every day that I'm home and just working
I come down here onto the pier walk
along it especially good now for my leg
part of physical therapy is to try to
walk as much as possible so
get the leg flowing
I mean everything out here is in public
you can't you can't there's no kind of
like expectation of privacy when you're
out in public doing stuff so you can be
photographed you know yeah so I don't
really worry about it I mean you're like
get in tune with this weirdness down
here yeah
wasn't me weird doing my daily routine
now with people following with a camera
that actually could be regretting it
also did I mention that I feel like I'm
in a real bad faced state for this thing
yeah you said no connoisseur Pappas is
CGI I get fix it in post
yeah make me look a little slightly less
hacker than I am look in the real like
hey I look all right today and then I
went and did like an America team photo
shoot thing I look so bad
I was like man these photos look like
Ed's different in the sense that he
embodies the original and what I
consider the true spirit of
skateboarding he's a weirdo and what's
really weird about ed is kind of how
normal he is and some of the subject
matter he chooses for his art - it's
really since we're talking about it I
guess I can launch it art talk like
it's very lin chu it's very much like
David Lin she's not like David Lynch he
finds the weird in the macabre in the
mundane normal people normal towns you
know things and Ed's very much a product
of normal suburbia and Huntington Beach
and that
your area
that's my most liked photo ever I don't
know how to explain it why it happened
but I got like they love your mustache
you've seen a thousand followers off you
that day I shot I flew this guy and I'm
sure that's just a lurker oh and it's my
most liked photo ever by far like 14,000
likes or something Tony Hawk style likes
and I can't explain it and I don't even
know you have a good day man it was good
rentee my whole skate life started when
I hit Huntington Beach we lived in
Corona in a trailer park my dad goes
abusive and a would hit us and stuff and
he took off with my mom keep saying she
was 14 I think she was 16 either way she
was underage let literally left town
with our babysitter you know he's like
40 or something and he leaves like bails
my mom leaves two kids might meet my
brother for some 14 16 year old girl who
just used him for a ride to like
Colorado and then dumped him and so that
was it like our family's broken we moved
to heightened to like live with our
grandparents and then they finally like
got us an apartment yeah I was on
Alabama the street and then Edie lived
down the block from what I can remember
Ed's last name was herring I don't know
if he wants to get into that with why he
changed it but when I was first met at
his name was that herring
I met Edie in Huntington Beach
California in 1987 like already his
nickname was like Ollie ed because he
could Ollie super high he wore the same
clothes every day like some cutoff pal
sweats I think or maybe their revision
sweatpants cutoff he was really poor
like like people made fun of him for how
poor he was see my dad had a pretty
challenging upbringing we lived on the
corner of Huntington and Memphis we just
got all these little kids knock on the
door all times a day go hey you got any
stickers you got any old boards you got
this or that it was that period that
Edie temptin came
knocking on the door asking for stickers
and he started bugging us more I start
coming in and just sitting down watching
videos and we would basically give him
stickers old boards and then he would
actually just go sell them at Huntington
Beach High School
to make money from self and just going
to get by having no dad meant that I
could run all over my mom and do
whatever I want so I could skate and
just kind of like school and
everything because she had no control
over us and she used like not probably
like like mentally naughty not really
able to work my mom was like when she
was a kid she had a she had the
chickenpox and stopped breathing when
she was an infant and almost died
because of that she had a little bit of
brain damage so she was able to raise
two kids find everything but she's super
simple she can't understand concepts she
has a hard time doing math and stuff so
my grandparents were basically taking
care of us his grandparents were kind of
like the backup support for Ed's mom but
they were also like you know they could
get away with a lot I would do the
lamest stuff I was such an I
remember one time I don't know she got
she would yell at me for something and I
had a bowl of cereal on the like arm of
the couch and I just like slapped it off
milk everywhere and just like walked out
like clean that up kind of thing
like it's you know like I I was
just like an kid like figures
you were like angry I mean I don't know
I think it was like broken home I mean
this all this kind of ties back to like
how do you find skateboarding you know
at least from my generation I think
almost everyone that was my friend at
that time came from a broken home like
some kind of alienation
I came here from England in 84
Huntington just kind of where the spot
was your dad with the scares from Bob
Meltzer I mean pair will endure
well the Freestyle guys on the era like
a whole world of skateboarding was there
that I didn't really know this is
probably like 85 and I saw these kids
basically one day just skate by and they
like dropped off the curve across the
street and then tapped up the curb just
like what the that was it I
was blown away
edu just kind of saw him as a little kid
but he's too free sell a lot at the
