Woo.
Welcome back, you two.
I'm happy to see both of you.
The last time you were here, I was not here.
You were here hosting with your mom.
Yeah, I liked it.
I had a great time.
Yes, and how have you been, sir?
I've been great.
Yeah?
I've been great.
Good.
I've been hanging with my sissy, doing our podcast.
I know.
Trying to raise three children-- trying.
You both have three children, right?
Yeah.
He raises children really easily.
This is what I do.
It's his best work.
I just raise kids.
[LAUGHTER]
It's your best work?
If I was just paid for it.
He's the best dad.
Are they the same ages?
How old are your kids?
I have the first one.
So it's Ryder, then Wilder--
Right.
Oh, look, there are my babies.
That's Wilder, Rio, and Bodhi.
--and then Bodhi and then Bing and then Rio and then Rani.
And this is your new one.
My new one, yeah.
Oh, look, this is such a great picture.
Oh.
I love it so much.
I know--
Yeah, so we had two boys and a girl.
--stuck together.
It's kind of weird actually.
Yeah, we both had two boys.
It's very strange that y'all have the same,
but this new little child of yours--
Aw, Rani.
Now, come on.
Oh, stop.
Oh, no, stop.
[LAUGHTER]
Yes she is-- oh, she's so funny.
She's so deeply funny.
I actually think she's got the funny gene because--
She looks like it.
--she loves jewelry, and so if you're
wearing any kind of necklace, she goes, off, off.
So you have to take it off because she wears it.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's a little concerning.
She's feminine but tough.
Yeah, she's not--
She's going to hold her own.
Do you know what I mean?
She's tough.
She likes the girly things, but she demands them from you.
Right.
[LAUGHTER]
Off.
But she's like--
Shoes off!
[LAUGHTER]
That's so adorable.
It's so great.
That's great.
Congratulations.
Now, will you keep having children until one of you wins?
No.
[LAUGHTER]
I have a feeling I'm probably going to end up winning.
I'm done, I'm so done.
I don't know if I'm done yet.
I'm in that place of, like, right now,
Rani's at the age where you're like--
Sweet spot.
--I want another baby.
Yeah.
But once she gets like four, you're like-- ooh, four, five--
I feel like my life is back a little bit.
They're kind of in a groove.
I understand.
Yeah.
Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about a little bit?
[APPLAUSE]
Well, yeah.
There's like a window.
Yeah.
My window has never wanted, ever.
[LAUGHTER]
The window has never been open for one at all.
Maybe you've never had a window-- ever.
I haven't had a window, but I do think they're adorable,
and I like playing--
So many windows.
Yeah, playing with children is fun.
Yeah.
And then, bye-bye.
No, I know.
[LAUGHTER]
I get it.
Now, it's just interesting.
So you both are very similar.
Obviously, you have kids--
three kids, three kids.
Yeah.
And you're both in the business.
Is this something you both knew growing up,
just because you had parents that were actors that you
both would go into this?
I think, no.
I mean, I knew.
I never thought I'd ever do anything else.
I feel like I was just born--
that's exactly-- it was just that's what I was gonna do.
There was no knowing with Kate.
It just was.
She came out of the womb performing song and dance
and, hey, look at me.
And I was--
Wow.
Like Ethel Merman.
Yeah, Ethel Merman.
She came out as Ethel Merman.
(IMITATING ETHEL MERMAN) Hello.
Hello, world.
(IMITATING ETHEL MERMAN) Hello, my dolly.
[LAUGHTER]
Kind of.
But it drove me crazy.
I mean, this is why our relationship as children
was not very great because I would--
But the answer to the question is you didn't have--
that's not--
you were free styling.
You kind of grew up--
that was your creative outlet.
This is not what I was hoping to do with my life has become
a professional freestyler.
But it was something that I liked.
You would've been great at it.
I made movies.
I liked to make movies.
You know what I mean?
She was acting and doing her thing.
I was making movies and freestyling.
He was just, this feels like it's easy.
[LAUGHS]
Right.
I'll go on a couple auditions.
I'll see what happens.
Oh, yeah.
And see, it worked out.
And then you fell in love with it.
It did.
But what do you mean?
Y'all hung out when you were younger, right?
Were you close?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, we weren't super close.
Well--
We weren't super close, but as we got older,
and we got into our party years, we got a little closer.
Yeah, once we were old enough to like each other's friends,
things were real good.
Yeah, and we used to throw crazy, huge parties that
were over--
Well, you've got to set it up because it was before--
we were naughty when our parents would leave town,
and we always had parties.
Right.
We had crazy-- yes, we did.
Mom would find out about it.
If a lamp was broken, it was like a real--
it was not good.
Oh my god.
I broke a lamp once.
