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okay now that I finally had a little bit
of time to reflect about what happened
in endgame and I've finally stopped
crying over Tony's death I've started to
really wonder about some of the future
of the MCU my biggest question is did
Tony kill Gamora
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Tony's funeral scene is going to be one
that sticks with me for a while Iron Man
is easily one of my top 3 MCU movies his
arc is absolutely spectacular and he's
the one who started it all truth is I am
Iron Man if you managed to stay through
to the end of the credits you know that
there was no end credits scene but if
you were listening carefully you could
hear like some metallic hammering that
noise in case you were having trouble
placing it comes from Iron Man 1 the
original when Tony was building the
first-ever Iron Man suit and now 22
movies later Tony is the one who makes
the ultimate sacrifice he snaps his
fingers to beat Thanos and dies in the
process and what makes his funeral so
powerful other than just saying farewell
is painting back and seeing all of the
heroes that Tony brought together it's
really Tony's legacy everything he's
built since he first picked up a hammer
in that cave
don't waste I've promised capped and
everyone is there from pepper and happy
to that one kid standing alone who is
actually the kid from Iron Man 3 like
that's literally the same kid same actor
and everything and I say everyone is
there and it pretty much is everyone but
there is one really noticeable absence
Gamora and it's kind of strange like why
isn't she there we of course know that
Gamora was on earth for the battle
against Thanos and even though she
probably didn't know Tony that well she
did want to see Thanos be destroyed and
Tony was the one who did that and
besides that nebula is there and she's
pretty much the only person that Gamora
actually knows in this time she's the
one who convinced her to switch sides
like don't you think they did the very
least be hanging out in a typical MCU
fashion they basically addressed this
not at all but they do later show
star-lord doing what looks like a
galaxy-wide scan for her with no results
which leaves all of us like where's
Gamora when you start to think about it
quill really has some bad luck right
like Mom dead dad dead nope
not dead actually a maniac girlfriend
dead hey she's back and then she you
know knees him and then dead again or at
least definitely gone or missing here's
my question though like how is this scan
failing to find her like where or how
could she even go anywhere for one it's
not like there are that many ships on
the planet earth that are capable of
traveling to space and the place where
you'd probably find the majority of
those vehicles is at Avengers HQ which
as we just saw was blown to kingdom come
looks like somehow Fanus misses everyone
who's inside like I'm not exactly sure
what happens when a giant space shuttle
shoots at a building but it doesn't seem
like all of the occupants just magically
find themselves really really far at the
bottom of the deep hole not just at the
bottom also alive all of the Avengers 2
miraculously survived this situation but
I have a feeling all of their aircraft
probably don't
and of course we know that Gomorrah
arrived on scene in Thanos ship which
gets snapped to dust so I'm betting she
didn't take one of those obviously the
guardianship does survive thanks to its
heavy plot armor but we see them using
it so we know that's not the one she
took and it's not like she left the
battle prematurely before all the ships
were destroyed we see her like right at
the end of the battle as all the girls
come together to help Captain Marvel but
so then where is she if she can't escape
earth and the scan that is taking place
on earth can't find her like how do well
there is of course one very important
thing that does happen in between the
last time that we see her and when we
don't see her at tony's funeral the snap
and obviously it's hard to know exactly
what Tony's birthday or rather death day
infinity wish was for but the end result
is that all of Thanos forces and the big
purple cheese himself
dissolved to ash and since Gamora is
nowhere to be found
after the battle Tony didn't really know
her at all and Gamora did arrive with
Thanos forces is it possible that Tony
snapped her out of existence
seriously poor star-lord truly though
this is dicey because you do have to
wonder exactly what Tony was intending
when he snapped his fingers and where
does Gamora
lie inside of that command is she safe
kill all of theosis forces kill anyone
who arrived with Thanos kill Thanos and
anyone Thanos considers to be an ally no
it doesn't necessarily seem like the
snap is quite the same thing
as a wish but we do see before Bruce's
snap that Tony is giving him very
specific instructions about what to
focus on when he does it that is to say
bring everyone back who was lost with
the snap but also don't change anything
else that's happened in the past five
years which sounds great but there are
some logistical issues like what if
people got remarried or like siblings
are now older than their older sibling
coming soon to a theater near you love
snaps back in any case that's the best
explanation we get for how the snap
actually works if you aren't specific
enough there is some other weird
collateral damage that could come with
your command for Thanos it actually
seems like it probably was kind of
simple like he just had the one goal
snap out of existence randomly if 50% of
all population so it's confusing enough
as it is and Gamora is even still a more
special case because she's not even
supposed to be able to be alive in the
present due to her adventures in
infinity war specifically when Thanos
throws her off of a cliff on for me you
may remember devastation aside this
