- I guess the Barry,
your gays trope started a long time ago.
- Oh, it's aggressive.
- You stormed a wedding
in a cheerleading outfit and now you're afraid?
- She's confused.
We're gonna watch some kissing clips.
- Yeah. And you're gonna get to figure
out what we think, I guess, because we are the experts.
- I hope to see cringey kisses and surprise kisses.
- Sloppy,
- sloppy kisses.
- You're sloppy
- You give sloppy kisses.
- This was everyone's like introduction to queer.
- This was not my introduction, but that's okay.
- Very nineties there
- Look at her hair.
- Yep
- One, two, three, four.
- Confessing Love
- Their like cute bouncy cheerleader and
- The edgy girl.
- It's cute.
- Face is like, I'm gonna
- Big gestures.
- They're at this camp. I think conversion camp.
- Just talking about the eyebrow friend.
you go after her
- In that dress, kiss?
- Ow.
- Ow they went right in for it!
- Okay.
- It's giving conservative.
- Yeah. Reluctant.
- It's giving like
- But they're in love.
- Hopefully they are. It felt forced
- Here. I am trying to be positive.
It felt a little restraint.
- That's one of the first ones
I think we got to see on screen.
- I'm just gonna run across this field.
She's probably panting.
She just jumped in the back of this truck. It's like ga!
- The thing about this is like the whole movie.
There is this been this buildup right?
Where like she's coming to terms with her queerness
and then the other character,
- yeah which is beautiful. It's wonderful.
- Totally. No mom, I'm a homosexual is like, oh my God.
- Because it's about her fighting through everything.
- Yeah. I don't know, maybe people think
it's easier to come out today, but
- I do remember thinking I would never have
to get to do that. No way, ever.
- But today could you see yourself?
- Yeah. For sure.
I'll do a grand gesture for you, baby.
- Nothing bad happened so just please. Don't be mad at me.
- I'm sorry.
I Hate everyone else in the world but you.
- Yes, that's a vibe.
- A little awkward.
- Yeah.
- That's okay.
- That's real good.
- They didn't know if it was okay. Come back.
- Right! And then the emotional crash, even,
even Hunter Shafer is just like, utter look of disbelief
- Right away. I was like, wow. The show is super heavy.
And I don't know if I have capacity over this show,
but by that point I was already hooked.
- That build and that
just like their foreheads touching each other
and just looking at each other
that closely and just breathing in the other human.
Like that is so beautiful. That is an authentic kiss.
- Jules is trans.
And so that is huge, huge, huge for queer community.
- And what you don't know about her
is that up until this point she was straight
- That yep. All of it makes you more sense now.
Like the quick like dive in like,
oh I'm just gonna jump in and do this
and then pulling back so quickly and be like, I am so sorry.
- Did that just happen? Yeah.
- Yeah. Oh
- Zendaya plays this very like, she's not fem.
she's not, but she's just her and having like Jules
as a character who can like help her
become more of her is, is so amazing for the queers now
- Brokeback Mountain.
- It's not a brother hug anymore.
Oh, that hesitancy. That's real.
- That's so real.
- They got us.
Ow, it's aggressive.
- It's passionate.
- Okay.
- See the intensity here makes sense.
- Yes
- They've already built up to this.
- Yes
- But I saw anger.
- Oh wow.
For sure. Lot of, wow. Being caught. Okay.
- Yeah. They really committed to being super passionate
but also having to hide it.
- I believe that there was truly passion behind that kiss.
- The pent up tension.
- Not just that but their happy to see each other
to the like oh I can't , is it safe to, that is so real.
- The kiss itself looks reluctant because I know
that the public lives of these two actors are straight.
And so they may not be able to tap
into the actual lived experience
of the complexive queerness.
And I see this in this clip of this kissing, it looks rough
- But that's the point, right?
They live a hetero life.
- They live that life. But that doesn't mean they are
- But they desire that type of love.
And so there's a disconnect in terms of
the at attainability of a love and the permission
that they even are allowed to give themselves.
- He's the oldie.
- I see a superhero.
- Maybe he was a pilot and that's his flight suit.
- Dave. Dave, you're not badly hurt. I'll get a doctor.
- Never let go Jack.
- Yeah. Right.
- So it's like a makeup kiss and a dying kiss all in one
- One, one kissed the other.
- And the other one was kind of like,
I love you.
- But I'm dying. You kiss me.
- He's rubbing his head though.
- Not like when you rub my head.
- As your friendship.
- No they're just really close
- Roommates.
- Yeah.
- As your friendship!
- And they were roommates.
- Oh my God.
- Okay.
- How do you feel about?
- I think the question at hand is
- Agreed, okay.
Kiss aside the way they were cradling one another.
- Yeah.
- Was so tender
- Yeah, because bros caress.
- Fondly run my fingers through your hair.
- I felt the whole scene was kind of intimate.
And I felt, I don't know,
I was having emotional response more than I was
to the other clips that I've seen with the kiss.
And it's weird. I can't explain.
Were you having emotional response too?
- They were buried together
but they were just besties really?
- Really, really close. Yeah. Yeah. Besties.
- The language that they're using
they're referring to each other as friendship, right?
And so obviously there's some undercover,
you know tones there
- Another trauma kiss.
- I don't understand why that kiss
would be written in there. If it wasn't a queer storyline.
- I don't know.
I don't know what you want to do with this.
And I don't know how you feel about me, but
- Good music. That's close
- Vulnerability.
- There's that look?
- Oh, the licking the lips
- Period.
- Dance with him first.
- The forehead bump
- Yes
- See its the embrace. And there's other people around
and the other ones too.
- I hated that you had a boyfriend.
- The neck grab.
- They excite people, I don't even know if they're friends
but they're excited for this couple to be kissing.
- Oh, look at how happy they're
- It's just normal.
- They're so excited. Oh look.
- Yeah.
- Cute.
- Wow.
- That was super cute.
- The big difference between this and all the other clips is
that these two are all smiles
- The little hysterical, laughing after your first kiss.
cause you're just like so giddy.
Yeah. That's so real in here. It's cute.
- So you think is totally accurately portrayed.
- Oh Yeah. For sure
- This feels real. - This is totally a gay kiss.
- Something that you would've experienced.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- The mutual attraction was verbalized,
which makes it that much more powerful.
I think that conversation is super important to put
on the front end and be like,
hey let's not just go off of a feeling
I need to hear you say that this is what you want.
- It's not about anyone else around.
And that's what I think is lacking in other kisses.
- I don't know if either of these characters are queer
in real life, but they should be
- They are.
- They are queer, yes!
- We loves to see it.
- Oh beautiful.
I think this film more accurately represents a
gay couple kissing.
It provides context.
There's affirmation validation, but the self, right?
For me, it's really about how they feel in that context.
They are showing people that it's okay.
And they are normalizing this for other people as well.
Right? Which is
I feel like something that I miss from the other clips
- This adorable kiss was from my fake boyfriend.
And you can watch it now.
There you go.
- Yeah. Yum.
So good!
- Do you think that would sell?
I don't think people would believe that
- No. This would sell.
- Yeah.