are they really inspired by a (G)I-dle or are they inspired by popular culture? I
should be a lawyer something like I'm pretty good at this
Carol Baskin! I'm kidding so today's video is super exciting because I am for
once not making the plagiarism accusations, actually never in my career
have I ever said that one group was copying another. "they're copying MBLAQ"
that was a joke by the way, before any more 12 year olds threatened to sue me
now I have gotten quite a few messages and been tagged in quite a few posts
about youth with you2 and their performance of Lion, but their own
performance of Lion, like it's not it's not a cover of (G)i-dle's Lion... are we still
on track? so it seems that a lot of fans are either saying that this stage has
been heavily inspired by (G)i-dle's lion or that it's just plain plagiarism and to be
quite honest with you, when I first saw the thumbnail and you know the title of
course, I did think it was a cover of lion. I mean both songs have you know
velvet with gold accents, both songs have the same title, you know just from the
surface of it all it seemed like a cover but then finding out it wasn't a cover
yeah of course I do see some similarities, so I thought let's look
into this because fun fact: I'm a journalist now. I have my own news show
and everything. gonna be interviewing Kaachi apparently. I've always dreamt of
interviewing a k-pop group just didn't think that would be it. so if we look at
the song alone, I I don't see the similarity at all. I wouldn't consider
this a case of, you know, plagiarizing this song whatsoever
you know (G)I-dle's lion has a more somber sultry feel to it while youth
with You's lion has a very energetic and lively feel to it however there are some
people pointing out that you know the theme of the lyrics are similar and even
some specific lyrics are being pointed out as kind of being a little bit too
similar, so let's take a look at that so in youth with you's performance they
say "to shatter all arrogant prejudices" and in (G)I-dle's lion they say "push away
the frustrating prejudices" so obviously these are English translations,
and I do want to point out that maybe in their respective languages they have
very different feels, these are things that I cannot personally confirm and
these are things that ultimately cannot truly be translated through translation
what? my point is there's like definitely undertones and language especially when
it's used for art and say lyrics. you know they might feel very different to
the native speakers of those languages and they might have you know linguistic
undertones that just aren't very well reflected in the English translations
and we are talking about three different languages here so I just did want to
point that out however if we're talking about you know similar themes in the
lyrics, I do think it's a little bit hard to have a lion theme without talking
about pride or overcoming something because to me that's kind of in line
with what we associate with lions with the animal themselves, there's a
certain level of power that we associate with lions or Tigers. Carole Baskin! I'm
kidding I'm not, no. we're not gonna go there. but you know even in Katy Perry's
roar you know she does mention lions and you know the lyrics are still along the
lines of overcoming something, she doesn't specifically mention prejudice
but we can kind of... I don't know I feel like we could also compare the theme to
roar but again different languages, different undertones. it's hard to really
translate that into a way that would reflect all three languages right? but
anyways let's move on to the outfits cuz I feel it's really it's the outfits that
really make or break this argument. if they didn't have these outfits, I feel
like they wouldn't really have anything to work with. they didn't really have a
case to work with here so as I mentioned previously, yes through the thumbnail
based just entirely on the outfits I thought this was a cover of lion because
in queendom, they have these red velvet outfits with these gold accents and
they've also worn you know black velvet outfits with red accents so to see the
outfits similarities, of course they are quite similar but then again I loved
lion and I followed lion you know.. a lot? even though they didn't really promote
it, but like I watched queendom too ,you know so maybe I'm just more susceptible
to you know, associating that type of outfit with (G)I-dle
because it's in my brain, you know it was iconic enough in my brain to
really make an impact like that because when I asked kpop shake like what she
thought she's like "well I don't really see the similarities" so maybe I'm
willing to admit that maybe my love for the song could impact how I feel in
terms of "is it really that inspired or is it not?" but I'm sure we all know
that you know pairing velvet with gold is not exclusive to(G)I-dle they did not
innovate this you know this is kind of like a royalty theme right if you think
of a throne of a kingdom you know you you'll think of these colors as well
you'll think of these materials specifically you know velvet and gold
and it does fit with a lion theme so it's tricky, it's such a tricky subject
when it comes to plagiarism or copying or inspiration it is a really tricky
subject because nothing is very clear there's a lot of ambiguity when it comes
to these things but you know given the timing I understand where some fans are
coming from and honestly this outfit similarity is very comparable, very
reminiscent to the Blackpink and Everglow outfit similarities that was kind of a
huge buzz back in the day people felt that Everglow were copying or inspired
by blackpink when reality it had been done so many times before in kpop and I
even made an entire video about it so make sure you check it out when you're
done with this one and you know we also see similarities with the dance and a lot
of people are pointing out this crown move and I've touched on that in a video
a long time ago actually where I show that not only does Itzy do this but
IZ*ONE has done it Aliya Janel does it quite often the
royal family has also done it so honestly this is actually a very common
dance move or hand move or whatever the heck, but you know just the dance alone
doesn't do it for me, just like you know the outfits alone doesn't do it for me
just like the lyrics alone doesn't do it for me, but when it's paired all together
again, I can understand how it makes people feel a certain way but I still
don't entirely know how I feel about this because how are we supposed to feel
about this it's a performance on reality TV show you know? if it were a
music video that would be one thing, a music video is definitely a lot more
tangible or if the song was like super super similar that's also a lot more
tangible and could have like you know legal basis to it but you know they
didn't really do anything that would put them in a bad spot legally. but also on
that note, I wanted to you know show another performance on youth with you that I
feel is also inspired by another kpop song and that is knock knock by twice I
feel like this performance is kind of on the same wavelength where it has the
same title as a kpop song the choreography there's definitely some
choreography elements that scream twice they're doing a cute concept with plaid
