- Welcome back to Big White
in the interior of British Columbia.
You might recognize it from Pinkbike Academy.
I certainly have it ingrained in my head.
Now, I thought a year later let's come back
bit more relaxed pace.
Let's do some daily driver bike checks.
- Rick. How are you today?
- Good. You?
- Good, thank you.
How old are you and where are you from?
- Uh, I'm 13 and I'm from Kelowna.
- Wicked.
- [Tom] And talk us through this Demo 8 in front of us.
- [Rick] Yeah. So it's a 2013 specialized Demo 8 S-Works.
And it's indestructible.
I crashed pretty hard today
and I don't know how I didn't, like break anything. But-
yeah. - The bike's indestructible
and you're pretty indestructible too.
- Uh, well I mean, I got that. - (laughs)
My old bike- oh that was a special bike.
It was an XC bike and I was just,
I wasn't progressing on it.
- [Rick] So I went on Pinkbike
and I went into the downhill category.
That came up.
Actually, my buddy found it for me.
(both laugh)
- A bit of a step up from the XC bike.
Have you had to change anything since you bought it?
- Uh well, actually the back tread, but that's really it.
- New tire?
- Yeah. - Nice.
And it's running the good old 26-inch wheels.
- Yep. - You're good.
- What would you like to do to it,
or is it just good to go as this?
- Well, put a new seat on.
- What's wrong with that seat?
- [Rick] Well, it has like bumps on it.
- [Tom] (laughs)
- I don't really know.
- Oh dude, well we better let you go get some more laps.
- Alright, thank you.
- Thanks very much.
- Cade, nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you. - How are you doing today?
- Pretty good.
Getting some laps in.
- We've got this Ellsworth beauty in front of us.
- Oh yeah. - Tell us a story about that.
- So, I was like
riding my parents' E-bike for the longest time.
And I was like, I want to get a bike
cause I'm enjoying it.
Saw this on Castanet. $1,100.
Picked it up.
I've been enjoying it since then.
- [Tom] Perfect.
And we think it's a 2011 frame.
- [Cade] Yeah. Something around there
- [Tom] But a lot of these parts look a lot newer.
- [Cade] Um well,
I don't really know anything about the bike to be honest.
I'm pretty sure it's 180 on the front
and then like 140 on the back.
- And you got the KS Lev chopper.
- Yeah, it doesn't really work.
- [Tom] It doesn't really work- (laughs)
But you're riding the bike park most of the time anyway.
- Yeah.
- (laughs) Perfect.
- [Tom] Although the seat,
that looks pretty brand new.
- [Cade] Yeah. I just- My mom got a new seat for her bikes.
So I'm like "I'll snag it."
- You snagged your mom's seat.
- Yep.
- Your mom's new seat or your mom's old seat?
- Old seat, old seat, old seat.
- (laughing)
- [Tom] Have you had to do anything since you bought it?
- [Cade] Well I've changed the derailleurs
a couple of times.
- [Tom] Yep. - [Cade] I've got,
- [Cade] I got a new front tire, new gear tire,
new pedals.
And that's about it. - [Tom] That's quite a bit.
- Yeah.
- And then do you mostly ride it up or down?
- Up- down.
- Up down. (laughs)
Bike park.
- Up and then down.
- Okay. Perfect. Well, that's a good way to do it.
- [Cade] Well, I mean this gear doesn't work because-
- The granny gear?
- Yeah. This one- it doesn't work.
- [Tom] Oh you don't need that.
- It's bent so.
- That's no good to you.
Make you strong.
Perfect. And is this your first ever mountain bike?
- Yeah. - Hell yeah. It's so good.
Thanks very much. I think we've better
let you go- - Oh yeah.
- do some laps, mate.
- Yeah, thank you.
- Perfect.
- John. You're on holiday.
- Yeah, yeah.
- Talk us through the Dreadnought.
- The Dreadnought. Yeah, this is the machine.
I just love it.
Um, came stock with some E13's
swapped it out for some We Are One wheels,
on Onyx hubs.
- [John] The classics, they feel sturdy.
Amazing.
Put some code RS's on I think.
- [Tom] Nice option.
- [John] Yep, yep.
And with the push shock on this one is amazing.
- [Tom] Does it come stock with the push?
- This one did, I bought the frame with the push option.
- Yeah.
- [John] So glad I did. It's just an amazing shock.
- [Tom] You have brought the padding in the back.
- That's right. I tried the full 29 for it.
It felt great.
But man, the 27 five on the back feels fantastic.
- Yeah. - Especially in the bike park.
- [Tom] Okay.
- [John] The one up bar was a great choice.
