Okay.
So I went to bed last night thinking
everything was fine and woke up to the DCU in turmoil.
It was honestly like that bit in community
and it's one of the wildest stories
to hit the movie and comic book community in the last ten years.
I've accepted at this point that if I'm going to be a DC fan,
then I'm going to have a bad time and it looks like things are over.
The Hollywood Reporter dropped a bombshell last night
and broke down how Gunn is likely wiping the slate clean in order
to start off the DCU with a fresh start.
He's throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
and by the looks of it, everything's getting shelved
in order to start off a new ten year plan
that could be announced as early as next week.
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Okay, so over the last week,
things have been looking a bit suspicious on Twitter.
Reports flew about that black Adam was a bomb and the Rock replied
to this to show that it actually made some money for the company.
Was a bit of a cop, I'll be honest.
But then they made money.
Look, he can prove it.
Now, Gal could also put out a tweet talking
about her getting the Wonder Woman part.
Just yesterday.
And in hindsight, I think we can kind of guess what this was about.
Knowing what we now know, it is possible
that Gadot was putting out a post in order to rally fans together
and show how popular she is as Wonder Woman in order to keep her
job. This looks like one of those tweets taken before disaster,
and I think she clearly knew that something was up.
It's possible that she got told yesterday,
then put this out, and then the Hollywood Reporter
found out, which is what led to all this chaos.
The outlet stated that Wonder Woman three is not moving forward
in its current incarnation and that it's dead in the water right now.
Like like.
Like some suicide squad team member take.
But is it a weasel?
Well, Gadot may come back, but as we get into the video,
I'll go through why this could not even be likely.
If Gadot is out, then that means no one is safe.
And yeah, if you're going to be a DC fan,
you're going to have a bad time.
Now, to quote the report,
our sources say that Jenkins recently
submitted her treatment, co-written
with Geoff Johns, and that Gunn and Safran,
as well as Warner Brothers picture co-chairs and CEO Michael
DeLuca and Pamela Adbe broke the news to the filmmaker,
telling her the project as it stood.
Did not fit in with the new plans.
Jenkins directed and co-wrote the previous two movies starring
Gal Gadot, released in 2017 and 2020.
No Decision
has been made about next steps, and while costs are not a factor,
insiders say that DC studios will not have any other bundled sum.
Also of abundance financial restrictions.
The studio could end up
saving tens of millions of dollars by not making the third installment.
Gadot, according to sources, was on track
for a $20 million payday for Wonder Woman three,
while Jenkins would have received $12 million.
Those figures don't include any possible backend bonuses.
So two things going on here.
The movie's going to cost a load
like $32 million before you've even started filming.
And I don't think the company thinks that there's enough goodwill
around Jenkins and Gadot
to make this a sure fire hit after Wonder Woman 1984.
Geoff Johns has had an almost toxic aura that surrounds him as well,
and it makes sense that they wouldn't
want anything that's attached to him.
I think the guy has written some great comic books in the past,
but he's been absolutely terrible at running things and he's stuffed
so much talent on both
the comic book and movie side that it's baffling.
He was even part of Wonder Woman three in the first place.
On top of this, the reporter also talks about how
that likely shutting down man of steel to Cavill was back.
Yeah, but but now he's apparently out again.
But there being no contract signed and no plans at the moment
to integrate him further.
I think out of all the stories that this is the biggest blow
because it was so good seeing him come back for black Adam.
We finally had him back
and they've just been like, Nope, you can't have anything.
You're in scumbag and your family's dead.
You also just
left The Witcher to possibly focus more on being Supes again.
And if they drop the ball with him on that,
then I think it's going to be difficult for me
to really become attached to anything else.
DC fans have been through a lot recently
and over the last couple of years we've had the Snyder verse.
Then the start of Ash was
and Cavill and Affleck out hierarchy about to change.
Then the Spider-Verse could be back.
Then the cul de sac comments again.
The hierarchy about to change, then them saying
they're going to tell multiverse stories now.
Another hierarchy change.
With the Discovery merger, Batgirl canceled a new ten year plan
and Cavill enough left back and then coffee a family instead.
I think overall it's been so many changes over
the last year that this needs to be the last one.
And if it isn't, then I can't see anyone coming back.
It's difficult to get attached to plans
when we've seen countless times before
how much the plans can change.
And I think this is also another reason
why they're wiping the slate clean.
They just don't want to have this stuff affecting their universe.
But it means that the fans who love
the old stuff are going to lose a lot too.
Now, along with Cavill,
Jason Momoa could apparently be out as Aquaman too.
According to the report that these characters had a cameo in The Flash,
the highly anticipated time travel adventure movie that's generally
Sunshine's 16th Cavill shot as part of the cameo in September.
But sources say
there's a debate inside the studio as to whether or not keep the cameo
and if its inclusion promises
something that the studio would have no plans on delivering.
A Warners insider cautions that no plans have been finalized,
and that flash remains an unlocked picture.
