- I don't know how this has been for you.
I'm doing better than I think a lot of people,
and not for the reasons that everybody would think.
It's really because I am such an introvert,
and I know that's hard for a lot of people
believe because I made a living out of being an extrovert.
I'm an introvert with extrovert qualities,
so I know how to function in a world with other people.
But I am happiest when I can come back home and cocoon,
and that's where I find my strength.
That's how I restore.
That's how I-- you know?
So it's been a really introspective time for me.
Whatever feelings come up, I'm practicing
all of my Iyanla-fixed-my-life skills, you know?
IYANLA VANZANT: Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
But the thing is, Ms. O, we have to move out of the fear.
The fear is almost as deadly as the corona.
Almost as deadly because of what it's doing to people,
their bodies, their minds.
And that's what they're gonna take out back into the world.
The corona will be gone or treated or whatever,
but what they're gonna take back out into the world is the fear.
And what they don't know is that they brought
the fear into the quarantine with them,
the corona just triggered it up.
I call it the "corona."
[LAUGHS]
Yeah, OK, so the corona really exacerbated
or intensified and magnified, you're
saying, what was already there.
Oh, I can feel that as you're saying that.
That's why marriages are falling apart--
IYANLA VANZANT: Right.
--that were already-- had the seeds of falling apart.
So whatever was there just got magnified.
And you have to sit with it.
So now you have to stay home with self,
and that is so hard for people.
God has given us a universal timeout.
It's not just the timeout, but-- and the stillness,
it's also knowing what to do with what you find.
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo.
I think that's what people are afraid of.
Oh, I got that.
Because the fears that are coming up for people
are way beyond the corona.
And the fear is real.
It's real.
But see, the thing is to really understand
the origin of the fear.
Because the same way the corona has stopped us,
fear has stopped us.
But the way to heal yourself is to surrender.
Wow.
Surrender.
I surrender.
So that was a moment, right?
Letting go of the nails.
And then really even to process myself through,
but what do the nails mean?
And really, what we tell ourselves we have to have.
I was looking in my closet the other day
at all the shoes and the clothes and the pocketbooks
and the things that now don't mean a thing.
IYANLA VANZANT: Nothing.
Yeah, the only thing I'm really happy about now
is waist-up clothing.
[LAUGHTER]
OPRAH WINFREY: I actually put on pants for you today.
I'm normally in pajamas, but I put on actual real pants
for you.
I do the face, the hair, to the waist.
And what's on the bottom might scare you, but I got on jeans.
But see, the thing is that on the other side of this,
we're gonna need practical tools,
we're gonna need skills to be able to deal with this.
I'm real clear that this is a purging.
The spiritual meaning of it, you are clear on that?
IYANLA VANZANT: Absolutely.
Everything the world has come to worship has been taken--
money, fame, careers, everything the world worships.
All that idol stuff?
IYANLA VANZANT: That's right.
No idols.
You shall have no idols before me, no God.
And the stuff that we worship, it's all gone.
I don't even want us to call this a crisis.
I want us to help us get through this divine opportunity.
Whoa, OK.
And we open ourselves to some new possibilities.
Because, yes, what you call a thing--
I know you call a thing a thing, but what
you call a thing also determines how you see that thing.
That's right.
Well, you know, that is what you do is help people not just
recover from themselves, but to be delivered, not just get
better, but to be transformed.
I think that this is an opportunity for us all to reset
and you are the resetter.
[IYANLA LAUGHS]
But I wanted to call you because--
you know, my eyes water when I say this about you--
you have the gift.
And it has been a great joy to see
you use it with such sincerity and truth and power
over the years.
I have seen you literally lay your hands
on people who didn't even know they needed the hands laid on.
I've seen you talk to inmates.
I've seen you talk to fathers who were completely shut down.
I've seen you take pain and transform
it into the process of power.
We have to move out of the fear,
what it's doing to people, their bodies, their minds.
I was thinking about you and what you were
thinking about this moment.
What do you ultimately think it's here to teach us?
I think it's here to teach us, number one,
that we are all one.
It has equalized us.
It has brought us all, I don't want to say low,
but it has brought us all together.
So that's the number one thing.
Can I ask you, though, did you get some toilet paper?
I got some toilet paper.
[LAUGHTER]
I got the little rolls on the back.
I think the other thing it has taught
me is that my power and my strength is not in what I have
or what I do or what I own, it's within.
So I think it's come to level the playing field,
to get us clear about who we are, and what we value,
and then, I believe, it's gonna bring us all together
in a different way.
I can't tell you how pleased I am that you agreed to do this
for OWN, to do the thing that you do best in the world
is to help people see themselves and help people get
through this moment of crisis in a way
that they and we all can collectively come
out better on the other side.
And if I had to boil it all down,
the corona, the stay home, the job loss, the everything,
I would say, fear not.
There's something greater than you know going on here.
Let's tap into that so that we can move forward.
Thank you for that--
Deep bow to you.
--taking on this charge.
IYANLA VANZANT: Bye-bye.
Very cute from the top, very cute.
[LAUGHS] You, too.
Earrings, glasses, the whole thing,
eyelashes, the whole thing.
Cute from the top.
I put 'em on myself.
[LAUGHS] I know, I know.
Every time I have to do it, I'm like, oh god, these eyelashes.
Can you do it?
Well, I had to take these off three times, but OK.
Love you, girl.
OK, love you back.