Same with the dropper.
- [Tom] Yep.
- Both have worked fantastic.
The XT drivetrain was good choice too.
Well, the tires are a 24 in the back,
27 in the front.
The fork is actually pretty low.
I think I have four tokens in there
and I run it like- - [Tom] Yep.
- like 70 or 80 pounds at the most.
- Right.
- So really small bumps sensitive,
but I never feel the bottom.
- [John] Honestly, this bike is probably
the first bike that feels like a true do it all machine.
- Yep.
Like ride Mount Provo at home with it.
Ride anywhere, bike park, whatever.
It feels fantastic.
Thanks though. - Really nice to meet you.
- Yeah, cheers mate. - Have a good one.
- Yeah, cheers.
- Austin. - Hello.
- Nice to meet you. - Yeah
We've just met your old man, John.
- Yeah.
- And you've got what I would say,
- Race machine. - the Race version.
Talk us through it.
The first thing I noticed is the fork, obviously.
- [Austin] Yeah. I got my boxer set up 180.
- [Tom] 180?
- [Austin] Yeah. And then I got a Float X2.
We are one rims with the Onyx vespers.
And yeah, the Ziggy Link and XT Deore's.
Yeah.
- And you use this mostly in the bike park
or you pedal this machine too.
- Yeah, pedal it too.
- Does everything.
And talk me through some of these stickers on here.
I can see a custom Dreadnaught.
- Yep.
Got the We Are One.
Got my buddy Jack (indistinct).
Fellow friend that got cancer this year.
Yeah.
- [Tom] That's uh, well that's good to have it one there.
It's a very Canadian bike.
- [Austin] Yeah.
- [Tom] Wheels, frame, pedals.
- [Austin] Yeah, Chrome X seat.
- Chrome X seat.
Bars. Yeah, very Canadian.
You gave it very (indistinct).
- My last question,
who leads on the downhill. Is that you or the old man.
- Oo.
That's a tough question.
He always thinks he, like go in front.
But I don't know, he says-
- But really you've got him, right?
- Yeah. - Yeah. Nice.
Sweet. Thanks Austin.
- Yeah, no problem. - Have a good ride.
- Alright, Jeremiah.
You're a Big White local,
talk us through this Big White local machine.
(both laughing)
- Um, so I'd like to think
I have a pretty good understanding of
what these trails truly need
and it's not a big squishy bike.
It's a dirt jumper.
- Duh.
- (laughs) - I mean, that's a no brainer.
I mean, if you come to a bike park,
why ain't you want a dirt jumper?
- [Jeremiah] Exactly, cause- - [Tom] Talk me through it.
How many days have you survived in the park on this.
- [Jeremiah] Uh, so only four days riding park on the bike,
which have been bone shattering.
Still heaps of fun though.
You can see we've got some really heavy grip here
with the OG Holy Rollers.
- (laughs)
- Um, I think somewhere on them
they say something about pro use only.
- Oh yeah.
- I'd like to think that's where I live.
- Yep, yep.
- Um, this front tire.
I just borrowed the wheel off of a friend,
so I don't even know what I'm running in the front.
All I know is that
the tire pressure is cranked through the roof.
- Okay, and it's a Banshee Amp frame.
- Yeah.
- [Jeremiah] All the bits and pieces you see
actually came off of a 2009 top.
I blew up the frame on the soft style course last year.
- There's so many red flags in front of me right now.
- Oh, I know. I know. (both laugh)
- [Jeremiah] I had to do a little modification
in the dropout here.
This kinda got bent. So I don't know if you can see,
but I did some sanding and some filings.
- [Tom] (laughs)
- [Jeremiah] Just to get the axle to fit.
- Well, look there's nothing like taking drills
and sanders to bikes.
- Well I'm a (indistinct) by trade, so.
(laughs) - Yeah, I mean.
If there's anyone that can do it, it's you.
- [Jeremiah] My favorite part
would probably be the fork. Um,
it's uh, cut down 160.
(record scratch)
- [Jeremiah] A Pike 160.
It was done properly,
this is the one thing that wasn't done sketchy.
- Sorry, just take me through
cutting down a 160 mil Pike properly.
- I'm going to be honest. I don't know.
Lyndon told me his buddy at the bike shop did it.
So. (laughs)
- Mate, it's great to see whatever bike makes you happy.
It's all good stuff. I would say go take a lap,
but it looks like you've got other places to be.
- Might be alert right now. (laughs)
- Thanks Jeremiah. You champion.
- Yeah.
- Well, we found our way to the top
and we've found Melissa.
- Hello. - How are ya?
- Good.
