BACK IN JULY, PLAYMATES DANI MATHERS SET THE
INTERNET ON FIRE WITH A NUDE PICTURE OF SOMEONE ELSE AND NOW
SHE MAY FACE ACTUAL JAIL TIME FOR BREACHING PRIVACY LAWS
BECAUSE OF THIS.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THE PHOTO THAT SHE
POSTED ON SNAPSHOT.
IT IS OF - IN THE BACKGROUND THERE IS A
NUDE WOMAN AND SHE LOOKS SHOCKED AND SHE HAS WRITTEN A BODY
SHAMING COMMENT, IF I CAN'T UNSEE THIS YOU CAN'T EITHER.
THE IMAGE HAS BEEN CENSORED HERE.
NOW THE WOMAN WHO WAS IN
THE PICTURE ALLEGEDLY IN HER 70S HAS COME FORWARD AND IS WILLING
TO TESTIFY AGAINST MATHERS.
SO MATHERS ON HER OWN PART HAS
APOLOGIZED FOR THIS.
SAYING I KNOW THAT BODY SHAMING IS WRONG
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ABOUT THAT THAT PHOTO WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE PART OF A PERSONAL CONVERSATION WITH THE GIRLFRIEND
BECAUSE I AM NEW TO SNAPSHOT I REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD
POSTED AND THAT'S A HUGE MISTAKE.
BASICALLY, I MEANT TO POST IT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT EVERYONE
TO SEE IT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE FUN OF THIS POOR WOMAN TO JUST MY
SNARKY MODEL FRIENDS.
THAT IS VERY NICE OF YOU.
THAT WAS JUST FOR US.
I DO WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW I'M TERRIBLE JUST MY FRIENDS.
TO BE FAIR, REAL TALK.
YOU DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT ALL OF
MY TEXT MESSAGES AND VARIOUS EXCHANGES PUBLICLY RELEASED.
OBVIOUSLY WHAT SHE DID IS TOTALLY WRONG.
SHE'S A COMPLETE
ASS HOLE IN A BAD, BAD PERSON AND I WAS KINDA PROUD OF MYSELF
FOR NEVER HAVING DONE ANYTHING AS NASTY AS THAT, THE PRINCIPAL
STILL APPLIES.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO QUICKLY EXPOSE, BUT SHE DID
PUBLICLY EXPOSE IT.
IF YOU BELIEVE HER, BUT I DO BELIEVE HER BECAUSE IT
SEEMED SO PLAINLY OBVIOUS THAT MAKING IT PUBLIC WOULD
GENERATE THE KIND OF REACTION SHE RECEIVED.
YOU REALLY THINK SO?
SHE'S BEEN ON SNAPSHOT BEFORE THAT SHE IS NOT COMPLETELY
BRAND-NEW TO THIS.
SHE HAD BEEN ON SNAPSHOT?
IT WASN'T HER FIRST DAY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE AN EXCUSE.
A SNAPSHOT THE ONE THAT WENT AWAY.
IT DISSOLVES AWAY BUT PEOPLE CAN SCREENSHOT IT WHICH IS
WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THIS EVIDENCE TO
FOLLOW US AROUND.
MAYBE SHE THOUGHT I CAN GET AWAY WITH IT PUBLICLY
BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO GO AWAY?
SOMETIMES PEOPLE POST THINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY
PERFECT FOR THEIR IMAGE OR MAYBE SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING EDGY.
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ALL SPECULATION.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS.
THERE'S THE WORLD OF SOCIAL
MEDIA WERE EVERYBODY JUDGES EVERYTHING AND YOU HAVE TO
REALLY CAREFUL AND THEN THERE'S THE PRIVATE WORLD WHERE A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE GOOFBALLS AND THEY THINK THAT STUFF THAT IS SUPER
OFFENSIVE IS REALLY FUNNY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW ANYONE
WHO IS FILL IN THE BLANK.
WHO IS BLACK, OR WHO IS 70 YEARS OLD
OR WHO IS THIS OR THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT WE ARE NOT EXPOSED TO INNER
LIBERAL BUBBLE HERE.
BUT WE ARE ALSO, A CHANGING ROOM, THERE ARE NAKED PEOPLE
THERE USUALLY BUT IF YOU ARE NOT USUALLY THERE, YOU THINK IT IS
CRAZY THAT THERE NAKED PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A SHADY THING TO DO.