I broke a lamp--
And it wasn't good.
--on Memorial Day weekend.
It shattered into a billion pieces.
And I think, right now, if she is listening,
I'm sorry because I have not told you about this yet.
She still thinks like a dog--
Right, she still thinks a dog did it.
One of the dogs.
Oh, wow.
But what I'm trying to say is as we get a little bit older
and started having fun with our parents,
then our parents came to our parties at their house.
Right.
Does that make sense?
Uh-huh.
So we'd throw the party, and my parents just show up.
But Kate would invite the industry people,
and I would invite the riffraff.
Oliver-- OK, Oliver--
And she would always get pissed off at me because she's, like,
who is coming to these parties?
And who is Jose Hernandez?
And who is Charlie Chadoff?
And who are all these people.
And that's when she'd be Ethel Merman again.
Yeah.
[LAUGHTER]
(IMITATING ETHEL MERMAN) Why are they here?
(IMITATING ETHEL MERMAN) Who are all these-- they
need to go home.
[LAUGHTER]
Wait, we have to take a break.
OK, are you getting confused?
No, never.
I just wanted to make sure that we're--
No, I understand what's happening.
He brought the riffraff.
He brought the industry people.
What am I confused about?
Well, it was a little-- no--
I have to take a break.
You can't.
Don't suck me again--
suck me in again.
[LAUGHTER]
Ellen, you weren't supposed to tell people that.
Right.
Don't suck me in to your story again.
[LAUGHTER]
We'll be back.
We're back with Kate and Oliver Hudson.
So finish the story.
I have to tell the story.
Basically, it went like--
I always just wanted to make sure everything worked out OK.
It's kind of like how we are on our podcast.
I just want to make sure it's a little bit more organized
and that it's not too crazy.
Oliver's like, let it get crazy.
It's fine.
So I'm standing at the door, making sure
that people who aren't supposed to be at the party
aren't coming in.
There's 400 people at my parents' house.
And I'm kind of freaking out a little bit.
The control freak in me is like, this is not OK.
And I see someone scaling--
just literally scaling an eight-foot gate
at my parents' house.
And I'm going--
I'm freaking out.
I'm like, this person--
and I see this, and they come off,
and they do a back handspring thing and pose down.
I'm about to yell at this guy, and it's Tom Cruise.
[LAUGHTER]
And I was like, oh, I didn't realize
you were coming to our party.
He's like, I wasn't invited.
He's like, I heard there was a party.
I'm like, yeah, Tom, come on in.
Wow.
So that's how he gets around everywhere-- he just
scales things?
Yes, he is Mission Impossible.
Wow.
It was wild.
I mean, I'm not kidding.
It was an eight--
By the way, though, at the end of the night,
Tom Cruise and Jose Hernandez were having the greatest
conversation.
[LAUGHTER]
That is true.
Tom Cruise is a friendly man, and he's
interested in a lot of people.
That's right.
I think Jose Hernandez also ended up the one sleeping
in the bushes that night.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, we woke up, and he was in one of Mom's rugs.
Oh my god.
Mom woke up, and she goes, who is sleeping
in my rug on the outside?
She's Ethel Merman too, I guess.
What do you mean in a rug?
What?
Do you roll up in a rug and sleep?
Yes.
Look, we have so much fun.
[LAUGHTER]
All right, let's talk about the podcast.
Yeah.
It's Sibling Revelry.
Explain what you're doing here.
We have never done anything together creatively,
and this was a great opportunity for us
to explore the sibling dynamic.
And we wanted to be candid with our relationship.
And honestly, it's been amazing, even just
for us, and bringing on celebrities and their siblings
to gain different perspectives.
It's a very important relationship
that we think is under explored obviously.
Yeah, and it's funny because even
we're learning so much about it as we go,
whether it's each other, other people.
It doesn't matter-- it's funny because we think
we know people, but when you hear about them
from their siblings' perspective,
you get a completely different feeling about who they are
or where they come from.
And we didn't realize, ourselves, how much fun
it would be for us.
I think it's been one of the most rewarding things.
Honestly, for me, it's been the most profound thing
that I've done creatively.
I know that sounds crazy, but it's just the truth.
Working with Kate and being able to talk about our relationship
candidly-- for some crazy reason, when the mic is
in front of my face, I'm able to be more vulnerable
and say more.
I don't know why.
That's fantastic.
It's been really fun.
And I love that you love it so much.
That's really great.
I love it so much.
It's been great.
All right, Sibling Revelry is available
on Apple, Spotify, Google, or wherever
you listen to podcasts.
So why did I list those?
Anywhere-- it's everywhere.
[LAUGHTER]
We're going to play a game with Kate and Oliver
later in the show.
We'll be right back.