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of boxing dot com robert how are you tonight
but great britain's got creek
doing good we had a a
you mom gets upset this past weekend
what seems like
down the road for me in los angeles at the staples center
the torch he's against
jose seato lopez of riverside california he was a late substitute as andre berto
was taken out of the fight for performance enhancing drugs sold mopeds
comes in has the fights of his life
and then thi ko as victor or cheese
as ortiz said to the referee that he broke his jaw and he didn't want to
continue uh...
robber what do you make of this firstly with ortiz i know that many people were
talking about
his heart that he suffered a broken johnnie showed no heart
use ahead on all three judges scorecards when the flight was
uh... when he wanted to fight to stop what do you make of this
well it turned out in the surgery today joe was fractured broken intruded in
places
of
she had internal bleeding
uh... you wind anybody else who heard the causeway press conference was
obviously it was
seriously injured israel was sort of flapping openly couldn't four continents
and obviously the he was hurt
uh... ever had any quick
under the question equities porter was pushing the continue
uh...
and he could not continue any longer um...
and boxes quicker we want to recently quit either because they've been to
people who they've been wounded
or the quick because um... to matter partner being humiliated like to remedy
for leonard
about this is obviously before he was hurt
um... and he did not continue he chose not to do you
many people as you said ron the comparison the mohammed ali when he
broke his jaw yet so it lost that fight in which he broke his job but he still
continue these still one on and obviously we think of muhammad ali as a
champion
uh... ortiz does he will he take and should he take
a lot of criticism for not continuing in choosing the throw in the towel
well i mean i would hope that we have also had little time criticisms uh... at
him
for his actions and or his lack of action so after the ninety rounds
but it's worth remembering that
boxing is such in addition controls sport because it's very progress
is to disable
your opponent
uh... we're nothing about polls reluctant about baskets are not talking
about hallmark talking about disney pulling your opponent
and logos will enable to disable ortiz i mean that's really what happened
um...
and
the key to your flack nineteen possibly let me know other fighters have
continued you mentioned already
with a broken jaw pull them all analogy when you look how went up against uh...
beetle could look at our data program over the bones thoughtful fight
arturo gatti we've lost we lost track of all the number of times he fall which
were broken hands
how would you put payment is is looking for a personal matter asses
out-of-pocket high-paying
and the porch he spelled really couldn't continue policy will have to respect the
fact that he couldn't continue
you could tell in the polls flight
uh... interview with jim gray that his job was broken and then you could hear
it in the way that he talked to p
it seem like he was even cricket a little bit uh... ortiz now falls to
twenty nine and four he still has twenty two knockouts
to his name uh... tell me what you think about this robert just a few points that
i personally have to make in the second round
a guy who was known and that is ortiz for having some solid knockout
power
jose seetha lopez in the second round yet i'm against the ropes
anne could knock him out now
uh... did you feel like in the second round he could have ended it right there
when lopez was backed up against the ropes
well i think you could get it appeared he would have ended apparently the fact
that he couldn't do it had too much to do with lopez
probably
as it does ortiz
uh... opportunity knocks if one doesn't open that door when opportunity knocks
sight read that door closes again
and that exactly what happened in the second round
and as you know what the play progressed otherwise got stronger and stronger and
stronger more and more confident knowing that if you take it into a grounds
that the avengers which shifted his direction which is exactly what happened
if he was indeed incredibly confident you saw him at times
saying go tease come on
front with slight bring it to me i mean his confidence was
so high in this fight and if felt like he
knew that he had a fight nevada at certain points even though one ortiz
lopez's down on of all three judges scorecards one of them was eighty eight
eighty three which is absurd but
anyways another point i wanna make if you notice in the seventh around
when ortiz was in the corner
he brought his trainer
very close to amend whispered in his fear i'd believe now many people are
going to say you know uh... innate around it looked like he got his job
broken in the last twenty seconds of a rowlett took some good shots on the
stand however one could make the the case
going into i'll believe it was either after the seven th around or going into
the seventh round or going if the eight
that uh...
