>>NEW ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT, ASSAULT, AND
MISCONDUCT HAVE BEEN RAISED AGAINST KEVIN SPACEY, THIS TIME
FROM THE SET OF HOUSE OF CARDS.
IN A DETAILED REPORT BY CNN,
PEOPLE WHO WORKED ON THE SET WITH KEVIN SPACEY, WITNESSES
HAVE COME FORWARD SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HIS MISCONDUCT --
>>FOLLOWING THE ALLEGATIONS RELEASED BY ACTOR ANTHONY RAPP,
SPACEY SAID THROUGH HIS PUBLICIST THAT HE WAS SEEKING
UNSPECIFIED TREATMENT, BUT SINCE THEN --
>>THE REPORT GOES INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT ALLEGATIONS,
PEOPLE SPEAKING ON THE RECORD, THOUGH AGAIN ANONYMOUS, AND
IN PART WHAT THEY ECHO IS THE FOLLOWING --
>>NETFLIX HAS SORT OF SCRAMBLED TO ISSUE STATEMENTS WITH THESE
NEW ALLEGATIONS COMING FORWARD, NETFLIX IS SAYING THEY WERE JUST
MADE AWARE OF AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON THE SET FIVE YEARS
AGO, THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT WAS RESOLVED
SWIFTLY, THEY THINK THAT IT WAS, AND MRC RELEASED A
STATEMENT SAYING --
>>THIS SPECIFICALLY REALLY DOESN'T HOLD UP, BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING FORWARD SAYING
THAT SITUATIONS CAME OUT FOLLOWING THE INCIDENT IN 2012.
>>I THOUGHT THEY SAID THEY HADN'T BEEN REPORTED THOUGH.
>>IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE THESE PEOPLE WERE COMFORTABLE COMING
FORWARD FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR JOB.
ONE CREW MEMBER SAYS WHO IS
GOING TO BELIEVE CREW MEMBERS, YOU ARE GOING TO GET FIRED?
ANOTHER PERSON SAID IT WAS KNOWN THAT KEVIN WAS INAPPROPRIATE,
MEN COMPLAINED TO ME THAT THEY FELT UNCOMFORTABLE.
I WILL TOSS
IT TO YOU, YOU ARE THE MOVIE GUY, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE
TO THESE ACCUSATIONS?
>>WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY HANDLED IT YET, THEY SAID THEY
HANDLED 15 YEARS AGO, IF PEOPLE HADN'T COME TO THEM THEN
THEORETICALLY THERE'S NOTHING THEY COULD'VE DONE, ALTHOUGH YOU
WOULD THINK THAT AFTER ONE INCIDENT, WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW
YOU WOULD HAVE A STAFF WIDE MEETING AND SAY IF YOU HAVE ANY
COMPLAINT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR, YOU CAN COME TO US, AND IT
DOESN'T APPEAR THEY DID THAT.
WE ARE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT WORLD
NOW, IT FEELS LIKE THAT WORLD IS NEVER GOING TO GO BACKWARDS, IT
FEELS LIKE WE HAVE REACHED A TIPPING POINT THAT SEEMED
OBVIOUS EVEN BEFORE KEVIN SPACEY, THE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST
HIM, CAME ABOUT.
I HOPE THEY DEAL WITH THIS SWIFTLY.
I WOULD
LOVE TO HAVE SEEN, BECAUSE ALL THESE COMPANIES, NPR AS WELL,
MRC, AND NETFLIX, THEY ALL CLAIM THAT THEY ADDRESSED THESE ISSUES
WITH THESE POWERFUL PEOPLE AT EACH OF THESE INSTITUTIONS.
I
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN HOW THEY WERE ADDRESSED, BECAUSE I DON'T
IMAGINE -- I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING, I DOUBT KEVIN SPACEY
GOT A REAL DRESSING DOWN.
THE SHOW IS KEVIN SPACEY, IT
CERTAINLY WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, NOW THEY COULD PROBABLY GO ON
WITHOUT HIM, IF THEY GOT RID OF HIM MAYBE THEY CAN GET TWO OR
THREE SEASONS OUT OF IT, BUT BACK THEN THEY COULDN'T.
SO I'M CURIOUS WHEN THEY SAY THEY DEALT WITH IT SWIFTLY,
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANT.
>>AND THEY SAY THEY FELT THEY DEALT WITH IT IN A WAY THAT WAS
COMPREHENSIVE, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT DIDN'T BLEED DOWN TO THE
LOWER RANKS OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THE SHOW, THEY FELT THEY CAN
ONLY CONFIDE IN PEOPLE AT THE SAME LEVEL BECAUSE YOU WERE
TALKING ABOUT RAISING A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE
EXECUTIVE PRODUCER.
>>THEY EVEN WENT UP A LEVEL, A PA WOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE
A/D, THE A/D WOULD SAY THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE, IT SUCKS.
>>IT WAS A WELL-KNOWN CULTURE OF THAT SHOW.
>>THESE ARE PRIVATE MATTERS, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T
ANNOUNCE TO THE SHOW THAT SPACEY HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH SOMETHING,
BUT AT LEAST NOW WE KNOW THAT IF SOMEONE COMES FORWARD YOU
HAVE TO GO TO THE WHOLE COMPANY AND SAY YOU HAVE TO FEEL
COMFORTABLE COMING FORWARD, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE
THE CASE FIVE YEARS AGO.