- Big White lift attendant. How good?
Look at this place you work.
- Super fun.
- Can't complain. And what have we got in front of us here?
- [Melissa] This is my Juliana.
I got it when I turned 40
as a birthday present to me.
And that's when I started riding.
- [Tom] Is that a fancy carbon Chromag bar there?
- [Melissa] Yes it is.
- [Tom] Nice work.
- [Melissa] (laughs)
- And it's pretty wide. Do you know how wide?
- A uh, I think- yeah it's wide.
- Wide. - I don't know. (laughs)
- Can confirm it's wide. - Yep.
Need to cut it down a little bit.
- And you got the matching grips too.
- [Melissa] Yep. - [Tom] Nice.
And tell me about these gold stars you've earned on it.
- Um, they're scratches. (laughs)
- [Melissa] From either myself or, you know,
other people's bikes, unfortunately for shuttling. (laughs)
- That's the beast scratch cover up I've seen.
- (laughs)
- Like these are fantastic.
- [Tom] And then you're full Chromag
with the pedals too, aye?
- [Melissa] Yeah. - [Tom] Wicked.
- [Melissa] I love Chromag. - Yeah.
- I mean, Great BC. (laughs)
- Yeah.
What else do we need to know about you or the bike?
- Oh you wanna know about my YouTube channel
that me and my husband started?
- Tell me about it, tell me about it.
- [Melissa] It is OutWest Mountain Biking
and it's just a point of view
and sometimes just me learning on how to do certain things.
- Wicked. - Yeah.
- That's rad.
Thanks Abes. Uh, shall let you back to work or?
- Yeah I guess I should. (laughs)
- Sweet.
So nice to meet you.
- Thank you. - (laughs)
Bye!
- We're here with Lyndon.
How are you mate?
- Not too bad, yourself?
- It's great to see you again.
If you didn't know, Lyndon was behind the scenes
on PBA season one.
- Yeah.
So thanks mate.
Now talk us through this literal legend.
- Well it's a XCEL Banshee light in two nine.
- [Lyndon] Tons of fun.
Got Fox suspension on it, Magura breaks.
Some uh, cheap loner WTB wheels,
cause I kept breaking my Race Face ones
and uh yeah.
That's about it.
- Last time I saw Lyndon and he wasn't running a chain.
So I'm a little disappointed.
Um, how is it in the chain full life?
- Uh, kind of sucks. There's a lot more peddling.
(both laugh)
- [Tom] Look at the size of that chain ring.
There's why it's hard to pedal boat.
- [Lyndon] Oh, it's only a 36 tooth.
- [Tom] (groans)
And then that back tire
- [Tom] that looks, um, drift approved.
- [Lyndon] E-13 semi-slick
and basically its just fast
go from side knobs for the corners.
That's about it. It's all you need.
- It such a- - It's bike park. (laughs)
- Isn't it an amazing feel.
It's like you got no grip
and then you have to just commit
to get grip - Exactly.
- Perfect.
And on the front you're running
what looks like a dangerously well-used,
uh, Assegai.
- Yeah, it's a slightly used Assegai.
- And then this monster up front here, the 40.
- Yeah.
- Uh, what's the setup?
- [Lyndon] Yeah fairly stiff.
I'm running one extra token in there.
Mostly just max out compression as much as I can
and turn up the rebound a little bit so it's fun.
- Pretty carbon bar up there.
- Yeah. - How wide is that big boy?
- That's the running 820.
- 820?
- Yeah.
- You're a big unit.
I mean you can, I mean, look at this. (laughs)
- [Tom] What spring rides there?
- We're running a 550 SLS.
- Hell yeah. And carbon cranks?
- Yeah carbon cranks.
- [Lyndon] They're minorly cracked, but uh.
- [Tom] Ah. - [Lyndon] But uh that's-
- Yeah you got two of them for a reason.
- [Lyndon] Exactly. - [Tom] Yeah.
You can tell how much someone's ridden a bike
by the state of their grips. - [Lyndon] Oh yeah.
- How many-
- That's just- its bar. Its plastic.
- How many lifts a day do you reckon this thing steers.
- Um, out here probably 15 a day.
15, 20 a day.
- (laughs)
Are you serious?
- It's only 12 minutes up the lift.
- [Lyndon] Sorry, dude.
- [Tom] Lyndon, you're a legend.
The bikes a legend.
Thanks three match.
Anything else we need to know?
- No, that's it. That's all.
- Beauty. Thanks mate.
- Angie!
- Tom!
- Great to see you.
- I know right
- It's been so long.
Look, you're dressed to impress.
- I know right?
