Welcome back to SwissWatchExpo.
This is Taking Time.
I'm Richard, I'm Jonathan.
And today we got sort of an interesting topic.
I'm sure you can see in the video, on the picture that there's some watches that you
don't normally see.
So stick around, we'll tell you why we got them.
Hi, welcome back.
And today we're talking about, we're going to call it entry-level watches.
In our opinion, in our opinion.
So there's, this has been a controversial topic between me and Jonathan.
We've been trying our hardest to figure out what entry-level watches mean.
We were having a heated discussion for a little while.
You know, if you guys, if you recall about two videos back, if they can put that on the
screen, maybe two, you can see that about two videos back.
We had an argumentative piece where he was talking about the Tudor, and I was talking
about the Omega, and we were going back and forth to figure out who was best, which which
watch had, which one was best.
In the back office, before we come out and do the videos, I can tell you that the arguments
are much more heated.
They're not nearly as professionals that are in the video.
We really go to town on these things.
And again, we were saved by Miss Penny who gave us sort of an idea.
And so if you're unfamiliar with Ms. Penny, Ms. Penny is the unicorn of SwissWatchExpo,
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So Jonathan, entry-level watches.
Why are we starting with this?
How do we get to this?
And what are we considering the entry-level pieces?
Well, I think it's really kind of a few things.
It's, well, it's not just the price point.
You know, these are all very reasonably priced.
You know, you can get most of these for under $5,000, which is a lot of money for a lot
of people, me, myself, included.
It's more for what they offer.
You know, it's a little bit of the movements, a little bit of the aesthetics.
It's, you know, the overall quality it's just geared towards really individuals that are
looking to get their first high quality piece that, you know, they don't know much about
the whole Swiss watch industry.
They don't know much about the brands.
These are all just generic, you know, safe bets that, you know, anybody can take that
doesn't know anything about watches that you can, for the most part, you know, dive in
and have a good investment for the money.
It's going to last a long time.
Yeah.
And we went back and forth on whether or not we were going to do like entry-level pieces
per brand.
So again, miss penny saved us.
And what she's essentially suggested is for us to do, you know, good intro brand pieces
or entry-level watches and so to speak, and then perhaps an additional video of going
into the higher end pieces and getting into an entry-level piece for like JLC, Vacheron,
and stuff like that.
So what that'll look like, and we'll do that next time.
That's going to be fun for us.
So we're going to, we're going to do that next video.
So stick around for the next video.
And you'll, you'll be able to check that out.
So so here's the ones we've chosen so far.
We have we have a number of them.
It's some of them you don't typically see some of them you're pretty, you know, you're
probably very familiar with you know, you've probably heard of Omega.
You've probably heard of Breitling maybe you haven't heard of Bell and Ross?
Maybe you haven't heard of Baume and Mercier.
Maybe you haven't heard about IWC.
So where do you want to start today.
Let's just go this way.
So start at the top.
So Richard and I both used to work for an authorized dealer that did sell Bell and Ross.
Yeah.
I like this Richard picked it.
I think it's really like a perfect kind of entry level piece.
I agree.
It's solid quality, you know, never really had any issues with this brand.
They started out pretty unique in the watch world because they're more geared towards
kind of given that aesthetic of, you know, being in a cockpit, right.
They have a super legible dial.
And again, you know, they're using a Sellita type movement, which is essentially, you know,
besides pretty much copying the ETA movement.
Right.
It's a solid movement.
I mean, as long as you take care of it, you're not throwing around, you know, that's going
to last you a long time and it's what like $3,000.
Actually.
I think it's less than that.
It's be well invested.
It's a good, solid, it's a good solid piece.
And, you know, like Jonathan was saying, it's, it's a very legible dial if you, I mean, you
really stare at that as, I mean, you can't not know the time.
Yeah.
And I think the date is one of the best in the industry as far as how it's executed.
Right.
You know, it's just so kind of like off the beaten path, that's not in your face, like
some watches.
All right.
Yeah.
And you know, I,
As much as we love Rolex, the Cyclops Lends sometimes gets in the way of viewing the time.
So I do like the idea that it's, you know, if I want to see it, I can still see it as
legible, but it's not, you know, like I said, it's not very obtrusive and you know, it's
just a good, solid, and you get a bracelet piece for...
Ours is going for $2,400 bucks or something like that.