CRITICIZING SOMEONE FOR TRYING TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES.
NO ONE IS TRYING TO DISPUTE THAT IT'S A CITY THING.
WHETHER
SHE'S TRYING TO HER DOCTOR MANDATED IT, YOU CAN'T TAKE A
NAKED PICTURE OF SOMEONE IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND POST IT.
THAT'S PRETTY BASIC. 50 YEARS AGO YOU COULDN'T TAKE THAT
PICTURE PUT IT UP AT A LOCAL DRUG STORE.
SHE TOOK FOLLOW-UP SNAPSHOT LAUGHING.
IT WAS SO ON THE
NOSE.
THE ISSUE THEN TO ME IS DOES SHE DESERVE, THAT SHE
DESERVED PRISON?
SIX MONTHS.
JAIL.
LOCKED UP.
FREEDOM TAKEN AWAY.
EILEEN A NO ON THAT.
THE GUY WHO DID IT TO ERIN ANDREWS, HE GOT SIGNIFICANT JAIL
TIME.
CONTEXT DEFINITELY MATTERS.
MY THOUGHTS ON THIS
ARE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT THE WORD BODY SHAMING BUT
IT IRRITATES ME.
I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD.
CAN WE GO BACK TO CALLING PEOPLE TAKES?
IT WAS A DICK MOVE.
SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT.
ALL RIGHT SHE DID IT WITH THE DICK MOVE COMMENT, AND IF I HAVE
TO SEE THIS YOU DO.
ALL OF THAT ASIDE.
I FELT LIKE IF SOMEONE BODY SHAMED ME I
WOULD BE LIKE WHATEVER.
BUT IF SOMEBODY TOOK A PICTURE OF ME
NAKED AND PUT IT UP I WOULD BE LIKE WELL, WHAT THE FLOCK?
THE BODY SHAMING TO ME, WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG PART.
THE CRIMINAL COMPONENT OF THE CASE IS TAKING A NUDE PICTURE
AND POSTING IT.
THE PRIVACY.
THAT'S THE PART THAT VIOLATES CALIFORNIA PRIVACY LAWS.
THE SECOND PART JUST COMES OFF AS OH, I AM IN ACYL.
TO ME, TAKING A PICTURE OF SOMEONE NAKED AND PUTTING IT
ONLINE IS PRETTY BAD.
CALLING SOMEONE FACT, I DON'T CARE ABOUT
AT ALL.
NOBODY IS GOING TO JAIL FOR THAT I DON'T CARE THE PEOPLE
ARE OFFENDED.
YOU CAN CARE PERSONALLY.
GO NUTS AND HATE
EACH OTHER, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT DO WE DO?
WHAT DO WE DO WHEN PEOPLE TAKE NAKED PICTURES OF OTHER
PEOPLE AND PUT THEM ONLINE?
IS ANYTHING WE PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR?
I AM ON THE FENCE.
JAIL IS A PRETTY HARSH THING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I REALLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE GOING
AROUND TRYING TO BE PERSON TAKING PICTURES OF PEOPLE
AND PUTTING IT ONLINE.
THERE IS THE ONLINE THAT THEY ARE MAKING AN EXAMPLE OF
HER BECAUSE SHE IS A PUBLIC FIGURE.
SHE WAS A PLAYMATE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF INTERNET BACKLASH AND FUROR OVER THIS.
LA FITNESS BAND HER FOR LIFE FOR DOING THIS.
THAT MAKES PERFECT PERFECT SENSE.
THE ULTIMATE PUNISHMENT.
I BANNED MYSELF FROM LA FITNESS.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, THAT IS A WIN FOR HER.
IS LA FITNESS, IS THAT THE EQUIVALENT OF ONE IN NEW YORK?
I DON'T CARE.
DIFFERENT CHAIN.
IF THIS WAS SOMEBODY WHO DID THIS SAID MORE EXPLICITLY,
SEXUALLY PERVERTED WAY, I DON'T THERE WOULD BE ANY DOUBT
THAT YOU WOULD FACE SOME JAIL TIME.
SO IT DOES MATTER THAT THE EXTRANEOUS PART THAT'S NOT
TECHNICALLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW.
THAT I AM IN ACYL OR I AM A PERVERTED ACYL.
