STAND UP FOR INDIVIDUAL RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES.
RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A WHITE
SUPREMACIST.
SUPREMACIST. I’M NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES WE
HAVE TO SAY THAT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. HOW ABOUT THIS, MR. ACTING CHIEF
OF STAFF, YOU WOULDN’T HAVE TO
SAY IT SO OFTEN IF YOUR BOSS’
WORDS AND ACTIONS DIDN’T
REPEATEDLY ASK THE QUESTION.
ON FRIDAY TRUMP TRIED TO INSIST
WHITE SUPREMACY WAS NOT ON THE
RISE, ARGUING AGAINST ALL
AVAILABLE EVIDENCE THAT IT
DOESN’T REPRESENT A GROWING
THREAT.
THREAT. AND THEN THIS MORNING A TRIED
AND TRUE TRUMP TACTIC IN ACTION,
TURNING THE TABLES.
QUOTE, THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS
WORKING OVERTIME TO BLAME ME FOR
THE HORRIBLE ATTACK IN NEW
ZEALAND.
ZEALAND. THEY WILL HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD
TO PROVE THAT ONE.
SO RIDICULOUS.
SO RIDICULOUS. PUTTING THE STRAWMAN NATURE OF
THAT ARGUMENT ASIDE, IT SEEMS
THAT THE PRESIDENT IS MISSING
THE POINT.
THE POINT. DAVID LEE HEART PUT IT BEST IN
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" -- TRUMP
DOESN’T DESERVED TO BE BLAMED
FOR ANY SPECIFIC CRIME BUT HE
DOES DESERVE BLAMED FOR THE
TRENDS.
TRENDS. IT ISN’T VERY COMPLICATED.
THE MAND WITH THE LARGEST BULLY
PULPIT KEEPS ENCOURAGING WHITE
NATIONALISM.
NATIONALISM. LO AND BEHOLD, WHITE NATIONALISM
IS ON THE RISE.
YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD TO
PERSUADE YOURSELF THAT’S JUST
COINCIDENCE.
COINCIDENCE. JOINING US NOW, MR. LEMIRE, MR.
GLAUD, MR. MURPHY, REMOTE FASH
AWAY I BELIEVE IN LOS ANGELES
STILL WITH US.
GUYS, START, PLEASE.
YOU HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ON
THIS MATTER BUT I WANT TO START
WITH THIS.
WITH THIS. AGAIN, WE ENDED THE LAST SEGMENT
AS WE CAN END ALMOST EVERY
SEGMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
TALKING ABOUT WHAT A BIG, FAT
LIAR THE PRESIDENT IS.
ON THIS ISSUE AGAIN, A BIG, FAT
LIAR BECAUSE WE HAVE STATISTICS
TO SHOW WHAT’S GOING ON WITH
WHITE NATIONALIST AND OTHER HATE
CRIME AND HATE SPEECH AND SO ON.
UNDERNEATH ALL OF THIS, JOHN, IS
THIS DESIRE TO DISCONNECT THE
VIOLENCE OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS
AND THE ALT RIGHT WITH SOME OF
THE BASIC POSITIONS OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
REPUBLICAN PARTY. NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE SOIL
THAT ENABLES THESE FOLK TO
THRIVE, TO GROW, BEARS A FAMILY
RESEMBLANCE, THAT THERE’S A
POSITION.
POSITION. SO WHEN DONALD TRUMP DESCRIBES
MEXICANS AS INVADERS.
WHEN HE THINKS ABOUT IMMIGRATION
AS A KIND OF INFESTATION, WHEN
HE GOES TO EUROPE AND HE SAYS
THEY’RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE
CULTURE OF THE PLACE, RIGHT, ALL
OF THIS SEEMS LIKE IT’S
RESPECTABLE BUT UNDERNEATH IT,
RIGHT, IS THIS NASTINESS THAT
GIVES FUEL TO THESE PEOPLE.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE BAD E7D OF
THE BRIGHT BAR -- I SAID TO THE
MUSLIM CHILDREN WHO ARE VERY
FEARFUL WHO ARE GOING INTO
MOSQUES AND WORRIED THEY’RE
GOING TO BE SHOT DOWN BY
ANIMALS, THAT THEIR PARENTS HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP THAT
FEAR FROM TAKING ROOT IN THEIR
SPIRITS.
