it's so good to see you guys i don't
want to set the bar too high but the
last time i caught up with zendaya yet
another meme was born yet another
brilliance
yeah mark ruffalo appreciated it so
that's the badge of honor it's a great
meme it works for so many things what a
good moment
okay so this is obviously the most
secretive most anticipated film of the
year but you guys are no stranger to
this kind of thing take me back in the
last couple spider-man films or even
through the avengers films what's like
the one
secret that was a struggle for you guys
to keep under wraps was it going all the
way back for you zendaya saying that you
know you were in fact playing mj was
spidey dying was there something in
particular
that was an annoying one for sure
because unless you know why my character
is mj there's really no huge reason for
me to be in the movie right and i was
doing a lot of things
and i was doing a lot of press for it
which is weird they cast in there to
play michelle
did nobody tell them about mj oh random
things mysterious classmates yeah
so going on the oppressor was like how
was that like i don't know i wasn't
there very long
and who do you play michelle
i was like yep it was fun
i just came along you did well though
i think for me one of the hardest things
to keep a secret was the fact that
jake's character was bad yeah but the
only reason it was difficult was because
we were just bold face lines yeah
you weren't
telling people like he's not a villain
he's the hero of the story he's stepping
up it's a new take on the character yeah
i like so much that i believe that jake
was as a hero and i saw the film i was
like what is it
yeah we were talking about it that jake
obviously has a reputation for being
somewhat of a method actor or has been
in the past so when we were on set of
spider-man i got really worried that he
was just being my friend because he's a
method actor
and then at some point he was going to
switch and like be a total dick
right as soon as the film's over the
eyes go dead he just walks away
with him yesterday
he
he's just committed to the dvd blu-ray
release now he's just still in character
it's still going
can you tell when each other is annoyed
is there a tell yes
what is it what do you see in each
other's eyes
[Laughter]
i'm gonna try to stir the pot a little
bit i know there at least two of you are
huge harry potter fans who's the biggest
harry potter fan on that couch right now
probably oh yeah probably for you for
sure super duper die hard for sure but i
feel like yeah
i love harry potter we all love harry
potter i think it's a genius yeah why
would i do this
it's an umbrella
we are all under that but i think you
definitely have the most knowledge
yeah but saying that i went to a pub
quiz the other day to do a harry potter
pub quiz and we all like there was like
eight of us when we had it in the diary
we were all super excited and it was the
most difficult quiz i've ever done i
feel like they'll ask questions more
from the books too not just from the
movies that's the thing like i read the
books but one of the questions was like
who was the referee in the 1964
quidditch
[Laughter]
and you call yourself a fan you don't
know that what
embarrassing i was very embarrassed my
girlfriend likes to play like the theme
song while she's like cleaning up
flying around
[Laughter]
tom and zenday you've spent a fair
amount of these films uh swinging around
um on webs tom you have to look cool
zendaya you are free to look terrified
is it harder to play it cool or is it
harder to summon your inner terror
contrary to my laughing face
when i am frightened i don't really
react okay i laugh big this we know
um thanks to the internet that's a good
one uh it's a good way to explain it
but when it comes to being frightened
i'm not like uh i don't go ah you know i
don't really have a reaction like that
right you're more of a like
pretty i'm like oh you got me you know
whatever and then when dealing with
things like per se jumping off of a high
thing with spider-man
my natural thing is just like
let it take me
but uh you see
mj is not a huge fan of the swinging
so i then have to like make myself like
be like ah which wouldn't naturally be
what i do
so yeah i really gotta push it i don't
scream i don't really you don't i don't
really yell you don't yell you're very
quiet and then yeah
right the screams are on the inside when
i was doing mine i was definitely
screaming my ass off like i was
definitely like
when i was following up with stuff i was
definitely like
and so it was really crazy a couple
years ago when i sat down with zendaya
and jacob zendaya you talked about your
terror at tom's potentially
throwing up in his spider-man mask and
expiring and it seemed like a legitimate
thing that has been plaguing you to the
point where you retweeted me again two
years later saying you're still thinking
about this and i feel like people are
like what made you think of that i feel
like it's just like a really obvious
thing yeah and it is actually a genuine
concern
