and in the west from the Walter
Cronkite school of journalism at
Arizona state university.
Judy: The U.S. Senate race to
craft a bipartisan deal on gun
law reform aiming for a deal by
the end of the week.
Lisa, as we said, some of the
senators were saying they hope
to pull something off this week.
Could that happen?
>> Speaking of senators coming
out of important lunchtime
meetings today, there is reason
for hope, but hope is a very
fragile but in a very stormy
senate.
I will tell you what is on the
table right now, what senators
are looking at earnestly.
First, let's talk about some of
the things they are discussing.
They want to encourage red flag
lost in the state, not a
national red flag law.
They also talked about including
juvenile records in background
checks.
A lot of these large shootings,
of course, caused by young men
who may have had some sort of
interaction with police or other
officials in the past.
Then were talking about
increasing the waiting period
for getting a gun if you are
under 20 and on -- under 21
years old.
On the table right now in the
U.S. Senate, the idea of raising
the age to purchase some guns,
especially military-style
assault weapons.
I feel very solid about this.
I spoke to senators and to AIDS
are involved closely -- senators
and to aides who are involved
closely.
It is a critical moment these
next few days.
Judy: Picking up on that, talk
about the political dynamics
here.
You have looked at which
lawmakers are key in seeing if
something happens or not.
>> Some of these are familiar
faces, but I want to show
viewers the key faces to watch.
There are 4 senators really
leading the discussions.
Kyrsten Sinema and Chris Murphy
of Connecticut, also John Cornyn
of Texas.
The two in the middle, Chris
Murphy and John Cornyn, are
really the key.
I'm told if those two can agree
on something, they think
something can come out of the
senate.
Of course, you need at least 10
Republicans ultimately to pass
through the senate.
A lot of these faces are
familiar to our viewers.
These are senators who have been
in discussions and overlapping
meetings and I'm told are hoping
to meet tomorrow together to see
if they can reach a framework by
the end of the week, but
senators are not the only voices
that are important in this right
now.
There are other voices, as you
heard earlier, in the newscast.
Families asking for urgency and
also kind of unusual characters
like the actor Matthew
mcconaughey.
He was born in uvalde, Texas.
He came to Washington yesterday,
had dinner with senators.
Here's what he said, trying to
make the case that there should
be a practical agreement going
forward that both gun owners and
those who don't own guns both
want.
>> Response will gun owners are
fed up with the second amendment
being abused and hijacked by
some deranged individuals.
Can both sides rise above?
Can both sides see beyond the
political problem at hand and
admit that we have a life
preservation problem on our
hands?
>> Part of the pressure here,
that idea of life preservation.
Judy: In the meantime, the house
of representatives going ahead
with more ambitious legislation.
>> The house will start voting
on gun bills tomorrow.
The Democrats do expect to pass
the house first a national law.
-- National red flag law.
Another idea would be to raise
the aged by semiautomatic
weapons.
They would like a band of
high-capacity magazines and
background checks for ghost
guns.
These are ideas we expect to
pass the democratic-led house
that likely will not influence
the senate either way.
We expect all members of the
democratic caucus likely to be
on the floor tomorrow for a
national crime debate.
Judy: You know this congress
well.
You know this issue of guns has
come up again and again and
these tragic crimes, one after
another.
>> I want to point out sort of
where we are with gun laws in
this country.
Let's look at what major gun
laws have passed -- 1993, the
Brady act.
1994, the federal ban on assault
weapons, but that expired in
2004.
That next year is when congress
passed protection for gun
manufacturers, and look at what
we are seeing after 2005.
If you look at the kinds of
shootings we have seen across
this country.
These are just some of the most
well-known ones, and during that
time, no major gun legislation.
There was a mixed bill which
kind of ended the loophole in
2017, but nothing major.
I will say, I feel something
different this time.
You always say that, but it is
less emotional right now, and it
feels more pragmatic.
It feels like members of the
senate no this country does not
think congress is doing its job,
both parties.
They want to show that they can
do something on this issue.
Judy: A lot of people watching.
Thank you.
>> You're welcome.