>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NEXT GUEST IS A GRAMMY-WINNING ACTOR
YOU KNOW FROM "HAMILTON," "GLEE," AND "FROZEN."
HE NOW STARS IN NETFLIX'S "MINDHUNTER."
PLEASE WELCOME JONATHAN GROFF!
( APPLAUSE ) ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> Stephen: NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
>> SO NICE TO SEE YOU, TOO.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.
>> Stephen: THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE IT WAS A DIFFERENT
WORLD.
IT WAS DECEMBER OF 2015.
>> CORRECT.
>> Stephen: GETTING ON TWO YEARS LATER.
HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?
>> I'VE BEEN GOOD.
>> Stephen: YOU LEFT "HAMILTON" SINCE THEN.
YOU WERE FAMOUSLY KING GEORGE III IN "HAMILTON."
HUGE KING GEORGE FANS TONIGHT.
>> HUGE KING GEORGE FANS.
>> Stephen: DO YOU MISS IT?
NOW YOU'RE DOING THIS GREAT TV SHOW "MINDHUNTER" THAT EVERYBODY
SAYS IS SO GREAT ON NETFLIX.
BUT AFTER YOU FINISH SHOOTING, IT'S NOT LIKE "HAMILTON," AND
YOU DON'T GO BACK TO YOUR DRESSING ROOM AND BEYONCE IS
WAITING THERE.
IT WAS, RIGHT?
I TALKED TO THE CAST MEMBERS THEY'D BE LIKE, "OH, MY GOD,
BARACK OBAMA IS IN MY DRESSING ROOM."
DO YOU MISS THAT?
>> IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID IN "HAMILTON," WE WOULD HAVE ALL
THESE FAMOUS PEOPLE COMING BACK AFTER THE SHOW.
AND EVEN AS KING GEORGE, I WAS ONLY ON STAGE FOR NINE MINUTES.
>> Stephen: NINE GOOD MINUTES.
>> NINE GOOD MINUTES, BUT IT WAS A VERY SOCIAL EXPERIENCE PER ME.
THE CAST WOULD COME IN, WE WOULD HANG --
>> Stephen: YOU GOT TO HANG BACKSTAGE.
WHILE THEY'RE ALL RAPPING YOUR HEARTS OUT--
>> I'M THE WHITE DUDE, JUST CHILLING IN THE BACKGROUND.
( LAUGHTER ) AND THEN-- AND THEN "MINDHUNTER"
WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
I WAS LIVING IN PITTSBURGH, AND WE HAD GREAT, LONG HOURS OF
SHOOTING, AND THEN I WOULD JUST KIND OF COME HOME AND EAT A
PIECE OF GRILLED CHICKEN, LEARN MY LINES AND GO TO SLEEP.
SO IT WAS TOTALLY OPPOSITE BUT I REALLY ENJOYED IT.
>> Stephen: THAT'S A GLAMOROUS HOLLYWOOD LIFE.
GRILLED CHICKEN AND GO BACK TO SLEEP.
>> IT WAS GREAT TO GO FROM SUCH A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF WORK-- NINE
MINUTES TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS "MINDHUNTER."
>> Stephen: LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT "HAMILTON."
DID YOU EVER GO BACKSTAGE AND SAY, "I DON'T WANT TO BE WITH A
FAMOUS PERSON RIGHT NOW.
WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY?
"I'M GLAD YOU LIKED THE SHOW?" WAS IT EVER AWKWARD.
>> NO.
>> Stephen: YOU LIKED IT WHEN PEOPLE VISITED YOU BACKSTAGE?
>> YEAH, IT'S SUCH AN HONOR, ESPECIALLY FAMOUS PEOPLE AND
ARTISTS AND POLITICIANS AND ALL THESE PEOPLE YOU ADMIRED COMING
BACKSTAGE.
>> Stephen: WHO IS THE LEAST LIKELY PERSON WHO CAME AND SAID
I HAD?
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN "LEAST LIKELY?"
>> Stephen: SOMEONE WHO WOULDN'T BE COMING BACKSTAGE AT
A BROADWAY SHOW.
>> GOOD QUESTION.
>> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW., LIKE STEPHEN HAWKING.
I JUST DON'T SEE HIM COMING BACKSTAGE TO LIKE, YOU KNOW,
SAY, "YOU WERE FANTASTIC.
I'M SUCH A FAN BOY."
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE THERE WERE NONE.
MAYBE IT WAS ALL THAT MAIX SENSE TO ME.
>> ALL OF THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES CAME.
>> Stephen: ALL THE ONCE.
>> THEY SAT IN THE FRONT ROW.
THEY ACTUALLY WON THE LOTTERY.
>> Stephen: THAT'S FANTASTIC.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT WAS INTERESTING, IS "HAMILTON" WAS
SUCH AN MEMORY EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE, SO THE THING THAT WAS
COMPLICATED AT THE END WAS YOU HAD TO HANDLE PEOPLE COMING BACK
JUST SOBBING.
YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE-- AND YOU WERE SORT OF CONTAINING, SO THAT
WAS KIND OF THE JOB OF POSTSHOW WAS CONTAINING PEOPLE'S EMOTION
S.
>> Stephen: THERE WAS THE SOBBING AND PEOPLE COMING IN
SAYING, "WHY AM I CRYING ALEXANDER HAMILTON."
I WAS COMPLETELY MOVED.
I DID NOT EXPECT TO GET HERE FROM THE GUY ON THE 10?
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
NOW YOU'RE DOING "MINDHUNTER."
YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT "MINDHUNTER" IS.
>> YEAH, SURE.
>> Stephen: WHAT ARE YOU HUNTING WITH YOUR MIND?
( LAUGHTER ) IN THE SHOW.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
IT'S BASED ON A BOOK BY JOHN DOUGLAS CALLED "MY.
IT'S DAVID FINCHER'S NEW NETFLIX SERIES.
THE BIRTH OF ROFILING IN THE 70.
>> WHAT KIND OF PERSON IS THIS, AND BY DOING THIS FORENSIC
PSYCHOLOGY ON THIS PERSON, KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR
MOTIVATIONS ARE AND CATCH THEM THAT WAY.
>> EXACTLY.
MY CHARACTER HOLDEN IS INSPIRED BY JOHN DOUGLAS WHO HAD THIS
IDEA IN THE LATE 70s TO GO INTO THESE JAIL CELLS AND
INTERVIEW THESE INCARCERATED CRIMINALS TO SEE IF THEY CAN
GLEAN INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR MOTIVATIONS AND THEIR THOUGHTS
AND THEIR FEELINGS BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THEIR MURDERS
TO HELP PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING.
IT WAS KIND OF THE BIRTH OF THE BEHAVIORAL SCIENCE UNIT AND
CRIMINAL PROFILING AS WE KNOW IT.
>> Stephen: THE THING IS THAT IT'S-- THE SHOW IS GREAT.
IT'S A BIT OF A SURPRISE TO SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK OF YOU AS A
BROADWAY MUSICAL STAR AND NOT AS A DRAMATIC ACTOR.
HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF TRYING TO BRING THOSE TWO WORLDS
TOGETHER, MAYBE DRAMATIC ACTING AND BROADWAY MUSIC AT THE SAME
TIME?
>> YEAH, IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE DAVID FINCHER, WHO IS OUR
GENIUS, THE SHOW RUNNER OF OUR SHOW AND OUR DIRECTOR, HE'S
FAMOUS MOSTLY FOR BEING A FILM DIRECTOR.
AND THEN HE REVOLUTIONIZED ENTERTAINMENT THROUGH TELEVISION
WITH NETFLIX, THROUGH "HOUSE OF CARDS" AND NOW "MINDHUNTER."
AND HE AND I BECAME REALLY CLOSE ON THE SET IN PITTSBURGH DOING
"MINDHUNTER."
AND HE ACTUALLY TALKED A LOT ABOUT HIS DESIRE TO BREAK INTO
THEATER AND TO MUSICAL THEATER.
AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN COLLABORATING OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF WEEKS ON DEVELOPING "MINDHUNTER" INTO A MUSICAL FOR
BROADWAY.
>> Stephen: WOW.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHERE ARE YOU IN THE PROCESS?
IS THERE ANY WAY I COULD HEAR SOME OF THAT?
>> WELL, IT'S EARLY WORKSTOP STAGES.
BUT, ACTUALLY, JON HAS BEEN THERE WITH US.
HE'S HELPING US DEVELOP THE MUSIC.
SO I DON'T KNOW, WE COULD DO THE --
>> Stephen: I KNOW WHAT THIS IS.
YOU GUYS WORKED THIS OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: AND I WAS WITH YOU ALSO WHEN WE REHEARSED?
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
>> SHOULD WE WORKSHOP IT?
>> Stephen: SURE, LET'S WORKSHOP IT RIGHT NOW.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE NOW PRESENT AN EARLY WORKSHOP OF
"MINDHUNTER: THE MUSIC."
>> DAVID FINCHER, THIS IS FOR YOU.
>> ♪ THEY CALL ME THE MINDHUNTER THE MURDERER CONFRONTER
♪ I HUNT THE MINDS OF MEN WHO WON'T ATONE
♪ BUT WAY DOWN DEEP WITHIN ME THOUGH KILLERS WANT TO SKIN ME
♪ THE MIND I'M REALLY HUNTING IS MY OWN
♪ BUT I'LL HUNT THOSE MINDS I WILL CATCH THE KILLERS
>> ♪ BECAUSE HE'S THE STAR OF A NETFLIX THRILLER
>> ♪ FROM CANNIBALISM PERPETRATORS
>> ♪ TO FAMILY MEMBER DECAPITATORS
>> ♪ I WON'T STOP UNTIL I HUNT ALL THE
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS! ♪
>> Stephen: YEAH!
"MINDHUNTER" IS ON NETFLIX NOW.
JONATHAN GROFF, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.