- All right, Sean. (upbeat funky music)
They just announced the new Honda Civic SI.
I don't know if you know this but,
me and my fiance have a Honda Civic SI,
so it's kind of a big deal! - Oh, I know! I drove it.
I kinda liked it.
- Oh, that's right.
Okay!
So let's hop into this 2022
and it looks,
I haven't seen much,
but it looks very different from the tenth gen.
- Does it?
- So we got the video from Honda here,
and let's take a peak.
- Honda.
- Honda, Honda, Honda.
All right, orange.
So there's a bunch of details on the screen.
I think we're gonna stop and go back
and look at some of that.
I seen 200 horsepower.
- Whoa!
That's a little rip around there, isn't it?
- Yeah. - Not like yours has,
205? - Yeah.
That looks like five horsepower less,
which is kind of interesting.
Usually as you move up,
you continue to make horsepower gains,
unless you're Subaru,
then you just kind of go up and down, up and down.
- Especially for the money for the car, but.
- Okay. But looking at it, I don't,
the rear, I don't think is bad.
I like, they went away from the HTMI port exhaust
and just went to dual tips.
- I don't know. I feel like it's really accordion.
- It's very accordion.
- And it looks big.
It is bigger. (accordion playing)
They said it's bigger.
They're pretty happy that it's bigger.
They're like, this is our biggest Civic ever!
- In my opinion, (chiming)
it doesn't look more sporty.
That's for sure.
They definitely got rid of the sharp edges
of the 10th generation.
Really smoothed this one out a lot.
So I'm seeing max power, 200 horsepower.
Max torque, 192.
- Which is the same.
- Pounds of torque.
Transmission, okay,
cool to see that they're keeping it manual.
- I think it's manual.
I'm 99.9% sure it's manual only for the SI.
- Okay. That's cool.
I appreciate that.
Okay, now some of the interior here.
- What is that?
Is that carbon?
- Rev match control.
- Dang!
- Okay. - Yes.
- Front, sport, bucket seats.
- Whoa! - All the speaker boasts.
- The seat?
- Why, it looks like they put a front grill in the car.
- It looks pretty modern though.
When I think Civic,
I always think stripped down.
It's got carbon fiber.
It's got a shiny shift knob,
an electric parking brake.
It's got a screen.
- You're really churching this thing up.
It doesn't look that drastically changed
from the 10th gen, to be honest with you,
except for this huge grill
that just goes for the entirety of the car.
- The Civic in general,
that seems kind of not like a bad place to be.
- They took the touchscreen that was in the dash
and then just made it pop out of the dash.
Kinda like the Suberon,
honestly, like my car. - That's luxurious.
- I wasn't a huge fan of the infotainment system
on the tenth gen Civic.
It's buggy.
It's kind of clunky.
My specific year,
tenth gen Civic SI,
does not have a volume control knob,
which was a sin in itself.
- I was just gonna bring that up.
It looks like have the physical buttons here
setting the climate controls.
- Yeah, which is good.
That's a good move.
Touchscreens,
when you add a touch screen to a car,
doesn't mean you have to put everything on the car,
on the touch screen.
- I just need volume knob. - Makes it a nightmare.
- And HVAC controls on the.
- Yeah, physical buttons are okay. They're okay.
And they're more timeless in my opinion.
Now again, the rear end, I don't think looks bad.
- Look at that spoiler. - Yeah,
it's got a little spoiler.
There's obviously gonna be
a ton of aftermarket support for this.
I just, I'm not a huge fan of this stubby nose,
flat faced, - Yeah.
- rounded off.
- The proportions are kind of weird.
It almost looks like.
- The roof line's really tall, right?
- It's trying to inflate itself to be bigger than it is
to say they're bigger,
but I don't know if bigger is better,
but if they think it is.
I don't know.
I'm not in love with it.
- I, that's the thing for me too is I just,
I want to like it,
but I don't know. - 'Cause I started to like
the tenth gens. - Yeah!
- Especially after I drove yours,
but this just isn't doing it for me yet.
- I really liked the sharp, aggressive lines of the 10 gen.
This is a lot more modest.
But knowing that there's gonna be
a ton of aftermarket support is huge.
Now, how do you think this will pair up against like,
the new Integra?
- I don't think it will.
