so guys I know what the ton of this video says but I want to sit down and
have a heart-to-heart talk about the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2080 ti launch
don't worry I will talk about the RTXs 2070 a little bit later around
the video but I want to dial back a few days or I just want down back and talk
about this particular launch that took place a few days ago now that day was
certainly interesting for us here at Hardware Canucks and to be honest with you we
really appreciate your feedback both positive and negative in fact smart
folks say that people learn from criticisms rather than compliments and
everyone here the team takes them to heart so about the RT X 2080 and the RTX
2080 ti video we still stand by our results and conclusions 100% but but
before you start going crazy all over the comments we realized that there's
still more room for information and additional perspectives now there's been
a lot of questions from our audience about how well the custom GTX 1080 ti
cards from board partners stack up to the RTX 2080 it actually got me and
the rest of the team wondering if moving outside the founders edition spec would
change the results well we're gonna find out but not with something like the gtx
1080 ti Strix OC or ZOTAC amp Edition GPU since both of those cost even more than
the RTX 2080 founders Edition on new egg and Amazon right now they also
represent the absolute highest pre overclocked spec of a previous
generation design and using those would just serve to stack the deck both
positively and negatively so what we did is order a more affordable custom and
prio o'clock EVGA GTX 1080 ti that will be compared against the RT X 2080
it will be interesting to see how the two cards stack up when both have
downdraft coolers anyways that's the end of this public message you spoke we
listened and as usual we really appreciate your feedback so now on to
the RTX 2070 and to be honest I think it's gonna have a tough time competing
against last gen card so let's dive into that right after this the new master
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when Nvidia first announced the RTX 2080 ti and the RTX 2080
there was another little surprise the RTX 2070 this is actually the first time
that there were three different GPUs at 20 different price points that were
announced and it showed in video was ready to replace their entire high-end
GP lineup not only that but they were replacing them with products that are
much much more expensive that's a pretty big problem since it automatically sets
expectations based on what looks like inflated prices rather than the merits
of the GPUs themselves let's quickly go through the RTX 2070 specifications
since they will set the stage for the rest of this video this is what Nvidia
is calling their tu 106 core and right away people will make an association
with the GP 106 core that was used in the GTX 1060 back then the GTX 1070 and
1070 ti I used a cut-down GP 104 core from the GTX 1080 but this time around
Nvidia decided to build a brand new design for the RTX 2070 in this case it
means that the RTX 2070 will get a fully enabled tu 106 core with 2,300 for
cuda cores 140 for textual units 64 ro PS and a 256-bit wide memory bus in many
ways this looks like a gtx 2080 core that simply been cut in half but with
memory controllers l3 cache and ROP s remaining intact for the bigger GPU I
can't say this for certain but it looks like the main reason Nvidia designed a
new chip for the RTX 2070 was power efficiency instead of needing to use the
power-hungry 215 watt tu-104 as a baseline the standard RTX 2070 will
consume about 175 watts okay so before again to the specs of the
baseline RTX 2070 GPU I do want to mention that you should
take pricing on these GPS with a huge bucket of salt because with the RTX
2080 and the RT X 28 ETI the pricing on those GPUs just make me feel frustrated
and currently with the pricing I mean you really can't pick up those GPS at
the starting price that Nvidia is claiming which is definitely frustrating
and disappointing so you know while the RTX 2070 is supposed to start at $500 I'm
gonna call BS on that because I don't think you'll be able to pick
a GPU at that price during launch in October and honestly I would hope I hope
to be proven wrong but with the current state of RTX pricing eight it really
makes me feel angry and like I said my original review you are paying for a
bunch of promises that are supposed to happen sometime in the near future but
there is no guarantee to that so here are the specs that I've been talking
about and on paper at least it looks like nvidia is keeping a good separation
between the RTX 2070 ti the 2080 and the 2080 TI with between $200 and $300 gap
between them you can also see that despite having less course the RTX 2070
keeps the 256 bit 8 gigabyte memory interface which may be a key point for
4k gameplay whether or not it will have enough physical processing course to
backup that interface is another matter though now if we end the GTX 1080 and
the gtx 1070 series you can see where this RTX 2070 may get into a bit of
trouble while the gtx 1080 launched around $550 most custom and pre
overclocked board partner versions currently go for 480 to 510 dollars