A PREDATOR.
YOU GUYS THINK THAT IS RELEVANT HERE?
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RELEVANT TO THE ACTUAL CRIME.
IN THE PUBLIC EYE IT IS.
OTHERWISE, MAYBE NOT.
IT'S FUNNY THAT WE ARE MAKING, WE THINK THAT MAYBE
THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION FOR THE DICKS.
WHO ARE JUST BEING DIXON NOT BEING PERVERT TAKES.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET TO GO TO PRISON FOR BEING UNPLEASANT.
THIS MAY RISE, THIS DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF VIOLATION, IT'S
CLEARLY A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY DIES PRISON TIME WARRANTED FOR?
RICKY KLEIN WHO WE HAD ON THE SHOW COUPLE OF TIME, SHE CBS
NEWS LEGAL ANALYST LIST.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT SHE MEANT TO
SHAME SOMEONE.
IF THAT'S THE NEVER THE CASE, YOU CAN BE
VILIFIED BY THE WORLD BUT YOU CAN BE SHAMING TO SOMEONE AND
NOW GO TO JAIL.
THIS IS FIRST AMENDMENT IN ACTION.
WE ARE
MOCKING DANI MATHERS.
SHALL BE OUT IN 12.
YOU CAN GIVE HER MAYBE
A DIFFERENT KIND OF DUMB DUMB
THAT.
WHAT THEY DID TO HIM WAS YOU ARE WHITE COLOR COLOR.
YOU ARE
ONE OF US THAT WERE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU REAL PRISON TIME.
HE
WOULD REPORT ON THE WEEKENDS AT NIGHT.
IT WAS LIKE A HOTEL.
BUT
HE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW UP TO PRISON TO SLEEP.
FOR NIGHTS.
HE WOULD GET ALREADY FOR IT AND HE HAD A RITUAL, HE WOULD
EAT A SUBWAY SANDWICH.
HE WAS A HARDENED GUIDE.
IT'S A BUNK
BED, YOU WERE GOING TO SLEEP IN A BUNK BED AND AN CREDIBLY LOW
SECURITY JAIL.
MAYBE YOU DO, SHE GOES TO PRISON IN A WAY LIKE
RICH PEOPLE DO, AT LEAST SHE WENT TO PRISON AND
COMMUNITY SERVICE AND A GIANT FINE.
GOING BACK TO THE PART THAT IS THE NUB, THE SHAMING AND
EMBARRASSMENT PART, SORRY YOU HATE SHAMING, THAT IS GOING TO
HER REPUTATION FAR MORE THAN I THINK 20 DAYS IN PRISON WOULD
BECAUSE SHE IS DONE.
THE PUBLIC DOES NOT LIKE HER NOW.
THEY
THINK SHE IS THAT AWFUL PERSON AS WE SAID EARLIER.
THERE IS NO
ONE DOING THAT.
SHE WILL HAVE NEW FANS THOUGH, THE ALL RIGHT WILL LOVE HER.
IF SHE EMBRACES IT, SHE WILL BE THERE QUEEN.
THE LAW THAT SHE IS GOING TO GET PROSECUTED UNDER IS THE
REVENGE PORN LAW.
IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT INTENT WAS.
I THINK
INTENT DOES MATTER.
I WOULDN'T BECOME TUBAL PUTTING HER IN
PRISON, BUT I THINK SHE SHOULD BE SHAMED.
YES THAT'S IT.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.
YEAH WE SHOULD SEE MORE NAKED PICTURES OF HER.
THAT WILL SHAME HER.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
WELL SHE IS A PLAYBOY PLAYMATE SO THEY ARE OUT THERE.
WHAT IS OUR VERDICT QUESTION DID SHE GO TO JOE?
IT'S UP TO YOU, DO CENTER TO JAIL FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME?
A LITTLE BIT.
MICHAEL, JAIL?
20 DAYS OUT OF 12.
DINESH, WEEKEND JAIL AND WHEN SHE GETS OUT,
I VOTE NO JAIL, BUT SHE IS PROBABLY GOING 20
DAYS, MAYBE 10 WEEKENDS.
IT'S CRAZY THAT YOU'RE SUCH A HILLARY FAN BUT YOU DON'T
SUPPORT THIS ANTI BODY SHAMING.