Another reporter then goes on to say the Cavill situation is more
than a little thorny as the actor made a cameo in Black Adam,
a DC centric movie released in October.
The Monday after the movie opened, Cavill posted a video on Instagram
where he announced,
I wanted to make it official, I am back as Superman.
So that was a fuckin lie.
And the report then went on to say, Well, it might not be.
It might be back. We don't know what's happening.
But the reporter then went on to say that
Andy Muschietti, who directed The Flash, even expressed interest
in sitting behind the camera for something
that would have brought a tone similar to the hopeful
and heroic colors of the 1978 movie directed by Richard Donner.
In fact, the current leadership team at Warner Brothers Pictures
Michael DeLuca and Pamela
Abdi did desire one more go around of the snot averse heroes,
possibly even having another Justice League movie with those actors.
But that was before Gunn and Safran began
formulating their new and still influx plan.
So we almost had another Justice League with its not obvious actors,
but no corner of anything nice in this world.
Now, from what I've been told about Aquaman two,
they've also cut the Ben Affleck cameo and that on top of these
other ones.
The movie was screened earlier in the week
to test audiences and Affleck
was missing from this, showing that he might be out as well.
There's also the fact
that Momoa talked about how he was doing his dream project as well,
and many people have speculated that this could be Lobo,
so potentially we'll see Aquaman two being the last appearance
of the character, and then he'll play Lobo and the DCU going forward.
Now, if they're removing all these guys
permanently, then that clearly has a knock on effect.
I doubt Shazam two is going to get a sequel.
And the report also says that Black Adam two is unlikely, they stated.
Also unlikely is a sequel to Black Adam.
I just said that, mate. Despite the hype
surrounding the movie of launching a new corner of DC.
A lot of it led by star Dwayne Johnson.
The movie is only grossed 385 million worldwide,
and insiders at the studio say the movie, which costs
more than 190 million to produce, will be lucky to break even.
Even considering ancillary revenue.
Even if the movie does eke out a minimal profit,
any follow ups in herand rising cost them the prospect of a sequel.
Johnson hoped to carve out his own piece of the DC pie,
but multiple sources say his playing up over
returning Cavill and his own involvement with DC
may not be endearing him to new management.
Johnson and Cavill above managed by Danny Garcia,
who's also Johnson's producing partner.
The perception of Adam turning a profit or not is flag
writing told off that to it now being waged in public?
With Johnson tweaking the movie would net over $50 million
after a variety Story said the movie would lose
$50 million theatrically.
Now, The Rock actually posted a tweet this morning
responding to someone saying they can't wait to see what's next.
He basically said it's all noise and now it's sounding
doom and gloom at the moment.
I really don't think that Gunn and Safran have anything
completely nailed down.
It's kind of seems like the death throes of the DCU
and those who still want to be involved
are throwing out their calls
to fans alongside the reports to show there is support.
The article says part of the plan could entail a truly
fresh start and having no baggage from previous regimes
as they set about resetting how DC movies and shows are made.
That, however, does not take into account
the possible success of movies such as Shazam,
Fury of the Gods on which Safran is a producer and Blue Beetle.
Will that plan include forging ahead without actors
who inhabit those characters and recast them?
Even if those movies proved to be box office hits?
Not the end of the day.
You know, no matter what this report says,
there are going to be two things that factor
into what gets kept and what doesn't.
The first is whether it can bring in a profit or not.
Zaslav has been ruthless on cutting films
and back was shelved for a tax write off,
so he may want to do the same thing with the entire DCU.
If it's not going to make money,
then there's a chance that things can go.
And in the case of Black Adam and Wonder Woman three,
I can see why they're not banking on those being shared by a hit.
I would love to see Superman versus Black Adam, but the box office
probably has the executives spooked and they genuinely don't know
what to do.
The other thing holding it back is like we said, the fact that the DCU
has been through so many different planned changes and visions
that it's a complete mess at the moment.
Gunn seems to want to fire Hey on fire and nuke the entire lot
because he knows that it's probably a losing battle
and that every single movie that comes out
will deal with some form of backlash,
whether it's from the people who won this
not averse back or people who don't like the new directions,
there will be some form of controversy.
So I can't see why they've just decided to scrap the entire thing
and move away from the bad taste that's in a lot of people's mouths.
Personally, I'd love to see this knife is restored, but,
you know, reading reports like this, I'm
not exactly sitting there going, there's hope.
But you're telling me there's a chance.
There is hope every so often.
But maybe Gunn's just like, Nah, done.
Focus on this rather than having people run.
While the theories are pointing out how it could be coming back.
Now Gunn has an attachment to the old slate, too, with Peacemaker
and Margot, Robbie's
Harley Quinn being tied to that, which is of course, tied to the DCU.
There's also Amanda Waller as well, and he may even end up ditching
his own things like peacemaker in order to clear the slate.
Man could be doing his own.
