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RYAN DUFFY: Tell us your story.
You were exiled.
LORIN HOLM: We come in Sunday to sit down to Sunday dinner,
and we're eating, and they says, you need to
go up to the church.
And they says that you no longer belong by your family,
to leave your home.
We weren't supposed to contact our family, because they
weren't our family.
They were Warren Jeff's wives and children now.
They says God said it.
RYAN DUFFY: So you walked in the front door, and you said--
LORIN HOLM: The back door.
RYAN DUFFY: The back door.
LORIN HOLM: Says, I'm home.
I thought they'd all give me a hug.
And they ran.
This is the picture of my family.
RYAN DUFFY: When was this photo taken?
LORIN HOLM: This was taken about,
probably three years ago.
RYAN DUFFY: Three years.
LORIN HOLM: And I never had a rebellious child in my home.
And now it's blown like a grenade in my house.
RYAN DUFFY: Yeah.
LORIN HOLM: Warren Jeffs is not a prophet
and never was one.
RYAN DUFFY: So how many bedrooms are in this house?
LORIN HOLM: There's 14.
RYAN DUFFY: 14.
LORIN HOLM: This is my little girls'.
RYAN DUFFY: Wow.
Oh, wow.
Look at this room.
Whose room is this?
LORIN HOLM: This is Helen, my Helen.
These are our children by her.
We have 12.
RYAN DUFFY: Wow.
They're adorable.
Who are all these folks up here?
LORIN HOLM: That's her parents.
RYAN DUFFY: Oh, OK.
LORIN HOLM: Yeah, and then these are our children with
the grandchildren.
We haven't seen any of our grandchildren for
a year and a half.
They won't even let us see them.
In fact, we had one of them once, and they come and pulled
her out of our arms, and screaming, took the baby away.
RYAN DUFFY: Really?
LORIN HOLM: In the last year, I've been able to have
visitation three times a week.
And I get them every other week on the weekends, so they
sleep here.
And they get up and make pancakes, and they run around
and play, and they bounce balls and ride bikes and swim.
But the minute the door shuts, they gotta go back across the
Berlin Wall.
And pray and read and read and pray and pray and read.
That's all they can do.
This is one of the mother's rooms.
RYAN DUFFY: Easy to get lost in here.
LORIN HOLM: Yeah.
All that's just the furniture in there.
But it's a baby-- this is where I raised 10 of my
children, from her.
RYAN DUFFY: Right.
LORIN HOLM: And that's her.
RYAN DUFFY: And so does it kind of work like there are
different wings for different mothers and their children?
LORIN HOLM: We all have the same kitchen.
RYAN DUFFY: Yeah, but everyone shares the same kitchen.
But in terms of living residences, bedrooms?
LORIN HOLM: Yeah, this is usually where the other
mothers were.
RYAN DUFFY: OK.
That makes sense.
LORIN HOLM: We got three sets of washers going steady.
RYAN DUFFY: [LAUGHTER]
I guess you have to, right?
LORIN HOLM: Yeah.
RYAN DUFFY: Oh, yeah.
That looks about right.
Could feed an army down here.
LORIN HOLM: Yeah, we stock--
RYAN DUFFY: I guess you were feeding an army down there.
LORIN HOLM: Warren's not the dad.
Warren doesn't run my home.
I'm the father of my home.
And God gave me this family, and I'm not going to have a
thief take it.
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