>> Right wing commentator Steven Crowder, who seems to be as toxic
as he is publicly, in private with people like his wife.
With people like his pregnant wife.
Disturbing video was obtained by journalist Yasher Ali, and
it reveals that the commentator Steven Crowder is berating his wife.
And this apparently is one instance of what we later found out was many.
And this one clip, it's from June of 2021, and
his wife Hillary is eight months pregnant.
This is after a week where Steven Crowder announced that he and
his wife were getting a divorce and
weirdly asking why that was legal in Texas and why you could just do that.
[LAUGH] So anyway, we'll put that aside, but
then we all got hit with this little slice.
So take a look.
>> Drew a boundary.
>> I just- >> No, no, you just did it.
I drew a boundary at abusive and cruel.
>> Because that is abusive.
>> You are not taking the car.
Because if you refuse to do wifely things,
then I will go pick up the groceriesINAUDIBLE There
are no groceries and we have to pick Steaks, wood pellets, my grill.
I know it's not unreasonable, but I'll go do it I'll do it How about you first?
Hilary, how you respect the man.
>> Yes. >> The other man you see,
the mother comes back.
>> No, no. How do the man?
No, you're not taking the car.
>> Steven. >> You're not taking the car.
>> Steven.
>> You are not taking- >> Then I will ask someone to pick me up.
Who would you like me to ask?
>> What is that, a threat?
>> It's not a threat, Steven.
>> Get an Uber.
>> Okay, Steven, I can't.
>> You wanna walk out right now?
Listen to me, I can't go to the gym.
I can't go to my parents.
I can't call my friends.
I can't be home.
You're gonna take the car and leave me here?
Hilary, just think of how boxed in you've made me.
What did you need me to pick up?
I'll get it, I'll be back when I'm back.
>> No, that doesn't work either, you'll be back when you're back.
It doesn't work either.
>> [SOUND] [LAUGH] I'm sorry.
I really should have caveatted this story with a trigger warning for anyone who's
been in an abusive relationship, because that is incredibly hard to watch.
I think, just for me as a woman and
someone who's had felt like they were right in a bad argument, but
never like a full on Stephen Crowder is my husband relationship.
But there he is, arguing with his wife that she should go pick up groceries,
but she can't use his car.
That what is her respect for the man?
What does she think about men?
Sort of like asking a randomly and very misogynist question in the middle of this
fight, she acquiesces says, I will go pick up the groceries.
He denies her use of the car, there's a lot.
And then he accuses her of boxing him in.
If you're listening as a podcast, this is a woman with an eight month pregnant belly
who is engaged in this discussion.
There's a little bit more before I kick it to you guys.
She becomes understandably, incredibly emotional, tries to reason with him.
But when she calls out his abusive behavior in a very calm manner,
this is what he says.
>> The only way out of this is discipline and respect.
It's the only way out of it, when we're at an impasse.
>> We are at an impasse.
>> Good, cuz you can't have any discipline and respect.
>> Yeah. >> There you go, you throw your hat,
you give up so easily >> I don't give up.
Steven. >> You give up so easily,
I just said the only way out of this is discipline and respect,
you said then we're at an impasse.
>> Steven, no, we are at an impasse, okay, I love you, but
Steven, Steven, your abuse is sick.
>> Watch it.
>> Your abuse is sick.
>> Watch it, watch it.
>> I'm gonna let go, I'll get pushing what you need me to get.
And I need space.
We need to just stop engaging for a little bit, okay?
I love you.
I love you very much.
>> I don't love you.
That's the big problem.
I've never received love from you.
And the fact is, when I go, look, I need you to do A, B, C and D you just need to
be disciplined about it, you go, no, but I love you more than life itself, okay?
Put on some gloves.
>> You need to be disciplined about it.
You guys, I'm sorry to subject you to this, but there is one more piece of this,
and then we can dissect it.
But he continues to berate her for not being a worthy wife.
