SHE BE
ACCURATE.
I'M A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER,
BUT IT'S ASTOUNDING THAT A
MEMBER OF CONGRESS, A LEGISLATOR
DOES NOT REALIZE ENTERING THIS
COUNTRY IS A CRIME.
SHE OUGHT TO DO HER HOMEWORK
BEFORE SHE STARTS SAYING THINGS
THAT AREN'T TRUE.
SHE'S THE WORST POLITICIAN IN
THAT COMMITTEE, AND, YOU KNOW,
SHE DOESN'T KNOW FACT FROM
FICTION, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S
BEEN A CONGRESSMAN FOR SIX
MONTHS.
APPARENTLY, SHE'S AN EXPERT AT
EVERYTHING, BUT SHE'S AN EXPERT
AT NOTHING.
GREGG: YEAH.
SHE WAS A BARTENDER LESS THAN A
YEAR AGO.
NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST
PEOPLE --
[LAUGHTER]
BARTENDERS AND WAITRESSES, BUT
IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU AN EXPERT ON
EVERYTHING.
MOST FRESHMEN MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS KNOW TO KEEP THEIR
MOUTH SHUT, TO LEARN, TO
OBSERVE, TO LISTEN, BUT NO,
SHE'S AN EXPERT ON EVERYTHING.
WANT TO GO TO A MOMENT NOW WHERE
YOU WERE SHOWING PHOTOGRAPHS OF
CHILDREN AND ELDERLY PEOPLE WHO
HAD BEEN VICTIMIZED VIOLENTLY BY
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
TALKTOUS ABOUT THAT.
TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
>> THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THEY
TALKED ABOUT FAMILY SEPARATIONS
DURING THE ZERO TOLERANCE THING
AND, OF COURSE, IT'S SAD WHEN A
CHILD'S SEPARATED FROM A PARENT.
BUT THE PARENT'S BEING
PROSECUTED, AND THAT HAPPENS TO
AMERICAN FAMILIES EVERY DAY.
AND THE SEPARATIONS, EVEN THOUGH
UNFORTUNATE, IT'S A NECESSARY
PART OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM.
IF YOU AND I GOT ARRESTED FOR
DUI AND WE HAD A CHILD IN THE
CAR, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL,
AND THAT CHILD'S GOING TO GO TO
CPS.
IS SO I BROUGHT MY OWN PICTURES
OF SEPARATION.
THESE WERE CHILDREN THAT WERE
KILLED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS, SOME
RELEASED IN SANCTUARY CITIES AND
BECAUSE OF THE OPEN BORDERS AND
ALL THIS TALK DEMOCRATS HAVE,
TRIED TO SHOW A COUPLE OF
EXAMPLES.
ONE WAS A FIVE-MONTH-OLD BABY
THAT WAS RAPED, SEXUALLY
PENETRATED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN
AND MURDERED.
A 5-YEAR-OLD GIRL THAT WAS RAPED
AND MURDERED, A 93-YEAR-OLD LADY
THAT WAS RAPED MULTIPLE TIMES
AND MURDERED.
I AGREE, CHILD SEPARATIONS ARE
SAD, BUT THAT'S A TEMPORARY
SEPARATION BECAUSE THE PARENT'S
BEING PROSECUTED.
HERE'S SOME SEPARATIONS THAT ARE
FOREVER.
THESE PARENTS WILL NEVER SEE
THESE CHILDREN AGAIN, AND THEY
DIED A HORRIFIC DEATH.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SHIFT GEARS
FOR, YOU KNOW, THOSE
SEPARATIONS, I GET IT.
BUT HOW ABOUT SHEDDING SOME
TEARS FOR U.S. CITIZENS THAT
HAVE BEEN MURDERED, CHILDREN
THAT HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE
ILLEGAL ALIENS?
I'VE MET WITH THESE ANGEL MOMS
AND DADS, EVERY STORY'S TRAGIC.
BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THAT.
THEY WANT TO KEEP PUSHING THEIR
FALSE NARRATIVE TO AMERICAN
PEOPLE, AND I WASN'T GOING TO
ALLOW IT TODAY.
I WASN'T GOING TO ALLOW IT.
GREGG: AND REPRESENTATIVES TALIB
AND PRESLEY FINISH TALIB WAS IN
TEARS TODAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
USING THE TERM ALL LEGAL
IMMIGRANT IS DEROGATORY AND
DEMEANING, AND SHE SEEMED TO BE
BLAMING YOU AND OTHERS, AND YET
SHE -- SHE'S SO DUMB SHE DOESN'T
REALIZE IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE LAW
THAT CONGRESS WROTE, ILLEGAL
ALIEN.
AND YOU CITED THE STATUTE, AND
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AS WELL.
SHE HAD TO LOOK THEM UP.
SHE WANTS TO CHANGE THAT
LANGUAGE, SHE OUGHT TO CHANGE IT
HERSELF.
SHE'S A MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
CONGRESS CREATED THAT LAW WITH
THAT LANGUAGE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S ANOTHER CONGRESSMAN WHO
DOESN'T KNOW THE LAW.
I MEAN, ILLEGAL ALIEN IS CLEARLY
SPELLED OUT NOT ONLY IN TITLE
VIII OF THE UNITED STATES CODE,
THE IMMIGRATION NATIONALITY ACT
WHICH, I CAN SAY, WAS ENACTED BY
CONGRESS WHO SHE'S A PART OF.
GREGG: RIGHT.
>> DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
BEFORE YOU GET OUT THERE AND
ATTACK THIS ADMINISTRATION, THE
MEN AND WOMEN OF I.C.E. AND THE
BORDER PATROL, DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
AT LEAST DO THAT SO YOU CAN BE
ACCURATE AND TRUTH THEFUL TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
GREGG: DON'T YOU KNOW THE MOD