>>I MADE THE MISTAKE OF CHECKING THE COMMENTS OF ONE OF
OUR OTHER SEXUAL-HARASSMENT VIDEOS.
BACK IN THE GOOD OLD
DAYS OF YOUTUBE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE COMMENTS AND GET SOMETHING
OUT OF IT EVEN IF IT WAS A CRITIQUE, THAT'S AN INTERESTING
POINT.
NOW OF COURSE THERE IS LOTS OF CRAZINESS GOING ON.
A
LOT OF THE GUYS WERE, AND NOT ALL OF THEM, THE TROLLS ARE TINY
PERCENTAGE, BUT A LOT OF THEM WERE LIKE NOW YOU CAN PUNISH
PEOPLE FOR CRUDE COMMENTS?
THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS GOING ON
HERE, ONE OF THEM IS IF YOU HAVE ACCRUED COMMENT OF TWO DIFFERENT
CITIZENS RUNNING ACROSS EACH OTHER AT A BAR, THAT'S ONE
THING.
IT'S ANOTHER WHEN SOMEONE CAN CONTROL YOUR JOB AND KEEPS
MAKING CRUDE COMMENTS IN AN EFFORT TO HIT ON YOU, THAT'S
SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN THE WORKPLACE.
AND THEN HERE YOU
HAVE NONCONSENSUAL TOUCHING, GONE, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT, LET
ALONE BY THE BOSS.
AND THEN IT'S NOT ONE PERSON, IT'S EIGHT
PEOPLE, THEN THERE IS THE UNDERAGE PEOPLE THAT SPACEY IN A
DIFFERENT CONTEXT IS ALLEGED TO HAVE DONE THINGS TO.
>>THE FIRST ALLEGATION.
>>I THINK AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT IS THAT HIS PREDATORY
BEHAVIOR IS PREDOMINANTLY EXPRESSED TOWARD MEN AND
MEN ARE STATISTICALLY LESS LIKELY TO COME FORWARD WITH
ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE BECAUSE THERE'S A STIGMA OF SEXUAL
ABUSE AND MAN, THERE IS A HEAVY SHAME --
>>I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, IT MAKES SENSE.
>>YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE STATISTICS OF MEN WHO ARE UNDER
REPORTING ANY SEXUAL ABUSE, THAT'S A COMPONENT AS WELL,
ALONG WITH THE POWER DYNAMIC AT PLAY.
I JUST CAN'T GET OVER THE
FACT THAT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE MISCONDUCT OF
THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, LEAD ACTOR, ACADEMY AWARD WINNER, I
THINK YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT, HE WAS
THE SHOW.
HOUSE OF CARDS WAS
KEVIN SPACEY, YOU TUNED IN BECAUSE IT WAS A KEVIN SPACEY
PROJECT.
I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE MEN COMING FORWARD BECAUSE THEY
MUST'VE FELT SO POWERLESS.
>>WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET BEYOND, PROBABLY NEEDLESSLY SO, IS
PEOPLE WHO THINK COME ON, GUYS, IN THE OLD DAYS THERE WAS A BIG
STAR, THE BIG STAR HITS ON THE ACTRESSES ON THE SET, OR IN THIS
CASE THE GUYS ON THE SET, AND THAT'S JUST LIFE.
IT DEPENDS ON
THE POWER TO NAMIC, HE'S THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, HE CAN FIRE
YOU.
IT COULD BE EVEN AN IMPLICIT THREAT, IT'S HARDER TO
COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BOSS.
>>THIS IS A BUSINESS, SOMEONE WROTE ABOUT THIS TODAY, I
APOLOGIZE FOR NOT RECALLING WHO IT WAS, BUT WHILE WE ARE AT
LEAST NOW READING ABOUT THIS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, IS
BECAUSE IT'S A PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE SUBSET OF PEOPLE.
THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE SCREEN ACTORS GUILD WON'T
MAKE A DOLLAR THIS YEAR, THESE JOBS ARE HARD TO GET, THEY ARE
HARD TO GET AND PRODUCTION AS WELL, IF YOU GET A JOB ON A
SUCCESSFUL SHOW THAT APPEARS TO GO, NETFLIX IS THROWING MONEY
AROUND, OH MY GOD, THIS SHOW COULD RUN SEVEN YEARS, I COULD
RELAX AND TAKE A BREATH, I WILL MAKE AT LEAST 40 GRAND FROM THIS
SHOW THIS YEAR, MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO GET ANOTHER GIG, SO
GIVEN THAT SITUATION YOU THINK I WON'T ROCK THE BOAT.
SO THEN IT
BECOMES INCUMBENT ON NETFLIX AND MRC TO HAVE STEPPED FORWARD IN A
WAY THAT THEY CLEARLY DIDN'T DO, BUT IN EACH OF THE CASES WE ARE
READING ABOUT, COMPANIES HAVE NOT MOVED WITH THE SPEED THAT
THEY ARE MOVING NOW, IT'S ONLY BEEN FOUR WEEKS SINCE THE NEW
YORK TIMES BROKE THE FIRST WEINSTEIN STORY.
AND WE HAVE
SEEN A TOTAL CHANGE IN HOW THIS IS DEALT WITH AND OBVIOUSLY EACH
DAY THERE IS A DIFFERENT REVELATION.
>>WE HAVE CHANGED THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM, THINGS ARE MOVING SO
FAST, HARVEY WEINSTEIN FEELS LIKE YEARS AGO.
ONLY FOUR WEEKS
AGO, THAT'S AMAZING.