And again, this is a woman who's held back as she herself is being clearly berated.
>> Hilary, you're right, we're at an impasse.
Become someone, listen to me, day in and day out,
worthy, a wife worthy no matter the life- >> So you want another wife?
>> I didn't say the wife.
>> Hilary, Hilary, come on, now.
>> I'm not gonna engage.
I'm not gonna engage anymore.
I'm gonna go, text me what you need, I'll get you what you need.
I love you.
I'm committed to you.
>> Put on some gloves, are you committed enough to do those or not?
>> I'm not gonna engage.
>> Are you committed enough to do those things?
You're not committed to anything.
You just said, I love you.
I'm committed to walk the dogs and put on some gloves.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> Walk the dogs front,
are you committed to those things?
>> Okay, so some piece of context there is that he says, put on gloves,
and this is because he was asking her to give medicine to the dogs.
And she was asking him to do that task because she's afraid the dog
medicine might be toxic to her as a pregnant person.
It might be poisonous.
Turns out the entire relationship is poisonous.
Mondale, I just saw you squirming there, and it's really hard to watch this without
squirming and sort of being taken aback by this.
Just your thoughts?
>> Yeah, this is the Christian right for you, right?
His behavior is indicative of how they show up.
This huge, devout Christian is literally torturing this woman who's
probably passing PTSD onto his twins.
She's pregnant with both of his babies at that moment.
And that is absolutely disgusting that he's sitting there and abusing her.
And his codes tells me that he has done more to this woman.
Watch it, implies that you know what you're about to get.
Watch it, effing watch it, implies that you've done this before, and
you know how I will react.
Also, wifey things.
What is wifey things?
Do you refuse to do wifey things?
I am not shocked at this behavior from this person.
I refuse to say his name.
But I bet you there's worse that this woman has been subjected to from this man.
>> Yeah, absolutely, Mark.
>> Yeah, I always hope that these guys who pick up this online following and
who are flamethrowers, the way Crowder is,
I always hope that it's theater, that when they get away,
they take off the flamethrowing mask and they're just like you and
me, and they just do it for money or for clicks or whatever.
It's a living.
>> Yeah. >> But it's not.
He is a raw, aggressive, and, I think it's fair to say, old school,
in a bad way kind of man who sees his dominion as his home and his woman.
And it's disgusting.
I mean, it's nauseating.
And, as you say, to watch it is a very difficult thing.
But his raw aggression that he displays as a character on the air isn't a character.
It's who he is.
>> To be fair, though, Mark, his job really is the job of an alpha male.
It's hard to do that much Internet content and sit there all day speaking.
>> Well, when you put it that way.
>> It's like chopping wood, it really is.
It's like the same.
I'm pretty sure it's like a blue collar job, it's like driving a truck, basically.
>> Yeah, talking to your 5.1 million followers on YouTube is just like throwing
spears, hunting.
>> Totally, yes.
>> If you're yes.
>> It's pretty much a discus, yeah, it's an intellectual discus.
Changed my mind.
No, we have to make light of this cuz it's so egregious and disgusting.
But I wanna tell you more because Mondale hinted at it.
It does feel, although Hilary alleges otherwise,
that there might be some physical abuse.
Because Yasha Ali reports from his newsletter, I believe, his substac,
which is where this is reported, saying moments later, off camera,
after this argument, Steven Crowder, by his admission, would lose control and
scream at his pregnant wife in a threatening tone, I will f you up.
Which is what led his wife to flee the home.
However, neither Hilary nor Steven is contending that there was physical abuse
in their marriage or sexual infidelity.
And in audio files and text messages I reviewed,
Steven Crowder admits to some of his faults, which include a volcanic temper.
[SOUND] Sorry.
But look, his family has spoken out about this, and the reason, in my opinion,
that they've been speaking out about this is because Steven Crowder had
the audacity to openly talk about their divorce on his program in a way that made
it sound like there was no reason that his wife was seeking said divorce, right?