so has this idea now been seeded into
your head tom was this not a concern and
is this now a concern
which is crazy to me you're just like ah
i'm like well you could drown in your
own vomit
i know if it happened i would i know
what i would do it wouldn't work
that would be scary is sometimes because
of the gloves i can't pop the eyes out
so i'd have to ask someone can you pop
the eyes out and then i would grab the
eye trays and just rip the suit yeah but
as you're throwing up yeah
you weren't in that suit then i was in
the homecoming suit the main the
homemade maids
in the scene where i'm crushed under the
concrete i was laying face down and i
was really like stuck under that thing
like they would lower it down and then
they would let me struggle let me
struggle let me struggle and i would try
and push it but couldn't move it was too
heavy and then when spider-man was
supposed to then be doing the heroic
stuff they would help me lift it but
when i was face down there was a like a
pipe that was supposed to burst that was
dropping on the back of my head and
obviously in the mask as it got wet the
water just kind of built up in the front
and i was kind of like waterboarding
myself so i i had to rip the mask off
and that's not even the real suit mm-hmm
after your spider-man days are done to
deal with all the trauma you've been
through yeah absolutely i'm just saying
starting today
okay so like part of the aspect of this
new one is obviously the world finding
out that spider-man is peter parker
peter parker spider-man if you had a
friend in your life that you just
suddenly found out oh by the way i'm a
superhero how would you feel about that
like kind of betrayed like oh oh really
oh now so everyone else finds out before
me
i'd be jealous
i'm like i can't be friends with you
anymore because i want to be a superhero
back and where's the spider let the
spider bite me yeah let the spider bite
me yeah i don't know i'd be like you
always have to remember that maybe the
reason they haven't told you that
they're trying to protect you right yeah
yeah right thank you for protecting me
why did you now decide to not protect my
life yeah so actually
that's messed up yeah and i want to say
mj
figured it out
right
right right that's true that's true so
she basically knew the entire time just
saying yeah i know it's very true i love
that scene on the bridge it's so funny
i'm also curious tom it seems like over
the years i feel like you've become the
punching bag for some of your fellow
superheroes in the mcu anthony mackie
just lives to tear you apart
i'm curious interesting to talk about
you have to talk about me
i don't mind yeah that's solid do you
not mind has he has anthony mackie ever
made you cry tom be honest anthony marty
and i are very good friends
and we really really enjoy each other's
company he's probably one of the people
that i gravitate towards most when i'm
on the set of avengers
we have a very similar sense of humor
and
you know of all the of most of the
people on the set anthony was one of the
most welcoming albeit he did make a joke
on the day i walked on the civil war set
that where he was like this is my film
set don't mess around if you mess around
you're gonna mess with me and i'll mess
with you and then he broke characters
and we're great friends and our kind of
rivalry on camera has actually been
really fun and and i love taking the
fist out of him he's so easy to think
who do you think you text the most out
of your mcu friends out of the fellow
superheroes who do you think you're in
contact with the most rdj i speak to rdj
quite a lot yeah him and i are in touch
a lot and he has been so helpful for me
over the last few years with like my
life changing he's also a great friend
he's also someone that i love to just
catch up with and have a laugh with i
know in lockdown him and i spoke quite a
lot no he would call
and harry and i would sit there and tell
him about our day and
he would tell us about his day and
yeah i think of all superheroes it would
be rdj it's amazing we talked a lot
about you know miles morales at some
point existing in the live-action
universe i'm curious like from for you
guys would you want to see miles with
your group as the baton is passed or do
you feel like do your thing and then
eventually miles gets selfishly i would
love to interact yeah for sure that
would be really cool
i also think we have an opportunity to
not do like kind of like the bond thing
where it's like there is a spider-man
and then it just there isn't a
spider-man and then you start again yeah
like we've had such a beautiful journey
with the mcu there's no reason to kind
of tell a story where my spider-man for
whatever reason has to retire and passes
the baton on to you know the next young
kid i think that could be a really
cool movie the funny thing is that as i
think of it is like we think of
spider-man as kind of like the kid on
the block in the mcu but now there are
all these like even newer folks out
there whether it's elena or kate bishop
or ms marvel are there any of those