- I was gonna ask you about your bike,
but talk me through the outfit.
- I've got a sweater on cause it's cold.
- Uh-huh.
- I've got another bike shirt.
It's a Fox shirt cause it's cold.
And I got a t-shirt and then an undershirt
cause it's cold.
- You run the Shimmy. - Yes. Do you want to see it?
- You're one of them.
- (laughs) - You're one of them.
- Yeah, I am. - You run the Shimmy
- It's warm.
- That's okay.
Well at least we've got this beautiful-
- [Angie] My Giant Glory?
- [Tom] Giant Glory.
- [Angie] It was given to me from a friend
because we thought we'd try to mountain bike.
So he gave us this and that's how it all started.
It's gone from my son, to my daughter, to me.
- Ah.
- I know.
- Yeah. Perfect.
It's well used, it's got some memories.
- [Tom] It's a dangerously capable bike.
- [Angie] Right.
- [Tom] 26 inch wheels.
Saint pedals, Saint drivetrain.
It looks outstanding.
- Why thank you.
It goes with my outfit.
- It does, it does. - (laughs)
You know what they say?
Look good, feel good.
- Right. - Yeah, yeah.
- Were going with that.
- Angie what else do we need to know about you
and the bike?
- I'm a kite lady in my spare time
- You're like a crazy kite lady?
- Kite board.
Yeah. - Oh hell yeah.
- Yeah!
So we opened up a store.
- In Kelowana. - Yes.
- What's it called?
- It's called Windstar Water sports.
- Windstar Water sports.
And soon gonna be bike store or?
- Uh maybe. - Yeah
- Maybe - I think so
- No for real. - I'll come visit.
- Yeah you will. (laughs)
Well, I like the pink goggles.
- Thank you.
- Angie, you wore it
cause you knew Pinkbike was gonna be here right?
- Yes, yes.
- Thanks Angie. Have a good run.
- Thanks, thanks Tom.
- Court, I feel very safe around you.
- Perfect, as expected to be.
- How's the day at work been.
- It's awesome, pretty quiet day.
Um, beautiful weather.
A little windy now, but livin' the dream.
- Well, I'm glad we could catch up with you
and I'm very biased.
I had to come look at the Meter M.
- Definitely.
- (laughs)
Um, how good?
- Unbelievable, best bike I've ever ridden
and that's for sure, so. - Tell me the story about it.
- [Court] Bought it second hand.
It was pretty much new and then I had it.
Now it's definitely not new.
Yeah.
- [Tom] What have you had to do to it
since you bought it at the start of the season.
- Multiple tire slashes.
Um, I'm missing a spoke on the rear.
New brakes, got Saints up here.
- [Tom] Yep.
- [Court] Uh bent my levers second day I had it.
Little mod here with some uh-
- [Tom] (laughs)
- [Court] zip ties and gorilla tape.
- [Tom] There's nothing zip ties can't do.
Look at that.
- [Court] Holding my shift wrong.
- [Tom] (laughs) Talk me through that stack height.
What's going on there.
- That's a pretty nasty stack height.
The guy I bought it from,
he had switched out and put a ZEB on
and I guess the bike it came on
had a super long stack.
So he's running a low stack,
now I've got a super long one.
- [Tom] Aye, you can sort that out.
- [Court] PSI's I'm like 18 to 20 in the front.
And then like 22, 24 in the rear.
- [Tom] How much of a workout
does the drive train actually get.
- Zero.
- (laughs)
- [Tom] These handlebars look dangerously wide.
- [Court] 800 wide.
- [Tom] 800. Okay. - 800, yeah.
- [Tom] Big White, people ride wide.
- Big bars? Yeah.
- [Tom] Big White, big bars.
- Oh yeah. - [Tom] That's what they say.
The suspension here.
The bike park, what do you run front and back?
- Uh, PSI wise like 71 in the front.
I noticed makes a huge difference
with really small increments with the ZEB.
- Yep.
- Uh, and then I'm at like 250 PSI in the rear.
I like running a super stiff bike.
- [Tom] What else do I need to know?
- [Court] Come to Big White Bike Park.
- [Tom] Boom. It's a great time.
Thanks Court.
You probably have some lives to save.
I won't keep you any longer.
- Got my duties.
- (laughs) Thanks mate.
Nice. Well have an awesome ride.
- [Man on bike lift] (faintly speaking)
- Oh, well how good is Big White?
It's great to be in the interior of BC
meeting the locals, seeing their rigs.
(laughs)
Uh, I got to come back out here again,
but make sure you subscribe
for the next daily drivers video.
It's time for me to go find my own bike
and do some laps.
Cheers for watching.