And that it should, for some reason, she just wants out of it.
And now we're flirting with, I don't know if you could call it defamation legally,
but we're flirting with, for sure,
a disparaging of character when he could have chosen to say nothing at all.
So Hilary's family spoke out to Yasher Ali, this journalist and said, quote,
the truth is that Hilary spent years hiding Steven's mentally and
emotionally abusive behavior from her friends and
family while she attempted to save their marriage.
She was the one who was asking to work on their relationship
to keep the marriage intact for their unborn children.
In June of 2021, Steve left their home to pursue elective surgery.
Hilary urged him to get the help he needed to address his abuse with the hope that
their marriage could be saved and
they could peacefully live together as a family.
Instead, Steven refused to do so and
chose not to be with his wife during the birth of their twin children.
There is more.
After the birth, which I guess he eventually got to, he bought a townhouse,
left their home permanently.
Hilary was unaware that Steven had hired a divorce attorney and
asked his assistant to cut Hilary off financially.
There's significant documentation substantiating these facts.
You cut off the mother of your children from getting money, and
this is someone who I mean, clearly you don't do the grocery shopping.
Clearly, that was the whole fight.
He didn't wanna do the grocery shopping, so
who's gonna go get it's all kinds of disgusting.
And of course, this is the guy that he is.
However, he's alleged that women who are under the thumb of
a strong male, who just stay at home, are happy.
They love serving their husbands.
Here he is in November of 2021,
just months after this one particular fight on his show.
>> Every issue that you complain about women, legitimately, and I am empathetic
toward you, I have a White woman wife, just to be clear, hashtag White woman.
I have a wife who's a stay at home mom now, and she used to be a professional,
though I have some experience with this, living with a woman and
what it is that she has valued and where she has found herself happier.
Take pride in your job, absolutely.
But take pride in being a mother, too.
Take pride in being a wife, too.
Do you not want your husband to take pride in being a good husband, being a faithful
husband, being a loving husband, the qualities that you admire in a man?
Take pride in being a wife and a mother, not just a career.
You can take pride in either or, but generally speaking, not both.
You can't have it all.
>> [LAUGH] I can't say what I want to say without this entire
show being demonetized, but he can f off forever.
I am a mom and a wife, and I also have a career, and I'm trying to have it all.
But of course, you and your ideology and your party,
holds women back on purpose because you're so effing scared of what would happen
if you actually compensated and helped new parents and moms adequately.
You're so scared what would happen if they actually were be
able to have a little bit more liberty and
freedom like the action of leaving your ass, you know what I'm saying?
He deserves it, he deserves everything that's coming to him, people.
But of course, Mark,
he's gonna monetize this, don't you think we know the YouTube algorithm?
He's just gonna be like, yeah, [SOUND] >> Well, I mean,
I'll tell you that the video is damning, though.
I mean, you see her deescalating the situation, really.
I mean, persistently trying to deescalate that situation, and
all he's doing is throwing gas on the fire.
>> Right.
>> The video is damning, and it's gonna chase him for a while, I think.
>> Yes.
>> But you know, the problem, though, is his audience,
the people he's talking to are Donald Trump folk, right?
Like, these people don't care about this.
They think she should have stayed home and been happy.
These are women that probably go to work themselves, still watching and
clicking him.
We saw what Tucker Carlson said about his viewers.
We just know that this is how they see the world and they're okay with it.
It's not just an ideology, it's a way of living.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
And I just wanna like, again,
we saw earlier in this program the way that Republican women can stand
up to Republican men when it comes to their bodily autonomy.
And I hope that people like Hilary and others can stand up to their misogynist,
chauvinist right wingers who are making millions off of saying
that women should just be happy staying in the home and no, no, no,
no, yeah, staying with you is a whole other thing, buddy.
>> [LAUGH] >> But all to say, come get your girls,
ladies.
You could still be for big tax breaks.
You could still, hell, you can still be kind of racist, but
just ditch these dudes.