characters that you're excited to see
spidey interact with as we look forward
yeah i think elena will be very cool
that's awesome i think that would be a
really fun
like the kind of russian aspect of it to
the new yorker kind of thing would be a
very interesting dynamic i think they
have a lot of fun together chickens in
there for you guys you've basically been
in this spider verse outside of that in
the larger mcu where would you want to
pop up is there a place for your
characters you think without without
peter even just to pop up independently
oh that's tough yeah that's tough i feel
like we're so late mj yeah that's just
so interesting like i feel like so fos
yeah like we're so team spider-man that
i feel like it'd be weird to be in some
other kind of movie you know what i mean
like i would like to see ned and mj like
visit wakanda
yeah
yeah for sure because they're super high
tech like you and cheers sure yeah
that's a good time for sure i i agree
with you building things i actually
agree with that for sure smart little
kids yeah so probably i'd like to see mj
in a kind of daredevil setting like
being an investigator to invest
in why can't i speak investigator
investigative
investigative just adding one syllable
investigator investigation
i don't know why my brain just
disconnected from my mouth there
and
a detective is what i think yes i'd like
to see mj like be a detective in hell's
kitchen like figuring out a crime i
think that would be really cool
when i was talking to zendaya and timmy
about dune i was trying to pitch you tom
as fade in the next dune film could you
or jacob see yourselves with zendaya in
a different context in dune why
[Laughter]
[Music]
[Laughter]
what's happening here is not what
spiderman will have trouble swinging on
arrakis
he's like yeah exactly
spider dudes spiders
spadoons
now do you guys know what happens in the
second season of euphoria or is it like
on lockdown just like spiderman
i don't really i i've spent a lot of
time so i know
yeah i can share some secrets yeah
that'd be great i would love to know
there's some great secrets
sam's actually asked me like what i
think and i'm like uh i'm just visiting
i don't want to just read the lines yeah
so one of the things i love about these
films is that like as great as the
spectacle is even three films in really
the core is you guys and the
relationship between you guys as you've
gotten through these three films are you
partially surprised frankly that at the
heart of it is still personal human
stories
i mean i feel like that was always jon's
intention yeah that was definitely
from the beginning from the beginning is
to uh is to live with peter parker and
you know in this movie we get a little
bit more of the spider-man side of peter
parker which is we're always on the
peter parker side you know um we get to
get to know who he is outside of her
classroom
and we had a lot of discussions about it
i think particularly for this movie
because it's so ambitious and there's so
much going on it's we talked about how
important it is always to maintain the
heart of the film which is
you know uh the peter side you know the
love the love that these people share
for each other and how much they care
about each other and have each other's
back which is really why most people
have
their love for spider-man in general
like he's the superhero that is the
friendly neighborhood guy that you feel
like is your best friend or is your you
know brother or whatever and that's what
makes him feel so
so real
um so i think that that's always
in mind when we step into these movies
that's the fun part also is when we're
all together and we can do those things
together it is fun this is the best time
to be like at that moment when you step
out of ourselves and you're like this is
so ridiculous
i can't believe the things we're doing
like one scene between the three of us
with the box
[Laughter]
and then you look at it you're like wow
we're getting paid to do this
i like that we all swang together yeah
i like swinging
in the spirit of the multiverse looking
back can you think of like what the
alternate reality would have been had
you guys not gotten these roles i mean i
think back i remember tom like you
weren't even the presumptive favorite
like there was there were other actors
talked about and then out of nowhere
you're saying the alternate universe
where timothy is spider-man and you're
paul and i'm paul
[Laughter]
and i'm still me
yeah and you're still killing the game
winning every award under the sun
multiple franchises they're massively
successful i'm still killing it
zendaya wins no matter what doesn't
matter
uh what will we be doing in an alternate
universe it'd be an interesting one i'm
very very grateful we got placed
together for sure
what a different experience it would
have been with someone
yeah and like if yeah completely anyone
else yeah it's just weird it would have
been so off we're so lucky that we are
all such good friends
i know you're just good actors you can
barely stand each other