SPIRITS. AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS TELL
THEM THE PROBLEM ISN’T US, THE
PROBLEM ISN’T WITH IMMIGRANTS,
THE PROBLEM ISN’T WITH PEOPLE OF
COLOR OR BLACK FOLK, THE PROBLEM
IS WITH THIS IDEA OF WHITENESS,
THAT SOMEHOW IT SHOULD ACCRUE
SPECIAL BENEFIT TO FOLK AND
TRUMP LIVES IN THAT SPACE DAY IN
AND DAY OUT.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HIM PLAYING
TO HIS BASE, WE KNOW EXACTLY
WHAT WE’RE SAYING.
HE’S PLAYING TO THEIR FEARS AND
TO THEIR HATREDS.
THERE’S A DIRECT LINCOLN THEY
WANT TO BREAK AND NICK MULVEY
THINKS HE CAN JUST SAY IT AND WE
KNOW HE LIES THROUGH THE SIDE OF
HIS NECK ALL THE TIME TOO.
>> SIDE OF HIS NECK, AWESOME.
LET’S JUST PULL THE DATA UP HERE
FOR THE LATEST AVAILABLE WHITE
NATIONALISM DATA JUST IN THE
LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR. SUPREMACIST PROPAGANDA UP 182%,
RACIST RALLIES AND
DEMONSTRATIONS UP 20%, HATE
GROUPS UP 7%.
THAT’S ALL UNITED STATES DATA.
DOESN’T DEAL WITH INTERNATIONAL
STUFF.
STUFF. MIKE MURPHY, I ASK YOU AS
SOMEONE WHO’S WORKED FOR PEOPLE
WHO HAVE GONE ON TO BECOME
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
THE PRESIDENT DOES TWO THINGS
SIMULTANEOUSLY IN THE FACE OF
WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW ZEALAND,
ONE, HE DOES NOT CONDEMN IT FOR
WHAT IT IS.
AND, TWO, HE DENIES THAT WHAT IT
IS IS A REAL PROBLEM.
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY IMAGINE
IF YOU WERE MICK MULVANEY OR
ANYONE WHO WORKED FOR DONALD
TRUMP, EVEN IF THIS WERE JUST AN
ISOLATED INCIDENT, EVEN IF THERE
WASN’T CHARLOTTESVILLE AND THE
REST OF THE EVIDENCE, JUST ON
THE BASIS OF HIS BEHAVIOR IN
THIS TIME FRAME, HOW CAN YOU
POSSIBLY GOING ON TELEVISION
WITH THE STRAIGHT FACE AND TRY
TO CLAIM THAT IT’S RIDICULOUS
SOMEONE THINKS THE PRESIDENT
MIGHT BE ALIGNED WITH WHITE
NATIONALISM.
NATIONALISM. >> LOOK, WHEN YOU GO TO WORK FOR
DONALD TRUMP, PARTICULARLY ON
THE DOMESTIC POLICY SIDE, YOU
CHECK A LOT OF THINGS AT THE
DOOR.
DOOR. IT’S LIKE REQUIREMENT JOB ONE
AND THAT’S PART OF IT. NOW, LOOK
I DON’T THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE
PRESIDENT IS AN ARSONIST BUT I
THINK HE’S MAGNIFICENTLY
CARELESS WITH MATCHES.
HE DOESN’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND
PART OF HIS JOB IS NOT JUST TO
BE THE HEAD OF THE GOVERNMENT
AND DEMAND THINGS AND VILIFY
OPPONENTS AND DO ALL OF THE
POLITICAL ROUGH AND TUMBLE AT A
MASSIVELY COARSE LEVEL, I MIGHT
ADD, HE’S SUPPOSED TO SPEAK FOR
THE COUNTRY AND BE DEFENDER OF
INSTITUTIONS.
INSTITUTIONS. ONE OF THE MAIN JOBS OF A
PRESIDENT IS PREEMPT THINGS LIKE
THIS AND WHEN THEY HAPPEN,
ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT TAKES
THE ENERGY AWAY FROM IT, CAUSAL
ENERGY AWAY BY REMINDING PEOPLE
OF THE VALUES THAT BIND US
TOGETHER BY THE COUNTRY.
HE DOES NONE OF THAT BY CHOICE.
STILL HE PIVOTS TO SOMEHOW HE’S
THE VICTIM.
THE VICTIM. IT’S HORRIBLE AND WE REALLY
NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT CROSS THIS
LINE OF FORGETTING WHAT THE REAL
JOB IS.
JOB IS. AND IT’S HARD TO FIX OTHER THAN
TO CONDEMN HIM, WHICH WE ALL DO.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, I DON’T
REALLY HAVE AN ANSWER.
I WISH THE PARTY WOULD CONDEMN
HIM MORE.