It's 200 horsepower.
I guess we don't know what the entirety of it's power is.
- We don't know the Integra is.
- I would imagine.
- I did see four door pictures though of the interior.
I haven't seen two-door coupe pictures.
I'm assuming there'll be a two-door coupe
for the SI as well, don't you think?
- For the Civic SI? - Yeah.
- I think they said sedan only.
- Oh, really? - They were cutting.
- Oh! - Yeah.
That's why I thought the Integra was gonna be a coupe
because I'm like, oh, perfect.
- Interesting. - I'm confused.
It doesn't look bad.
It's not a bad looking car.
- It just,
the front end. - Doesn't feel,
Civic SI to me.
- Maybe the front end will grow on me,
but it like,
I don't know the top of the hood just like sharp cuts down
and then it's like, flat on the front.
- It's got a weird forehead
that sticks out before the grill too,
which is. - Yeah.
That's what's throwing it off.
I don't mind how it looks from the rear,
but I am sad to hear that it's five horsepower less.
Like, I don't know why Honda didn't take the opportunity
to put a little bit more power in this one.
- I would imagine some sort of emissions,
but yeah, that's weird. - 'Cause in my opinion,
the SI should be competing with like the STE,
the GTIs,
things like that.
Well, I guess that ST is done in the states.
- Yeah.
- So not as much competition,
but even GTIs are pooping all over this.
- The GTI is expensive.
- That's true.
But I'm willing to pay a little bit more
to get a little bit more power.
- Yeah, for sure.
40, 50 more horsepower.
Arguably better interior.
- But I guess,
I mean, that's what the Type R's for, right.
But I mean, that's 40. - Yeah.
Yeah, I guess it depends where they price this thing.
Honestly, I think right now, Civic SI starts at like 26.
If they can keep this under that 28,
I think people are gonna buy it anyway,
regardless of the power,
just 'cause it's an enthusiast daily driver
that's manual only.
- I feel like Honda's playing the Nintendo game.
Hear me out. - A thousand percent.
- There's PlayStation, X-Box
trying to put the craziest, nuts hardware
into its system
with the best possible graphics,
squeezing every inch of life out of it,
and then Nintendo's on the side, like,
well, we have good games
and we're gonna give it to you in 180P,
and we don't really care.
And I feel like that's what Honda's doing.
- And people eat that shit up, yeah!
- People love Civics!
They know they're reliable.
It's a timeless car that will get bought
regardless of what horsepower it makes,
and I think Honda knows that
and they don't need to redesign the entire engine
to sell more units.
- They make a Nintendo and they take away the USB port.
- Yep. (man chuckling)
All right, so what do you think?
Cop or drop?
Would you buy one of these?
Would you consider it?
- I would consider maybe a really aggressive lease.
Otherwise probably not picking up something like this
until it's cheap AF
- Well, I played you
because I'm not gonna answer that.
I'm gonna wait until I see some like,
aftermarket renderings and things like that
'cause that's when you really can tell.
This is a really blank slate of a car.
It's really smoothed out,
not a ton of defining lines on there.
I think with some aftermarket support,
it has a chance to be a pretty decent car.
So? - I dunno.
- I guess what is this car really competing against?
- I think themselves.
They got a really good market.
I think that's why you're kinda seeing them do
the WRX thing.
Where they're like, oh, less horsepower.
(man chuckling)
Slightly better car overall.
Same money, maybe a little bit more
and people are buying it anyway.
- Oh, man.
So what do you guys think is happening
with these new four bangers?
Are you about 'em?
Are you not feeling 'em?
Let us know down in the comments below.
I'm gonna read every single one.
I mean it. I want to hear your guys' opinions
and it'll be cool to see
what other options are available with the car.
- Sima.
I'm excited to see what Sima's got ready.
- Oh! - Thinking maybe
they can make 'em cool
and change my mind!
- All righty, don't forget
wheels, tires, suspension,
fitmentindustries.com!
We should get one of these
and just the mod the hell out of it.
- Yeah. All right. I'm down.
- And a new Nissan Z. - Let's see if we'll do
some reverse drop. - And a new Integra.
- Burnouts.
Yeah. Let's just get the trifecta.
- Let's just get all of the new cars.
- Yeah, let's do it. Why not?
- I wish I could do that.