I saw this clip this morning and I thought surely it's out of context and it's not,
here's a short clip of us seeing Harris on the Young Turds talking about eating
the babies.
>> Why can't we eat babies?
What's wrong with eating babies?
If we've got extra babies around that, nobody wants, why can't we eat?
>> Alex Jones, went deep into the TYT archives and
is now claiming that a clip from an interview that Jenkins did with
Sam Harris back in 2014 is proof that liberals eat babies.
Of course, let's watch more.
>> He says, why don't we just start eating babies?
We've got all this extra baby parts millions we kill every year,
why don't we just eat them?
So that's the next evolution and
you will eat the bugs as you will eat the dead babies example,
I often uses and we want to get to ethical bedrock.
We should be able to say things like, why can't we eat babies?
There are sometimes extra babies in the world,
they're full of protein can't we eat them?
It's not a conversation making babies, it's a conversation about how
you can close the door to this idea that we both recognize as repellent.
And well, we recognize that it's the way there are people out there who will say,
hey, Sam Harris is a guy who wonders can we eat babies and
that's what the new world order is setting up.
>> Let's get one thing straight here.
There's only one individual involved in this entire story who looks like he
might eat babies and it ain't Sam Harris, definitely Alex Jones.
In fact, interesting Vice News headline from 2020
increasingly desperate Alex Jones says he will kill and
eat his neighbors and what, I believe him Jake back to you.
>> [LAUGH].
Okay, so guys in that clip I was having a discussion slash debating
Sam Harris first of all, I mean let's break down all the insanity of Alex Jones.
Number one, in that context, Sam Harris was not the liberal,
he was the conservative arguing that Muslims are different and
that they should be treated differently.
Now he has he's semi-famous for his thought experiments and
one of his thought experiments.
Well, if Muslims are going to attack us, maybe we should nuke them first, okay?
And that one he says, no, no, don't take me seriously, don't take him seriously,
but we broke it down and I'm like,
it sounds like you're asking people to take it seriously Sam.
And it doesn't seem like a thought experiment and that's why he was giving
an example of an absurd thought experiment of eating babies.
And if you notice in the court that shows Red Sam Harris says that we both
recognize as a repellent idea, but that's not what Alex Jones focused on and
he knows that he sells us on his brain pills.
He knows they didn't notice that part, he kept going out and he was a baby.
He was the whole point of that so called thought experiment by Sam Harris.
Who I was debating, who I was against, is that of course you're nobody in
their right mind would want to eat babies or their neighbors, okay?
And that was the whole point of him stating that.
I mean if you wanna do character assassinations of Sam Harris,
I can't stand his thoughts on Muslims and how he differentiates, etcetera.
But I'm not on board for that I was opposed to him.
Look at this, look at this folks, okay?
We've come full circle Ugur sticking up for
Sam here against the defamation coming from Alex Jones.
>> Isn't that hilarious?
I know but I love it, I love it because it shows how fair you are, right?
Now, with that said, let's actually show you the clip in context.
Let's watch.
>> In the context of having a philosophical discussion about ethics and
right and wrong,
you can say many things that seem crazy outside of a philosophy seminar.
But in philosophy seminar are totally legitimate.
So in a philosophy seminar, you can say, why can't we eat babies?
What's wrong with eating babies?
If we've got extra babies around that nobody wants,
why can't we eat them, right?
That is a completely insane thing to say in the world,
seemingly, that's the kind of thing that if quoted out of context.
Glenn Greenwald decides to tweet Sam Harris can't figure out why we can't eat
babies, right?
It makes me look like an [INAUDIBLE], but the reality is that if you're trying
to get to the bedrock about the ethics of good and evil and the use of force.
If you're trying to just then then starting the conversation with why can't
we eat babies?
What you give me an ethical argument, but why this is really, really wrong?
Why our intuitions of its wrongness can be conserved?
That is a totally legitimate thing to do, and it's not a philosopher on
Earth who would think you were a weirdo for having that conversation.
There, you have it, it's in context,
I really don't wanna get into like discussing the debate itself.
>> No, but let me I do wanna say a bunch of things here.
So, first of all, did Alex Jones tell you guys if you're in his
audience that Sam Harris started in a philosophy seminar?
You would debate this because it's an absurd idea that philosophers
would debate because it's absurd.
No, he didn't tell you that, right?
And he said in the middle of that clip, I could be taken out of context.
And Sam Harris back then, I don't know what he is now, I haven't heard from in
a long, long time, was obsessed about being taken out of context.
And even though he said it in that actual part for the first time in his life,
he was actually taken out of context by Alex Jones.
[LAUGH].
>> Yeah. >> He's like, take it out of context,
that's a good idea.
I'm gonna do that right now, I'm gonna take out the part about the philosophy
seminar, I'm gonna take out the part about the out of context and
I'm gonna repeat eating babies 28 times.
Eating babies, eating babies, the liberals wanna eat, he's the conservative in
the debate you schmuck okay no, he didn't wanna eat babies.
Now there, if you don't remember and God bless you for
not remembering all the way back then.
Sam Harris would say outrageous things that he actually did mean and
then he would say, no, you can't ever criticize me for
saying that coz it's taking me out of context.
The only way that you could do that is if you've read every book of mine.
>> I remember that, yap.
>> And put all of my comments into your explanation of my one thing.
But guys, it was not the 90% of it, was not about thought experiments at all.
