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I saw you in 25th anniversary all boy
admirers and in San Francisco how
actually do you feel about their having
such a event you know after 25 years of
you know just start my admirers well it
was really the only magazine that
understood that technology was a
lifestyle yes idea rather than just tech
hardware I think today of course
everybody gets this idea it's just a
cliche and so it has become mainstream
it was at one time a very marginal idea
subculture and now it's right in the
middle it's mainstream one of the from
the very first issue when Lewis wrote
his manifesto we believed that
technology would become the center
mm-hmm I see because we felt that that
was inevitable I see but it is much more
difficult to do something innovative
when you're at the center mm-hmm yeah so
that's we are at the center but at the
same time as us in at the same time
there is always these new frontiers that
are coming yeah blocked change Bitcoin
biotechnology they're all they're all
happening yeah so there still is a need
hmm to also still be on the edge I think
it is really important for Wired to not
change one of its most essential mm-hmm
characters and that is it's in belief
Earth's embrace of optimism yes okay and
so I think if you're optimistic and you
can still be at the center and report on
the edge I fan I think it gets difficult
if you become a pessimist if you only
see the dystopia if you only see the
things that are not working so try
especially in Japan seems like people
are really pessimistic not believing the
future is better than today otherwise
you know as you said so the innovation
will come from the concrete
optimistic reception otherwise you know
people just praying from the reality
actually people really getting not so
many people dying anymore and it's it's
the babies desperate is really going
down for last decays so the world
we're actually becoming really right
better that is till people really pissed
right back no we want to do that right
go home to me don't look at the news
don't read newspapers or TVs for that
but if we look at the scientific
evidence yes
it is very clear hmm the world's getting
better on average and that's because of
technology that's why we often neglect
about those fact and the people more
like feeling it's a good question and
it's because we read news yes and it's
not just the fake news that news by
definition is only reporting on things
that are unusual things that are as
outliers yes and the real progress is
totally boring yes the real news is
about what did not happen
I say yes okay the the the people who
did not die today the robberies that did
not happen
there's nothing you'll ever hear but or
knew all we hear about are the negative
things that's by definition yeah even
the good newspapers and so you have to
kind of ignore the news if you want to
be an optimist
my wife sometimes now what they saying
let's stop watching the news because
it's too negative yeah the worst is news
on TV never ever watch news on TV
we don't have TV in our house oh yes so
that's maybe when we ha ha ha
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