meanwhile it has more cores more texture units and faster clock speeds than the
identically priced RTX 2070 and again I'm saying identically price because I'm
certain it'll almost be impossible to find a $500 RTX 2070 on launch day what
will probably be even more interesting to see is how this new card lines up
against the north gtx 1070 TI for its current price of between 420 and 460
that card is an absolute beast in benchmarks so here's a bigger potential
problem the RTX 2070 founders edition costs another hundred dollars or 20% on
top of the finer dollars in videos asking us to pay let me say that again
my friends the RTX 2070 founders Edition is $600 now maybe this card will
surprises with its performance but I think we can actually see what the
challenge of adding RTX features looks like in cards that are supposed to be
more affordable those features at die space and doesn't increase production
cost for the whole lineup I also have to wonder at what point does adding RT and
tensor functionality to lower end course like the T 106 become a matter of
diminishing which at some point in time I'm sure there
just won't be enough of those specialized course on a chip to properly
process ai and ray-tracing I'd also like to mention that we've
entered an acht I'm in the GPU market because people really don't care about
the dye size or the transistor counts what they did see is the current or the
new line up costing significantly higher than previous generations specifically
the founders Edition GPUs and what's really interesting is I guess the bigger
problem to this whole launch is that even though the 20 or the 2000 series
offer impressive performance at 4k it just doesn't promise or it doesn't
deliver the RTX features that they do claim to be so like I said my original
view you are paying for something that just is not reality and if NVIDIA fails
to promise or if they fail to deliver RTX is true potential then then there's
gonna be hell to pay so the RTX 2070 founders edition is a
much shorter card than the RTX 2080 series but it still has the downdraft
style cooler in this case everything looks shrunken down to a smaller scale
there's still plenty of high-end finishing and a glowing GeForce logo
just like those other cards I think this one looks pretty good and that doesn't
mean it's worth the hundred dollar premium
one major difference is the location of the power connector on this example even
though the card is shorter which could make it an eventual solution for small
form-factor systems and medium made the weird decision to put it around the back
that just adds to its length and limits compatibility so I think it's a very odd
move from Nvidia there's another missing element on this backplate and I'll give
you five seconds to figure out what it is
all right so time's up and if you know the answer well here it is
there's no env link connector to pass an SLI signal between two graphics cards
that's because the Tia 106 core doesn't support multi card configurations now
you may be able to use DX twelves explicit multi-gpu technology in some
instances but that's just a workaround and it doesn't cut to the heart of this
problem this could be another big miss for NVIDIA in my opinion with every
generation it seems like the ability to multiply cards gets constrained just a
bit more with Pascal it was a gtx 1060 but now it's the 2070 what's next now
I'm sure the number of people actually using s lie on gtx 1070 cards wasn't
huge but the option was still there and not having it on a $600 GPU just feels
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so there you guys have it everything that you need to know before the RTX
2070 benchmarks are revealed sometime in October and now do yourself a favor and
don't fall into this hole pre-order phenomenon thinking with this particular
card because if I were you I would wait for reviews and better yet if you don't
need a cutting-edge card for 4k then I would wait until 2019 to see if those
RTX promises are actually kept because for a card like this there's bound to be
some performance sacrifices somewhere I'm also pretty concerned about what
we've seen from the RTX 2070 so far since out of all the RTX series cards
its founders Edition pricing seems the most out of whack the 2080 was expensive
while the 2080 Tiye is hideously expensive but this card looks like it's
forcing up the cost of the popular mainstream market come review time and
video may have a tough time convincing us that 80 106 base GPU is worth $600
but you never know miracles do happen but hopefully this
quick preview will prevent you from making any rash decisions on
pre-ordering before that time comes a me bar with hurricane X thank you so much
for watching stay tuned for the full performance run down between the custom
gtx 1080 ti that we ordered from EVGA and of course we put it up against the
RTX 2080 founders Edition and of course we will do a lot of our TX content
specifically comparing you know custom bored partner cars with the gtx 1080 ti
with the RTX 2080 and we will give you guys the full analysis when it comes to
temperatures and all that kind of stuff so there's a lot of content hitting or
coming your way so again stay tuned for that I'm signing off and I'll see you
guys in the next one