Top story, The battle in Congress over raising the debt
ceiling could harm America's most vulnerable, wealthy nobility.
Economists from the human rights organization Goldman Sachs write
It seems likely that uncertainty over the debt limit in 2023
could lead to substantial volatility in financial markets.
Oh, no, no, no.
This is not why we bought both our nation's political parties.
Congress, this isn't some meaningless culture war like Medicaid or women's health.
This has real consequences.
Here to discuss is Pulitzer Prize winning editor of The New Yorker, David Remnick.
Thanks for joining us, David.
Great pleasure Rich. How are you?
Very well.
Now, David, you are an astute observer of democracies around the world.
Is it a sign of a healthy nation when a few barely elected
members of Congress representing mostly roving bands of coyotes
can inflict financial armageddon because it plays well on Newsmax?
Well, you may have answered your own question, Sarah.
I don't think we live in an especially stable time in our democracy.
And this this business about the debt ceiling is just a
symptom of how crazy things are in Congress, for sure.
There's a simple solution to getting Congress to raise the debt ceiling.
Wealthy people do their own January 6th.
I'll bring the exclusive Charmin
quadruple ply 900 thread count toilet paper.
Now, David, you wrote extensively
about the January 6th riots and the role of Donald Trump.
Let's listen to what congressional sisyphus rolling Matt Gaetz's
forehead up a hill,
Kevin McCarthy said after his resounding, humiliating victory.
I do want to especially thank President Trump.
I don't think anybody should doubt his influence.
He was with me from the beginning.
It was all in. He would call me and he would call others.
Oh, come on, Speaker McCarthy.
Donald Trump only has the suicide cult support
of a mere plurality of Republicans in 2024.
David, we in the media know that Donald Trump
could never be elected president of the United States, especially after
the January sixth report describing his disastrous presidency.
Back us up. No, I'm not going to back you up.
I'm afraid that a lot of people believe what he says.
They think that his attitude toward the establishment spite
as being a very rich man and being the establishment himself, but
by posing himself as this anti-establishment
figure, he speaks for a lot of people who are angry
at the managerial class, at the wealthy East Coast elites.
I'm not expressing agreement, but I'm saying
this is...this is why he has so much support and there are a lot of racists.
Oh, sorry.
It's not good to be racist.
But David,
remember how that one congressman wouldn't talk to Donald Trump on the phone?
That means he's not relevant.
And I'm absolutely not
desperately extrapolating because I can't handle counter evidence.
I think Eleanor is right about Trump's irrelevance, as described in my book,
The End of Trump, which I published in 2016,
as well as the Final Days of Trump.
Trump in Exile.
The Final Days of Trump, Part two.
Trump Is Done, The Final Book.
Now Trump is done,
The real final book. And the upcoming,
Now Trump is Done: The Real Final Book.
Updated edition with that photo Eleanor mentioned.
Now, moving on, David, as editor, you have final say over
which cartoons will appear in the legendary pages of The New Yorker.
Sarah and I actually came up with a couple of cartoons.
And just for fun, would love to get your thoughts.
Go ahead.
Okay, here's mine.
It's a dog at a restaurant
asking the waiter, ‘Do you have any dog food that's gluten free?'
Oh, you know, we have three baskets.
Yes, no, and maybe.
We'll put that in the maybe basket for the moment. How about that?
Oh, screw you. That is funny.
The problem is, you're too dumb to get it.
Yeah you don't get it because you're dumb.
If you got it, you'd be falling over laughing.
He doesn't think it's funny because he's a coastal elitist.
Disgusting. Real America would love that joke.
This is why Trump won.
David Remnick got Trump elected.
Undoubtedly.
Great, we agree.
Anyway, thank you so much for the feedback on that one.
You bet.
Okay, so here's mine, David.
It's a cat on the stand in a courtroom
and he says it's not indecent exposure.
It's how I take a bath.
What do you think?
Well...
You monster.
What is wrong with you?
That is funny. That is funny, stop.
You're psycho, that's what you are.
When Trump gets elected, which will happen because of your mind boggling elitism.
I hope he sends you to Gitmo.
That's not a joke.
That's what we want to happen.
Well, that's all the time we have.
Thank you to our esteemed guest, The New Yorker editor, David Remnick.
The New Yorker's edition of the January 6th report is available now.
Thank you, David. You're welcome back anytime.
Thanks so much.
Fantastic. I love him.