HIM MORE. I THINK EVENTUALLY THE REPORTERS
WOULD TAKE REVENGE BUT UNTIL
THEN YOU HAVE TO SUFFER THROUGH
THIS AND WONDER ABOUT THE DAMAGE
IT DOES.
IT DOES. >> LAURA, I’M NOT A BIG FAN OF
WHAT ABOUT THIS AND YOU CAN GO
ALL DAY HOW HE WAS TREATED IN
THE TRUMP ERA AND OBAMA ERA BUT
I THINK IT’S WORTH POINTING OUT
THIS TWEET FROM AMY WALTER FROM
COOK POLITICAL REPORT, SHE SAYS,
WATCHING TRUMP WHITE HOUSE
PEOPLE GOING ON TV TO SCOLD THE
MEDIA FOR BLAMING TRUMP FOR THE
NEW ZEALAND MASSACRE, YOU WOULD
HAVE THOUGHT NONE OF THEM WERE
INVOLVED IN CALLING OBAMA WEAK
ON TERRORISM BECAUSE HE WOULDN’T
SAY RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISM.
YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN -- IF YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF DOUBLE
STANDARDS, THESE PEOPLE ARE
PRACTICING IT AT A VERY HIGH
LEVEL OF ART FORM.
>> RIGHT, OF COURSE.
I THINK WE DON’T HAVE TO WORK
VERY HARD TO BLAME, IT’S NOT THE
MEDIA WHO’S BLAMING TRUMP FOR
THESE MASSACRES.
THESE MASSACRES. THE SHOOTERS THEMSELVES, MAIL
BOMBER, ANTI-SEMITIC SHOOTER AT
THE SYNAGOGUE, THE MUSLIM
SHOOTER IN NEW ZEALAND HAVE ALL
CITED TRUMP THEMSELVES AND SAID
THEY WERE INSPIRED BY HIM.
THE KKK ENDORSED HIM.
HE CALLED AFRICAN COUNTRIES FITH
WHOLE COUNTRIES.
WHOLE COUNTRIES. WE DON’T HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD
TO DRAW THIS LINE DIRECTLY FROM
THE RISE IN ESCALADING RATES OF
VIOLENCE DIRECTLY TO THE
AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
AMERICAN PRESIDENT. >> JONATHAN, THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES IS TAKING
ACTION, AT LEAST OF A KIND ON
THE DAILY BEAST SAYING THE HOUSE
JUDICIAL COMMITTEE IS PLANNING A
HEARING ON THE RISE OF WHITE
NATIONALISM.
NATIONALISM. THERE ARE MANY WHO THINK THE
REPUBLICANS CONTROL OF CONGRESS
IS A PROBLEM OF PRESIDENT TRUMP,
THIS MAY BE ANOTHER ONE.
IS THIS THE KIND OF THING, THERE
ARE A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THEY
CAN DO DAMAGE TO TRUMP WITH
INVESTIGATIONS AND SUBPOENAS AND
SO ON, BUT HOLDING HEARINGS ON
THIS, DOES THAT BREAK THROUGH?
>> IT HELPS SHINE THE SPOTLIGHT
ON THIS BUT I DON’T THINK IT’S
GOING TO CHANGE ANY MINDS OR
ILLUMINATE SOMETHING WE ALL
DON’T KNOW IS THERE ALREADY.
I THINK "THE TIMES" COLUMN YOU
READ FROM A MOMENT AGO IS RIGHT,
THE PRESIDENT CREATES THIS
ECOSYSTEM, EVEN IF IT’S NOT
INDIVIDUALLY RESPONSIBLE.
INDIVIDUALLY RESPONSIBLE. REMEMBER HIS POLITICAL CAREER
WAS BASED ON THE BACK OF
BIRTHERISM, A RACIST LIE.
SINCE THEN IN THE EARLY DAYS OF
THE CAMPAIGN, HE WAS SLOW TO
REJECT THE SUPPORT OF DAVID
DUKE.
DUKE. NOTHING CHANGED SINCE.
MIND YOU ON FRIDAY WHEN HE
SIGNED THIS NATIONAL EMERGENCY
DECLARATION, HE REFERRED TO
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AS INVADERS,
HOURS AFTER THAT SAME MANIFESTO
THE NEW ZEALAND SHOOTER, HE USED
THAT SAME WORD INVADERS TO
DESCRIBE IMMIGRANTS.
DESCRIBE IMMIGRANTS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS PART
AND PARCEL WITH THIS PRESIDENT,