Solid bracelet.
I mean, some, some watch brands out there, you know, they give you a bracelet, but yeah,
falls part and you don't really have to worry about the flex on this one.
Do you?
In like two years, you're uncomfortable.
You're not wearing the watch and sooner or later you're going to turn around and sell
it.
This is comfortable.
It's sturdy.
It's solid.
I agree.
And let's go to the Breitling, I guess.
So this was some might not consider Breitling to be an entry-level watch or brand, so to
speak, but this supervision, we definitely think is like, this is, this is where I think
this is where Breitling kind of intends for you to walk into them, get to know them a
little bit.
Yeah.
Especially this being, it's the, I think this is the first generation of Superocean.
Yeah.
It's got the white date wheel.
So this is a first-generation Superocean, not the newer Superocean Heritage II, and
use a, you know, a third party movement, a Sellita based movement that Breitling would
just decorate.
Right.
I mean, it's a very generic, straightforward time and date watch again, you know, but it's
200 meters of water resistance and it looks pretty, you know, you can take this, you know,
out on a date, you've got you know, what, dive bezel here that doesn't have all the
numbers and everything.
So it's very straight forward, a nd we're taking this one on a date so we can time the
escape or something, right.
Going on a double date or something.
I don't, I like, I liked the mesh bracelet.
You give it this one as well.
So I mean, it's different.
It is different.
You don't see it.
What you're usually seeing is these like three link, construction style, oyster style bracelets.
And with this, you get something completely unique.
Something that is very visible to the naked eye and people can see that this is something
that's a little out of the ordinary.
So you're you still coming in with a very, very modest entry-level watch, but something
that is still going to let you just kind of set yourself apart from everyone else.
It's less than $4,000.
I mean, you can't be that either.
I mean, the price point is good.
All right.
Now we've got, we're going to go to the Omega.
I think we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about Omega a but, but this is where we had our
biggest day, man, what did we fight anyways?
Yeah.
We came to the conclusion that the Aqua Terra is especially the older generation.
It's just one of those watches that nobody, it really talks about.
It is true.
Yeah.
That's true.
I mean, you get a lot of phone calls for the Seamaster.
You hear the Speedmaster all the time, but I mean, and going with the styling of this,
this is it's a nice dress watch.
It's again, it's very readable to the everyday everyday wear watch, you know?
And you see the Aqua Terra, you know, like you said, it's not quite as popular, but it
is still it's, it's still an entry-level piece.
I mean, we're looking at this, you know, being under $4,000 for us, for our price point here
and you know, you get Omega and, you know, the thing me and Jonathan were kind of going
about was whether or not this in the Omega would be better suited for like the entry-level
watch, sheerly because of the price point or whether or not it was like, this is more
of an intermediate brand.
And we kind of see it in, in that intermediate brand realm.
But any of these brands, too, offer those types of listings, it's just like the overall
brand of Omega, I felt like is more of a higher kind of tier type watch.
Yeah.
Well, we did agree that if we're going to kind of go with the entry-level for Omega,
the Aqua Terra is the right fit.
Yeah.
We get a lot for your money.
You get the coaxial movement, you know, the
Dr. Daniels invented the escapement, which is one of the best on the market.
And the finishing, especially for the coaxial pieces is, you know, got a very unique, very
unique type finishing.
And you get an excellent exhibition case back with this, you get Omega quality, you know,
it's one of the best out there for, especially, you know, this entry level price point, right.
You know, the bracelet again, solid sturdy construction.
It's comfortable.
I used to wear something similar.
I used to wear a Railmaster.
I love that one blue dial.
I love that.
So let's go to, I don't know.
I kind of feel like ending on IWC.
So let's talk about the Baume Mercier.
Okay.
Everything about this, watch screams value, everything about it.
Yeah.
But
I think we need to expose why, cause Baume Mercier, is not really you're right.
Like they were there.
They are like known once you get into watches, but this is not, this is not known.
And you know, if you, if I was to tell you what you get out of this, watch is an in-house
five day power reserve movement for under $5,000.
We're looking at a chronometer.
So the dial has the cross on it that signifies that it's chronometer.
And it's five days powers reserve.
To get the same stuff in another watch, you're gonna have to spend at least eight to $10,000
minimal.
Right.
It's just a phenomenal buy.
