howdy folks Kirk here with Kirk Giordano plastering, today what we're going to do is we're
going to put this back together so the fellow who owns the house here could put his ledger on
generally I've done a video of how why and where to place the ledger on the house itself complete
with Z flashings and then our counter flashing such as drip screens on here the fella wants to
put the ledger board on the outside put a couple spacers so he's going to use pressure-treated so
the water goes behind it we were set to just paper this and I said well gee whiz if you're going to
do that way at least let's go with the grace membrane that way when you lag bump that ledger
board into the studs here we're not just going through paper I prefer to go through a membrane
I just come here and so we pulled this piece off and because a threshold is a little beat up
meaning it's seen better days we're going to take this off here and then we're going to place up a
grace membrane on top of here and underneath then put that back then this grace is going to go over
this paper what we're also going to do and we'll show you how we do it is this stuff here this bike
or my car plus grace membrane calls it it works the same it works real well we're going to figure
out where the ledger board is going then we're going to place this so it comes up two inches
above the ledger and goes down two inches we're going to counter it with paper that way when they
do like bolt in it their lag bolting through this stuff here and it seals those lag bolts and yes I
have seen a leak I generally tell folks if it were me I'd put the ledger board directly on the house
but not everybody listens to old Kirk because I've been doing this 30 years and I've seen the
ledger boards go on top and I've seen them fail in 10-15 years so we don't want that that's why
I recommend it if you're going to do it man at least get the bike or let's put that down as a
membrane then you can lack bolt it all together so we're going to get started here we've got a
breakout as usual we got to put this membrane down and I'll show you as we get to that stage
okay guys we are at the stage where I'm going to go ahead and place this bike or guess grace
makes bike for now they here's where they had their ledger board originally there's a six
inch ledger board I advise them to get one one foot of this because we want three inches above
and three inches below so this point here has got to be where the ledger board starts and depending
on the width of it far as I know they might go with an eighth inch which will be about down
here we've got to cover this paper and we got to allow room for would have deck material I've seen
guys put Ledger's on here and then I said fellas when you put your wood on it the doors knocking
open so remember that I've seen it happen okay granted their Ledger's going to go about right
here now now that we got all this paper done here I just stuck some 4/4 to fiber right here and over
here on this old windows that 80 year old house so this grace membrane as a ell flashing now what I'm
going to do is I'm going to peel and stick this stuff here this stuff does take a little bit of
time to do but it's well worth it because it will seal everything now we're going to get it started
now I'm going to use that wood there as a template and if it was a hot Sun right now this stuff would
stick to everything it's a real drag that you do it in a hot Sun but just for an example let's see
I'm gonna go about right here and since I'm doing it by myself because Jays holding the camera see
this stuff sticks to everything oh let's get going here we go the idea how difficult this stuff is
to work with in the shade and the Sun nightmare trying to get these bubbles out all right there
we go Jay's gonna put the camera down and help me in a minute but I want to give you an idea
what we're doing with this stuff again I advise you guys try putting this stuff on in the hot Sun
I have put at least 20 bucks there's stuff on and we're talking about three foot buck it's always a
nightmare to try to do it in the Sun it's tough enough in the shade where you have a pipe like
this you just break out your knife cut around it then go over here this this way when they place
that ledger board it should be about right here we're a couple inches above it and we're a couple
inches below it and then we're going to go ahead and continue with the bite court from here over
this membrane and to the edge right there I just figured I'd do one little piece to show you how
it should be done all right guys now that Jason and I got the bike or where we want it and yeah
I was right the homeowners here Jason and he's putting on this trim piece asked him what size
he's using 8 inch so we figure about right here to here so we're above and below that way his
deck material can go here now what I'm doing now is and by the way somebody might say why don't you
pay for everything and then put the bike the bike or on top because all the greats products and I
know this from 20 years ago the rep came out said guys you're supposed to put the grace on the wood
and overlap the paper that's why we're doing it this way because it's specifically engineered
to go over the wood and on top of the paper so one of those technicalities we follow all those
technicalities all right now what we're doing is we're going underneath the existing paper so for
example a using two layers two layers spot glued together and what I generally do is I'll take it
here and I'll fish it under until it hits a nail sometimes then go under like six to eight inches
that's okay that's what we want pop a couple staples there and we take this paper and so on
cut it here and we continue with that process we overlap hours by six to eight inches and we
just keep fishing it up and we go underneath the existing paper on top of our bike or or
grace whatever product we're using at the time so we're going to continue that here alright guys we
are complete what I generally do I find my studs into that I'm going to turn this gun off because
I usually drown final thing we do is we put this nasty Sikaflex polyurethane caulking in key areas
such as windows around here at the tops of windows around this pipe over here even though we have our
grace membrane on top we put the caulking here things that the fella who owns this property just
left forgot to tell him put your threshold on and give us a lip so we can stop the stuff but he'll
do that another day and then we just all notice this it got to be done tight for me to have missed
it to begin with looks like when they put this door in they've put the stucco here over the wood
with no paper so let's he built a deck he's going to rip this part out again we're going to come
back and redo this because there's just papers and so all we can do is the best we can with
what we have to work with so we put a little bit of all your thing caulking around there a little
bit here and any of you folks that says hey heck with with Kirk says as far as that membrane goes
prior to doing the ledger to each his own but I definitely recommend this bedroom take me another
ten minutes to tell your stories of people who put Ledger's on stucco without the grace membrane
behind how many you have leaks so we just don't like to do it anyway hope you learn something
from this and how to do the ledgers correctly if you're going to go over stucco my name is Kirk
I'm with kirk giordano plastering thank you folks for watching and as usual see you on the next one.