Speaker 1: Yesterday, we talked on the podcast
about how at this early stage, I mean, listen, it's not even an early stage.
We're not even at the 2024 primary season. We're not even beyond the 2022 primaries.
There have been some Republicans that are already endorsing Donald Trump, Jim Jordan, for example.
We have also seen some Republicans declare they will not support Donald Trump even if he does run.
This is starting to get even weirder because Donald Trump has now signaled that he is running
in 2024. In a bizarre truth social post in which he referred to himself as the future president of
the United States seems very clearly to be saying, I'm running. Let's review this bizarre post. Trump
writing quote Why would a future president of the United States want to have candid and important
conversations with his White House counsel if he thought there was even a small chance that this
person, essentially acting as a lawyer for the country, may someday be brought before a partizan
and openly hostile committee in Congress, or even a fair and reasonable committee to reveal the
inner secrets of foreign policy or other important matters so bad for the U.S.A.. Trump really a
legend in his own mind. So what is he talking about? I know you might see this and say that's
like a verbal inkblot that what is that? Trump is referring to his former White House counsel, Pat
Cipollone, which I last week was pronouncing. Chip Maloney People very politely corrected me and they
said it is actually only pronounced Cipollone. Speaker 2: No more drop.
Speaker 1: Exactly. We all make it. We all make mistakes. So Trump here is saying, listen,
this was the lawyer for the country. But that is a fundamental misunderstanding. The White House
counsel is the president's lawyer. Now, in an ideal world, the president's interests are aligned
with the country's interests. In particular, when Donald Trump was president. The country's
interests and Trump interests were completely at odds. They were not in any way aligned. And so the
idea that Pat Cipollone, by representing President Trump is representing the interests of the country
is nonsense. Now, the other thing is that he wasn't having the conversation. So he says,
as a me, as a future president, I'm disincentivized from talking to my lawyer if
I think my lawyer might someday be dragged before a committee. Trump's conversations with Cipollone
when Trump was president were not conversations as a future president. If that was the case,
you might be able to make a stronger argument that they are protected by attorney client privilege.
CIPOLLONE He can't be forced to testify. We wouldn't even be having this discussion. Trump
was the president. Cipollone represented him. They were actively engaged in inciting a riot, trying
to overturn an election. Trump lost all these different things. And of course, Cipollone is
testament testimony would be eminently reasonable and relevant and it's supposedly going to be
happening behind closed doors. Cipollone today scheduled to be speaking to the House committee.
Whether it happens, we will we will figure that out. Now, for one moment, I thought, did Trump
mean as a future prisoner rather than as a future president? That's wishful thinking. I don't expect
that to happen now, a few hours later, just to kind of close the circle on this insanity, Trump
added some other strange comments in subsequent posts, also related to the investigations into
him writing quote Both of my phone calls to Georgia were perfect. Now, of course,
those were the calls where Trump asked for votes. Speaker 3: I need 11,000 votes. Give me a.
Speaker 2: Break. Speaker 1: Trump going on and saying I had an
absolute right to make them. And in fact, the story on the one call was given a retraction or
apology by The Washington Post because they were given terribly false information about it. Now,
that's not true. And when they heard the actual call, they realized their story was wrong.
Thank you to The Washington Post. I as does anyone else just look at the Democrats
have the absolute right to challenge the results of an election. This one corrupt, rigged and
stolen. Continuing saying, quote, I did nothing wrong in Georgia, but others did. They cheated in
the 2020 presidential election and those are the ones that should be investigated and prosecuted.
Letter to follow. And I have not seen the letter that supposedly follows. This is a desperate,
unhinged man clawing any relevance that he can obtain. And of course, it's always the opposite.
For six months, he said, the Democrats are going to try to steal the election.
He tried to steal the election. For months, he said, the Democrats are going to mess with these
ballots, dumps of ballots and mail in ballots. And ultimately, it was Trump and his followers
and his lawyers going around the country making bogus claims about those very mail in ballots.
The allegations are ultimately confessions with these guys. We've got to be ready for
2022 and we've got to be ready for 2024. Will we be ready? That's the question. Let me know
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