Amanda Waller taking out his team.
If they don't fit in with the plan.
I think it's bad for optics if he can.
The other stuff, but not his own.
And yet it's just wild how much this shake up entails.
However, he could end up keeping things in place
and after the flash being like, Well, that stuff's still happened.
But there's a new universe with certain actors
that I want to use going forward.
Now, I don't think that the Reeves events will be affected by this
and that they can still do Batman to and Joker two.
One part that the Gunn Safran agenda seems likely not to touch,
at least for now, is the Matt Reeves Batman universe in which
Robert Pattinson dons the castle of the Caped Crusader.
Reeves is writing the sequel to The Batman,
which opened on March 4th.
The filmmaker is also overseeing the launch of two Batman
series that spin out of his movie, including The Penguin Dead On.
I like that now, Joker and Batman.
They did really well
and were widely accepted by the fandom
because they weren't
attached to the DCU potentially, and they were also good movies.
Obviously, potentially.
Gunn is seeing that and realize that that's the route to take.
But as of yet, I don't think anyone knows for definite.
And that's the point I want to hammer home.
Even stuff like Wonder Woman three is being rejected
because it doesn't fit into the upcoming plans.
But there is the potential that they can rework it
and get it in line with that.
Or I could just be completely kidding myself as per usual
and holding onto this hope,
which Gunn definitely doesn't seem to want us to do.
This could be the biggest call since the suicide squad,
and I genuinely think
it's impossible to say right now exactly what's happening.
They obviously haven't locked down the plan yet,
and it's kind of been like, let's tweak things, see what works.
And yeah, if it doesn't fit in, it's going to go.
Even the actors don't seem to know for definite.
And with shocks like this constantly coming out of the blue,
it's impossible to predict what's coming around the corner.
Gal Gadot said she can't wait to share
what's next, so there is hope that it's not all scrapped.
The story definitely hasn't finished up
and there could even be some things
dropping out of this video that debunks it and clears stuff up.
The hierarchy has changed, but whether it's for the better
or worse, we just don't know.
Now, if they do drop a big plan this month that scraps all this
not obvious actors and upcoming universe plans, then I think
it's going to be so difficult to market the upcoming DC films
that line up include Shazam, The Flash and also Aquaman two,
the latter on mode with controversy because of Ezra miller
and Amber Heard.
And if they're not even building towards anything,
I can see people skipping them completely.
It's a bad idea to market your comic book movie
by saying None of this matters,
and fans have become accustomed to having to see movies
they wouldn't normally see because there's an overarching storyline.
Let's be real.
Captain Marvel wouldn't have broke a billion
if it wasn't jumping off the back
of Infinity War and going into end game.
I think a lot of issues with the DCU
line up is the fact that no one cares
about these C-list heroes because no one cares about
the overarching storyline due to that not really being one.
A great round off has been saying this for weeks now, and even after
Cavill popped up in Black Adam, she said things weren't locked in.
The video talks
about a lot of things that I recommend you check out.
And personally,
I think they're probably going to end up
scrapping a lot of this slate in order to just start afresh.
Obviously, backlash is going to come from this
and there's already things trending like hashtag fire.
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Now, how would I handle that? I know. I know.
You're wondering how this guy who makes videos from his bedroom,
how would he handle these multimillion dollar projects?
This one's for you, James Gunn.
Get that no part out.
I know you're watching as well.
Now, I would have the flash set up a big Multiversal event
and then do a final Justice League film with as many characters
as he can get.
Earlier we talked about this not obvious actors being back
and even potentially wanting to make another Justice League film.
And I think, you know, that would be the final way
to close everything out.
Have them go against dark side of something.
Crisis on Infinite earths. If for all I care.
And then just end on that and then start again.
People aren't going to forget the last ten years of movies,
and I think it makes more sense
to close the book on the movie universe with a movie, rather
than just getting reports coming out like the DC use of
We kill the entire family, we kill off control.
You kill him. I told you I'd kill them all.
I want to, but that's all really making
that much money at the moment.
So whether they'd even invest in
something like that remains to be seen.
I think a big reason Wonder Woman three was scrapped
was because the money they'd have to pay out
and if it didn't turn a profit, it's another feather out to them.
So let's hope we get something
that's still, you know, give these guys a send off.
They've been doing it ten years and they've been messed around
so much that I just want to say something that closes the book.
If it is going to be close to
I just kind of feel bad for the fans and actors
and they've stuck with this universe.
And Cavill
even dropped out of The Witcher season three potentially to do this.
I know there was some stuff
about him being unhappy with the scripts
and how it wasn't really
like the books but thing and this Superman thing
would have definitely swayed him too.
So yeah, just a big of a whole by the sounds of it.
And I do love the casting ideas for what you want to see going forward.
Grace mentioned that people would love to see Anya TAYLOR-JOY
as Harley Quinn, and I think that would be pretty solid.
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Do you think they should start from scratch?
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