I know... but like where do we draw the line how specific does a concept need to
be to you know consider that it's like inspired? I don't think anyone's really
talking about knock-knock in the same way that they're talking about lion and
someone also pointed out in the comments how the produce 101 song yum-yum was
very similar to red Velvets ice cream cake which I definitely agree with but
is this a bit different because cute concepts are a little bit more Universal
than say a lion theme? so I guess the question is you know who are they
inspired by? are they really inspired by (G)I-dle or are they inspired by popular
culture? because Lions in popular culture could have inspired (G)I-dle but they
could have also inspired youth with you and a royalty theme could have also
inspired (G)I-dle but they could have also inspired youth with you, like where do we
draw the line of who is inspired by who? because the person who's inspired by
another person was inspired by something else as well so it's tricky of course
it's very very tricky and you know I have a source who's a very big girl
group stand and watches all of these shows and I and I asked this person who
is also apparently the person who hacked bye G's Instagram account and I asked
this person you know does this happen on Korean shows as well? like do they get
inspiration for their stages from other you know k-pop songs is this something
that's a common? or I don't know so this individual is kind enough to make me a
playlist and I'll show you some clips and I'll link the playlist down below as
well of performances that they feel have been you know inspired by other artists
notably (G)I-dle, red velvet and gfriend and they're all from produce 48
so you know watching these I definitely recognize outfit similarity it's like
the outfit similarity is some of them are very uncanny some of them are very
reminiscent of you know the artist I just mentioned but then again these
performance also show one element whereas this youth with you performance
shows quite a few elements put together that you know individually those
elements might not mean much but together might make fans angry but you
know what maybe just maybe these similar elements are on purpose because look at
how many views has had and I do not want to discount
you know the trainees talent I definitely think this is a very
energetic performance I actually really like this performance but you know let's
just say let's just say in another universe that it was similar on purpose
it would make a lot of sense right because look at how much attention can
be garnered you know from(G)I-dle's fans specifically, because in this industry
all attention is good attention and the more you guys are spamming these comment
sections demanding for an explanation or demanding for some credit the more it
helps the show's algorithm so you know in trying to find quote-unquote justice
for your faves, you're also promoting the song that angered you in the first place
so sometimes sometimes some fans are a little bit toxic in their behaviors and
it just kind of backfires on them anyways and I'm definitely not saying that
all fans are toxic and I'm not saying that youth with you too did this or they
have the intentions of doing this but in all honesty it's a really smart move and
on top of that it kind of works both ways as well like this is giving (G)I-dle
so much clout and I know you guys feel a bit upset about this but it's also
really beneficial for them if you think about it just like you know for the
algorithm and shit so another thing like the last thing I want to touch on is
fans sometimes fans do take it too far I
think it's one thing to point things out for sure but trying to you know bombard
and harass a show that is likely very aware of the situation already you know
I don't know I see a lot of people saying about you know they're deleting
comments this isn't fair I feel like if you're at a point of deleting comments
it's because like you know what's going on and it's getting to a point where
you're getting threats and you know not everyone is being threatening of course
I don't want to paint anyone like that but you have to understand that when
something like this happens of course there are threats of course it gets ugly
because not everyone is gonna sit there and calmly explain the situation people
know quick to anger for sure I've been on the receiving end of it okay
so you know I probably would delete comments too actually I wouldn't because
it helps the algorithm but you know I promise I would be annoyed by it anyways
I asked you guys on my community tab do you think youth with you's lion
plagiarized or you know at the very least was inspired by (G)I-dle's lion so
let's read some of the top comments by the way um second channel plug I did do
a listening party for (G)I-dle's I trust album so if you would like to check that
out I will leave it linked down below "yeah the songs melody is different but I
think there are too many similarities concept message styling a few
choreography moves for them to not at least mention (G)I-dle as inspiration plus
the lyrics are just too obvious (G)I-dle push away the frustrating prejudice
youth with you to crush all arrogant prejudice is just one example" "plagiarism
no heavily inspired absolutely and it should have at least been mentioned in
some way unless it's all just some crazy coincidence which I highly doubt" "pretty
sure no one would care if the title was different" "it's a song both are good and
have different message plus inspiration and coincidence exist which is something
some toxic films forget about" "maybe but I personally don't see it" "the melody is
different so let's not talk about that concept why is message wise no (G)I-dle do
not own but styling some dance steps and all of
these with lion concept these things together came after (G)I-dle brought up
lion so they definitely deserve the credit for that cube needs to work up" "plagiarized
is a strong word but they definitely got inspired by lion the
outfits, that theme some instruments from the instrumental the roars some
points of the choreography the title and the meaning there are some lines that
are basically the same with idols lion the main problem is that Soyeon worked
her ass off to create this song and the theme accompanying it while the rest of
Idol took part in exchanging ideas for the set they deserve credits" so at the
end of the day I don't know how I feel about that of course I did feel like a
sense of pride I loved lion I think that's their best era ever but then
again there's just there's just also other elements too like the fact that it
isn't a music video you know it isn't like an official song that these people
are gonna be promoting for a long time if that makes sense it is also a
performance on a reality TV show any of you that's a little bit naive or
reductive to say but I do think it's like another element that makes me feel
a little bit like apprehensive to really say that it's it's plain copying or or
plagiarism if that makes sense but anyways that's basically all I have to
say if you made it to this point you might as well subscribe I promise I'm
not this annoying in every video mostly but you know you can also subscribe to
my second channel where I release more behind the scenes things and I do like a
little listening parties so yeah I'll see you guys next time bye