ortiz leaned into his trainer
and it was for something to
and then you hear his trainers say back to him
you have to keep going and then you see ortiz acknowledged
i believe you can even say their age
judge who goes into each corner monitors what's going on a make sure they don't
plan on
an overabundance of asked lean on the fighter and you seem
ortiz kinda look at hand and you see in this
smile and
you are not as had did you notice that at all going into a believe the seventh
around
well i a naked and i think in this world but his that it was really in the
seventh round that used to always broken the first time
again it was broken into places that had to move into separate hits
so the believe his that it was broken in the seventh round
uh... the first time
the packages trainers should you have to continue army not allowing the footer to
decide whether or not he's able to continue
is sort of awful i mean it renewed air to protect the fighter not only
physically but to protect its interests itself like his trainer
did not
any other when he was not looking at the big picture that's for sure he was
looking at the uh... it's a small picture he figured if he could
if you'd ortiz could possibly
squeaked through the twelve rounds he we get the decision which obviously he was
going to get
no matter what
and then you get his
became a day with booking of all prayers on the fifteen to september
but of course c_e_o_ you have the best lead up to one best-laid plans of mice
and men but it's failed to materialize that's what happened overnight
will get to the canal fight in the future and just a moment will more plan
i have to make is that wanniski did
witnesses ortiz when he decided to
get out of the fight and throw in the towel basically on himself
it seemed like he said yeah i'm quitting my job is broken i'm quitting
and then right when he got up it looked like he was ready to go back
and go fight lopez i mean it seemed like the
was unsure of himself and didn't really know that he just made that decision
'cause i'm when you look
not only that but when you look after the fighting's leaned over against the
same
maybe it's because of
that he called uh... he quit on himself for that he just didn't know what was
your take on that
well i think i think you're right i think i think it hit him after the fact
watkins and leaving on the singular despondent
exactly what it was he did what had happened the exact same but everybody
hoped wouldn't happen
that he wouldn't have a meltdown that he wouldn't be injured that he wouldn't try
to get out of the fight
and again justifiably in this case
it wasn't until you simply be upset with by flloyd mayweather he's yet you should
house way out for kisses way out of his way out
he was injured seriously injured he every way to get out of plate
and yet
there is a fighter's heart there some way to notify you ship it is definitely
there's hard and i think that that was what was so moving forward
you know to continue to fight even though you just it now but he could no
longer fight and again but i think after the fact would easily treachery
is that that's when it hit him
let's talk about the letter i mean all this talk about the flight of the big
name is the door to the polls i see the lopez
put on a
powerful and counter punching clinic on victoria to ease at times although
albeit it seemed like he he got a little wild at times and
if you face is a
it's a car for punctured in the forties and that the republicans but he faces a
little more
technical an eight more powerful puncher i'd believe that those wild punches will
cost him but in this fight it simply did not himself thirty and forty years
eighty knockouts
to his name lopez that is
where does he go from here could he possibly fight in even bigger name after
this
i think you could you will what i think you have to do it i think you were to
pretty well if you want to know if he wants one want to try to leave the
silver title
uh... but they approved twenty five percent
uh... so if you imagine lopez improving twenty five percent
he could be a handful for urban maybe not anybody but certainly for a lot of
top-notch waiters uh...
and again let me do you get to all the odds are against m putting a marquee
fighter taking quite last minute writing above his natural weight everything was
against amongst right
and yet somehow he
not only quote through beaudoin decisively and they're pretty remarkable
performance
he called himself the mexican paul williams after the fight
and that he is fearless and will fight
anybody so we'll see how that goes meanwhile whereas the towards these go
from here obviously can't fight in three months against a humongous payday
against fidel alvarez asar authorities first where does he go from here robert
well yes towards asking them possible and go to rehab but we have to go first
place
and if you're back in the gym you have to end the computer slow process if i'm
gonna happen quickly
and then he have to
here to sort of put his way back into contention
i'm either going to give the title shot on the ad soap opera silver title
whatever those
the doctor totals are difficult to get away from each wilshire at all about he
had to put with that can be contention again
and i think that any opponent that you're going to fight him
understand
that they're dealing with
damaged goods
great mentally physically
but mentally and leading injured not injured everybody knows she has a
history the first like to be loss which is a good product profile was because
she threw the vehicle punched so he was disqualified in there with the fight
with me dot out there was a pilot mayweather and now there is displayed
with throughout
with hook issue lopez um... they know who they're getting they're getting in
the ring with
and i think that's going to be a real advantage for any opponent and ortiz
pieces
and really disadvantage for cheese as well could you get used to call it we
have to be any time you get to the ring
hit between the problem
they have to be himself
what about the lower as robert i mean where
firstly who do they throw up against this guy it seems
unnecessarily as last minute you could say last minute i mean it's the fight is
in three months
who goes up against canal
well pathak i'm not sure that talking about the bob dole paul walker
sounds absolutely at like a terrible idea
uh... the better business world and i think they're wallach up against in a
better be free a better not be good for a few although it better be free
ellington wanna watch it at the church
creat leaders but they like western watching one and commitment of a man
but thought about some idea of sport
uh...
the last thing i wanna see
and for what happened to chance in hell
of beating canola oil and everybody knows that i'm not really hoping that'll
make that that should really be
not only an insult boxing and play pants but just
up painful exhibition at the witness
thank you
i mean let's be real for second robert you can't really
i like that we can blame them from the outside looking in but as if you were
with golden boy
can you really blame them for you know what they took a chance
with their toward tease if fell through sol-gel put him up against one more guy
who was not a big name build up his resume a little more have that drew
saginaw loss column and then go from there can you really blame them for
throwing up
not a no-name any travel log had that one very good fight against government
readers on friday night fights but can you blame on
well-motivated investment i mean they have to have a lot of the student him i
mean i don't blame it all
um... they have to do it if they have to do in their concerns with the bottom
line which is uh... everybody's concern on the planet
but my concern of the bottom line my concern is really with boxing and the
help in the they had a couple of sport
and uh...
in terms of having a healthy sport
watching colonel operatives
powell on pablo falk we know ex-cop we know can take a punch
but is not inherently get all i think it's not
but have anything to help boxing
clerkship and i want barking before march
inouye it is really unfortunate
the torch these you know not only to lose the flight but because he is such a
good guy and heat seems like eight true professionals
it's unfortunate to see him lose but it seems as though he will have to
start over
you could say possibly his career at least
uh... build his resonate back op
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