opens up a whole other can of worms so
let's try to go over the rules of the
soul stone as we know them thanks to red
skull what he tells Thanos is that in
order to get the soul stone you must
trade a soul for a soul but it can't be
your soul it has to be the soul of
someone you love he also later clarifies
to a Clint and Natasha that the
sacrifice is eternal and honestly this
seems pretty cut-and-dry sacrifice
someone you love take the stone
no take C backsies by which I mean I
don't think that Thanos could to wreak
lime the mountain get up to the top and
be like hey I changed my mind can I
trade back please once it's done it's
done gone forever
accept it marvel so bygone forever what
I really mean is that there are at least
two caveats first is that despite the
fact that Gamora is dead Thanos is still
able to visit her inside of the soul
realm which is a pocket dimension inside
the soul stone is everybody still with
me and yes I do know that they don't
specifically tell us that he is visiting
Gamora inside the stone after his snap
but it has been confirmed by the Russo
brothers so there's that so some part of
her is still alive in there I guess
second caveat being what if you have a
bunch of friends who create a time
machine and bring it past you back to
the future and yes agreed the person who
died is not back but at least a version
of
you is and they didn't do this but if
you had just traveled back to the moment
before Athena sacrificed her on Vermeer
then realistically you pretty much have
the same Gomorrah back the real question
though is how does the soul stone feel
about you existing in the present when
you're not supposed to be you were the
sacrifice red skull does say it might
say it is a certain wisdom a certain
wisdom about it that's a characteristic
we haven't really seen come into play
yet but I'm just guessing here I have to
imagine that there's at least a
possibility that if the soul stone
realized that you were supposed to be
inside of it and realized you were
existing outside of it maybe it can like
suck you back in like what a past
Gomorrah is allowed to exist because
it's not like her sacrifice the soul
stone wiped her out of all existence
ever it just meant from that moment
forward so past Gomorrah is allowed to
exist until naturally at the very moment
that she doesn't but in the case of time
travel it gets kind of weird because it
might mean that past Gomorrah and her
morals and way of life are allowed to
exist until they reach the reformed
Gomorrah that we knew ie
once she becomes the Gomorrah intent on
destroying Fanus the soul stone comes
calling so maybe Tony didn't kill her
but the soul stone reclaimed her or
maybe we're thinking about this all
wrong and Tony didn't kill her with the
snap and now the soul stone is acting
like a kind of Horcrux for her
so in that case Tony did snap her away
but because her soul exists inside of
the soul stone it tethers her to life
except the soul stone that was either
taking her or tethering her isn't
actually even the same soul stone that
she was sacrificed for because we know
that Thanos destroyed that soul stone at
the beginning of endgame when he snapped
away all the others so okay okay so if
you are sacrificed in order to achieve
the stone and then the stone is
destroyed are you destroyed with the
stone or are you then set free or are
you still inside of the pocket dimension
somebody just blew up the door oh my god
the soul stone is so confusing for me er
doesn't even make sense what you make a
sacrifice to get it the first time but
then can it change hands and what is Red
Skull supposed to be doing after the
eternal exchange is over just like job
done also what do you think it was like
for him when cap came back to return it
like some not you again I feel like he
wouldn't be happy to see him and I also
kind of feel like cap wouldn't just be
all that willing to just be like here
you go here's a stone even though I
spent an entire movie trying to prevent
you from getting one like is it like the
Sword of Gryffindor where it can appear
to the person who is worthy but it would
never work for someone who didn't make
the sacrifice
but then Hulk and Tony didn't make the
sacrifice and they were still able to
use the stone but if you really think
about it Clint didn't really make the
sacrifice either if anything he tried to
stop Natasha from doing it
why didn't Clint even get the stone at
all is it just anybody that Natasha
sacrificed herself for couldn't use it I
mean that would kind of make sense
arguably the two characters she was
closest to other than Clint would be
Tony and Bruce oh so so so confusing
okay so let's just be real here
guardians of the galaxy three is in fact
happening and I have a feeling the
entire plot of that movie is going to be
tracking down Gamora so I have a feeling
some version of her is coming back that
said as a general movie goer I almost
want the sacrifices on Vermeer to be
absolute otherwise it kind of just like
undercuts the stakes of the movie so as
far as I'm concerned the old Gomorrah
that we've known from the previous
guardians movies is gone forever and the
new old younger Gomorrah is going to be
struggling with some kind of identity
crisis having just lost the only family
she's ever known even though it wasn't a
particularly good one or if her future
is already planned for her because it
already happened to another version of
her which does make for a very
interesting storyline if she does start
to fall in love with Peter again like is
that her choice or is it destiny
personally I would love to see that
storyline but more importantly the
soulstone is so confusing Jay my
question for you and everyone else's
where's Gamora is she alive somewhere in
hiding is she trying to figure out who
she is or did Tony kill her with the
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