He would say back then, I don't know what he thinks now that Islam was worse
than the other religions were both atheists, both me and Sam, right?
And the essence of that debate was no, all religion is just factually incorrect,
that was my position.
So nothing is worse than the other.
And in fact in the middle of that debate, he admitted, yeah,
the old testament is the most violent of the text by a lot, right?
And his position was yes, yes, that's all true but the Muslims are worse.
He'll tell you me, he'll tell you, I'm taking them out of context, okay?
You can watch the three hour debate, but what you will not find there is
a legitimate argument for actually eating babies.
>> Yes, exactly.
No, and I love how Alex Jones starts the hatchet job with,
I thought this was out of context, but it's not.
>> Even, you know why you thought it was out of context because he said it in that
sentence that you edited out, okay?
That is amazing.
But Sam, by the way, congratulations.
You finally got a picture perfect case of someone taking you out of context.
>> Yes that's exactly right.
Now we know what Alex Jones is, who he is, what he does, has no problem.
Not only defaming Sam Harris, but defaming the grieving family members whose
children were slaughtered in a mass shooting the sandy hook shooting.
And he was successfully sued for defamation as a result of that.
So what could potentially make someone even worse than
Alex Jones is groveling to him and sucking up to him after
we know who Alex Jones is, would anyone do that?
I know of one person, let's watch.
Ask him if he regrets spitting on Alex Jones.
>> Yes. >> I hope so, you do?
>> Yeah, my story is that I had some iced tea in my mouth, which is true and
I went up and you know, Alex Jones is funny, you can't deny that he's not funny.
And when I got up there he literally said, hey, I'm just trying to be nice, and
that was so funny, I had a spit take and that's what happened.
But he quit, he went, he walked away immediately afterwards, so
it worked it can it diffused the system.
>> But you're saying you didn't just like spit on him out of anger,
is that what it is?
>> My story is that he was being very funny and
it was an involuntary spit take and I do regret it.
[NOISE].
>> He's so pathetic, he's so funny, Alex jones is so funny, I love Alex Jones is so
funny, so good, please don't be mad at me for spitting at Alex Jones.
So pathetic, pathetic.
>> Yeah, you see his mouth go [INAUDIBLE].
[LAUGH].
But guys get a load of how crazy American politics is, because in that
Sam Harris clip, he said that Glenn Greenwald would take him out of context,
coz back then Sam Harris was a conservative.
>> I know.
>> Again, I don't know what he is now, and Glenn Greenwald was a progressive.
I know.
>> But now Glenn Greenwald is a conservative who does puff pieces on
Alex Jones, okay?
>> I know I hate everybody.
And Jimmy back then was pretending to be a progressive who was such
a badass that he went spit on Alex Jones, that's his original take on it.
Now, notice what he said, he said, my story is,
says my story, who says my story is?
>> By the way.
>> The guy who's seen the David knows and he was there,
he knows he spit on him on purpose, not because he thought he was so funny.
>> Yeah, and look, I've got no love for Alex Jones,
as you guys know, but I've always wanted to say this and I never have,
and I finally get to what jimmy door did there was so weaselly, right?
Coz he just swooped in, spit real quick and ran away like a little bitch,
because that's what that's what Jimmy door is.
He's a little bitch okay?
He follows the money, he's a little weasel, just so sad.
>> So back then a lot of people ask me to condemn Jimmy because we didn't do
anything wrong.
Alex Jones trespassed on our said and if you're a crazy Alex Jones fan,
you were like, yeah, he owns all sets and
he should do whatever the hell he wants, and he's okay to be a lunatic.
But most people were decent, insane, people were like, guys,
you didn't do anything wrong, God bless your heart, and thanks for
fighting back against Alex Jones rhetorically etcetera.
But the one thing is Jimmy shouldn't have spit on, right?
Coz they're good people saying, hey don't do that.
Well, I hate spitting on people, so I wouldn't know.
But I never criticized Jimmy for that, you know why, coz he was being loyal and
he was sticking up for us in his own way, okay?
and I can, and I remember saying, look, it's not how I would have done it,
and but he's showing up for the fight.
Now though, get a load of this, I mean now he's saying basically that the spitting
on Alex jones was a compliment to Alex jones for how funny he is.
>> He's a weasel, he was a weasel then he's a weasel now.
>> so you guys saw the tape man make both for Alex jones and for jimmy Dore, okay?
If you can't see who's telling the truth and who's not,
you got problems with being able to discern what's true and not true.
>> Yap. >> It's super obvious that Jimmy spit on
him because he was trying to spit on Alex Jones and back then he didn't like him
now he has to kiss his ass, so that Alex Jones followers will watch his videos.
Pathetic, okay?
Glenn Greenwald is out there kissing Alex Jones ass, pathetic, okay?
>> Yeah.
>> And now you've got Alex Jones making up weirdo things about Sam Harrison calling
him a liberal who wants to eat babies, absolute lunacy.
>> And you know what?
Thank you to you guys watching and supporting the show, because I get to say
whatever the hell I want, I don't have to suck up to anyone because of you.
>> God damn right, okay?
>> It's the best. >> we have independence here, and
we have strength here, we have principles here, and we don't float to see where
the money is and going around kissing people's ask for money, okay?
And we have that independence because of you guys.
All the members give us that strength.
>> 100%.
>> So if you remember you made us this strong, so thank you.
For all the rest of them who are weaklings and liars good luck to you and
whatever scam you're running, we're gonna point it out every time.