beginning so as him and his next door
neighbor Jeremy Rainey
they just both come down and hang out
and do with freestyle with us so it
was pretty funny
the very first skate crew like was this
kid Erik Estrada
he was the best kid around kind of a
masochist sort of like an alpha male who
like realized he had a minion of kids
that were kind of fought hanging around
him of which I was one Erik strive heard
of him did he end up being a vaccine
yeah he never really did anything good
things guy from chips yeah yeah everyone
has those stories like there was just
one dude I don't care he was in
California and he lived next door to Ed
Templeton dude could have been like the
greatest time but he quit to be a
gangster like that time I was nine like
I was already like the main people I'd
skate with were Edie Skippy Pro neared
Jake burns Aaron Devine josé Serra de
Derek Roche Steve Robert but I wasn't
like let me get a yeah yeah I was like
scared of them because like when you're
eight and people are like 12 and 13
they're like full-blown adults
cuz I had two older brothers so I knew
like these are older dudes and all their
dudes like jagoff and
edie clearly represents the second
generation of course Street skating and
he took a lot of that freestyle
influence so pay and play was the
freestyle mecca of skateboarding in the
late 80s and that's where don brownlee
bride pair will endure would ride and
that's where a lot of that
progressiveness came from I don't know
how it happened but we used to take our
launch ramps to this like pain play
racquetball courts right next to
Huntington Beach High School
just like impromptu it was like Friday
night or Saturday I forget well like one
night a week and it was a huge thing
like there would be hundreds of kids
there pay and play plays a key role in
all this stuff because it was really the
melting pot and a couple of the kids
from around here would bring quarter
pipes their mom would like literally
drive them from their house we put the
ramp up to the wall and do wall right
wall jams like oh you know we were
basically trying to like create savanna
Slama from the videos you know like a
jump wrap line some shitty PVC slider
bar and it turned into this thing where
everybody from around Southern
California knew about it
I mean Rey Barbie would come Tom Brown
would be freestyling their gods and
goddess showed up and at some of these
Friday nights were literally epic like
on the scale of like they'd advance
Street skateboarding do you don't
understand the first time I saw Dawn's
like on a skateboard he did a he did a
the know can fly over the
parking block he might as well
levitated I was like like what I was
like scared and happy and like freaked
out all at the same time because it was
like that's cones and it was like oh my
god that was going in it was like and
then he was gone and then those dudes
are like the dudes I look up to and
they're like and like it was insane I
mean I was like a mind-blowing
experience the pain play session sort of
gave you outlook everybody from Southern
California is coming to this spot to
skate so I was watching things advance
and what people don't really realize in
Thrasher there was an article mid mid
80s ten impossible tricks by rodney
mullen those impossible tricks became
the foundation of skateboarding from the
90s on well in his generation looked at
it as a kid well it's being done so what
if he did it on a freestyle board let's
do it
a big board I remember at this point
there was no precedent to like calling a
line of line one of the things that me
and Jason we do we call them lines let's
cruise across the court and do three
tricks in a row we just spent hours just
around doing flack Airlines and
ready Barbie was doing no complies and
stuffs so his he was doing kick from
stuff but he was also doing a lot of
like no complies and shifties and all
that stuff like so he had a totally
different style but but we were all
doing the same kind of thing like just
it was part of incorporating lines into
it I don't know I had to imagine that
this was also happening in different
areas like simultaneously it wasn't like
us I just don't know about it as much
but I think we were some of the early
people doing that kind of stuff we'd be
doing on the flippy dippy stuff and then
you'll see him start incorporating more
freestyle tricks I know it was like
he'll flip man you name it he could
pretty much do with a freestyle stuff on
history world which was pretty cool at
the time we'd skate with Don Brown and
try his moves we'd be like I wonder if
we could do what you're doing on our
Street boards we were doing Impossibles
that was like freestyle move Jason Lee
had three flips on lock we wanted to
like push it further from flat ground
and take it to other stuff so I remember
there's a little forced air in the high
school I remember pulling Don
specifically like hey Don come over here
and check this out and I did it
impossible down the force center and he
was just like all I remember that
yeah that was that was it's weird it's
like there was I've been in skate with
him four gazillion years but there's
certain defining moments I always
remember and that was one of them just
add you know doing all the Impossibles
down then you know one first Jason Lee
at 360 flip and it was just like it was
at that point when I really realized
that skateboarding is going to change
forever and it's side-streets game and
kind of the elements of freestyle have
merged and it's going to take scaling in
a whole new direction
I really feel the air and Jason Lee were
two of the pioneers of really hell
yeah cool angle okay
this session is over