I mean, you know, even for ours, I think this is, I don't know if it's another one conditioner
if it's mint, but it's in this case, it's about as good as you can possibly ask for.
It looks like it just came off the factory floor.
And is it thin.
It does, you know, whereas it's not as chunky on the wrist.
It does work nice and low and it's a good millimeter size.
What do you remember?
This one?
Remember the millimeter size?
This one, definitely talking about the, yeah, the middle of the case.
I think it's 38 38.
Okay.
So you guys know, let us know if you guys know it for sure, but let us know in the comments,
but I think you're probably right.
It just came out like a couple of years ago.
Yeah.
Two, three years ago.
Yeah.
So that's a relatively new watch and
I think we were still working.
We were at the authorized dealer when that, when they, when they brought that out.
So just a phenomenal bang for the buck.
And you get, you also get your exhibition case back.
So I don't know if you guys can see that, but yeah, that's pretty slick.
So very nice strap.
Yeah.
Gorgeous thing.
And now I never see you lead the way.
So I think IWC fits into this category with the Pilot's watch, not the Pilot's chronograph,
but the Pilot Mark XVI and above.
You know, it's just again, it's a straightforward watch, highly legible dial.
Before, like up until I think it was last year, you know, they were using Sellita based
movements.
So you're getting another, you know, again, the workhorse of the Swiss watch industry,
right.
It's literally like carrying the entire team on the back, IWC included you know, screw
down crown.
And the water resistance?
It's an odd 60.
It's not 50, it's not a hundred.
It's 60.
Maybe a pool.
It's a satin finished case.
You don't get a see-through case back on this or an exhibition case back.
But I mean, it's just, I mean, it screams entry-level to me.
Yeah.
Like you said, it's kind of, it's, it's a very, it's a very
basic piece.
It's not, it's got, it's got all the things you need for a watch.
It keeps excellent time and it comes from a very prestigious brand.
I mean, I'm not a lot of people talk about IWC is being right.
I mean, you may, you may look at IWC and not even know you could get into IWC for the price
point, because, you know, you may be looking at their page and they're popping up, you
know, International Watch Company, and it's got a big pilot perpetual.
Right.
And it's comes to money.
Yeah.
$32,000 watch.
It's just like, oh, okay,
Well I'll keep something.
It's like $5,000.
Yeah.
Great.
It's a good entry level piece.
Again.
I really like anything that's on a NATO strap or a stitch strap.
I just really think that's a cool, cool.
Yeah.
It gives us the tool kind of watch.
It
does.
I mean, I can just imagine that the pilot wearing this before they get in the cockpit
and places, it's just a neat, it's a, it's a really neat buy for again, for an entry
level piece.
Yeah.
So of course, we've got to do the same thing we always do.
What's your favorite?
No, I'm really torn this time.
Like, it's kinda like, I think I'm going to have to go with the IWC.
Okay.
Because it's just a, and it's got that fauxtina too.
I do.
It's just something about it.
It's 39 millimeters, 40 millimeters.
And then it's kind of just got that satin finish.
I'm not one for polished surfaces because I scratch it.
That's why I love the Railmasters so much, but anyway, that's a different medium.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I liked that a lot more and it's got a matching green needles just like this.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with,
I mean, I'm kind of torn because if you guys have seen the Starbucks video with one where
we were talking about the green dial, I mean, the green bezel green dial Rolexes, you know,
that I'm all for a really strong power reserve.
So that really puts me towards the Baumatic, and I love the value they get out of it.
But honestly, I don't know what it is.
I really like the Bell and Ross, I love the, I just love the, again, we're talking about
fauxtina on this one.
Obviously it's, it's meant to be, then have that brownish hue to it.
And it's just a very readable watch looking at it from the distance.
Everything's very visible.
I mean, the bracelet, you can see it really well.
And I actually kinda liked the bigger dial with the smaller bezel.
I like the dynamics of that, makes it kinda feel bigger.
It does.
Versus, you know, I think what was it you can get, you can look at a 36 millimeter Rolex
versus a 36 millimeter Omega, and then I'll make it look smaller because the bezels and
their dial is smaller.
So in this case, the same thing you're talking about it does make it feel bigger.
And I got a large, I got the big old hunk and hands.
So this one fits a little bit better on the wrist.
That's, that's my choice.
What's your choice.
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