a twenty eight-year-old man in florida is facing murder charges after he
tricked his girlfriend into taking the abortion pill when she was six weeks
pregnant
this is such an
unbelievable stories she got pregnant she was happy about it you want to have
a child but he did not and he was adamant about it
uh... so at one point as she wasn't feeling well she decide to go to the
doctor and it turns out that
his father is a fertility doctor
so that she does over their and that he says it all turns out you have uh... a
bacterial infection on their right to a prescription for a marxist ellen so he
does
but unfortunately the woman did not know that her boyfriend change the label on
prescription bottle and replace the pills
with abortion sells also she
took the pills thinking that it was a lots of selling and that she knows that
she was bleeding she does the doctor and she finds out on my god unrestricted to
taking the abortion become remnants of remnants of the drugs m
that's obviously it's correct that exit massive abuse of trust lengthening
there's no
there's no better way to a through in these picnicking ever person to make
that sort of decision for someone and the thing is so we're gonna get into the
hole like the possibility that the reason we charge murder yeah obviously
gets into uh... political mine field right there of the gets a hold of the
horrible dot i mean i think this is is worse than so many other crimes are much
more common and i hope that he is part of justice in regard absolutely is name
is john and joe weld and there's absolutely no question that he should
face prosecution
it is facing federal charges
uh... but no when it comes to the question of murder i'm a little
i don't know indecisive on that
because
there is a lot it's referred to as the protection of unborn children act and it
states that if someone intentionally parts a woman
in order to cause her to have an abortion
that he can
but he or she can be charged with murder right but the same time it's a fetus
that six weeks old
if we don't have personal colosio that a fetus is
on human life and independence human life of constitutional rights
then how come we have this weird double standard here and duets purpose of it
but yes it right to have a first step at a personable
maybe and maybe but i think there's also this issue let's say that a woman is
murdered
and and
we find out that she had a fetus inside of her should that be a double murder
charge
and and and think that day
there are examples of people being charged with double murder
the issue here i think is that it's a women's right to choose issue and if the
woman has chosen
that she wants to have that child
taking that choice away from her
is different than women choosing not to have a child
and you know aborting that that
intentionally
maybe person had
i don't know i mean it doesn't happen in a part-time workers and read
could be linked to
the woman's choice of whether or not she identifies that fetus as being a
potential child
or as being an unwanted pregnancy i think that this is p great argument for
conservatives who want to uh... make abortion illegal because b
they can use this as an example unwed first why why do we have double standard
in our losses so what what is in fact in this particular case you treat the fetus
is a human life
but when it comes to the right to choose you don't care so what we can choose to
do it and it's okay
but if someone and by late assignments via issue though because when we talk
about choice we always talk about the choice to abort that when we said choice
were actually talking to options for women
i know what you're saying that we want to be able to choose to have a life also
but in one case you're trading dot the is as life in another case you're
treating it as well it's not by blood samples so women can choose to afford it
you see what i think that you can accomplish the same goal
all without this dangerous potentially slippery slope
serve argument towards person ethic let sutera makes a great poets it's about
consent it's about taking away for a free will it's his legacy like this
might be dangerous iran
not so let me clarify something i'm not saying like a shoot like eleven twelve
aa set against federal charge but i think you know charges should be a
dealer charges and saying that they shouldn't be it should be something else
i don't know what is needed something totally new but it's like the difference
between consentual sex and rape
in crime isn't sex necessarilly it's the taking away of the woman's free well
guess what you need to criminalize sex to get rid of rape in all that you need
to make the the fetus of human being to criminalize forced abortions right
issues just yet what what is the punishment if if we can call it
something specific about taking away a woman's right to choose you know
uh... if you don't call it murder you call it something out and so long as the
punishment eight has equivalency their acting as a lot of people feel that it's
a fair punishment
going by what you're saying right there i think that
these sorts of those prodding sponsored by conservatives pins they see it
i would assume as a as a medium term road towards a person and that or
something like that
until they have a strong case is there a lot like this are young it's like that
if this is worded like that but if we do it the wave karen i've been talking
about the very wealthy democrats sponsoring bills
they're not enshrined in the person who did the baby to enshrine
the right of a woman to choose if the crime forced abortion and that actually
leads to perhaps a stronger case for a woman's right to choose rather than the
refund and i think that such an important point to make i know you want
to move on but just like what you were saying
whenever i say that i a m pro-choice i'm talking about pro-choice are not talking
about pro abortion
people don't want to have abortions i've never met one person who's had to suffer
through that was that what a great abortion i just had i was so happy to
have that abortion people don't want to have to make that choice but they want
the choice available if they needed but were also talking about protecting a
woman's right to have a baby if she wants to have actually