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Honestly. >> I dare you.
[film reel crackling]
>> You ever done this before?
>> No, never. [Jason laughs]
>> I'm sure it'll be fun.
>> I mean at least we have a sharp ax.
We should point out to everybody,
the first thing we did was sharpen the ax.
>> When you're cutting down a tree
you're using the impact of your swing
and the weight of the ax head and everything.
The sharpness isn't going to be super important,
but we do want it a little bit better.
>> We should point out that we are using the methods
that are outlined in, which book again?
>> "Bushcraft 101" by Dave Canterbury.
They didn't have Bushcraft for Idiots that I found,
so I thought, this is a good introduction.
>> So in this case he makes a bunch of really good points.
He says don't be too liberal in felling a tree.
Like really think about whether or not a tree needs to go.
This one happens to be perfect because it's dead
and between you, me and the wall,
it's a little--
>> I mean.
>> I might be able to just push this one over.
>> Which, that would be awesome.
[laughs]
>> Let's be honest.
Well first off, let's talk about the safety.
We want to make sure we don't cut down a tree
that doesn't need to be cut down
and you don't want to cut down one
that's bigger than you need.
So this is reasonably small right?
>> Yeah, what was the test he had?
Like you hug the tree
and if you can tap your shoulder.
>> Yeah.
>> Then it's small enough for you to either try it alone
or try inexperienced.
Which we're definitely both.
>> I mean two of us make one person
so we're technically alone. >> Yeah.
>> No that works.
So this is in every way an ideal candidate for it.
Next up he points out
that you want to make sure that you know
what direction you want it to go,
that it won't fall onto another tree
because that brings its own set of problems.
And you also want to know how tall it is, right?
>> Yes, because you also need to know
how far it's going to fall.
How far do you need to run to get out of the way.
One method is to basically have someone stand near the tree.
>> Sure, okay.
>> You're about six foot.
So you can >> Sure.
>> kind of mark this off, on the tree.
>> Let's say that.
Let's put that on the Wikipedia.
>> You're about 6'3".
[Brian laughs]
6'4" depending on if you've got the shoes on or not.
And then you can just kind of gauge it from there
using like a mark on the handle of your ax.
There's another method though.
>> Oh yeah, he mentions like if you have a compass
that you're able to sort of measure a 45 degree angle.
At a 45 degree angle, you moving back exactly
will reach to the top of the object.
So however far back you are is what's up there.
I don't trust myself for anything,
so I'm going to use a tape measure app.
>> And we're modern rogues.
>> That's right. That's right. >> Or attempting to be.
>> I don't know how to use the app.
>> It's okay, this is how all the lumberjacks do it.
>> Oh there we go.
So it says about 150 inches.
>> What is that, 13?
>> We're going to have to math here.
>> About 13 feet.
>> Yeah, a little bit more.
So now, I'll go ahead and measure out.
We want it to go this way
and then I'll just drag it till we get the same amount.
So what do you think,
do you think it's going to hit our lean to?
>> If it does we can always angle it a little bit.
>> Oh you know what, it will.
>> Yeah?
>> It says that's 150 inches up
and it says right here is 182 inches.
Okay, so I think we're going to be all right.
>> Yeah, we should probably get it going this way right?
If we can, because that's some good
reasonably flat area. >> Yeah you're right.
>> You really need like 180 degrees of clearance
to cut something down,
but I mean when you're in the woods
that's kind of asking a lot,
right? >> Oh, sure.
>> Also if you don't care if something hits your wigwam.
>> I mean I'd like to keep it intact,
but if it does collapse our shelter that's good internet.
What we're going to do is we're going to cut your felling cut,
or your undercut is going to be opening up
to the direction you want it to fall.
>> Got it.
So this is basically making it
so when the base is weak and wants to pivot
it wants to pivot in the direction we got?
>> Exactly.
And so if we're going that way
we're going to put our undercut right about here,
right? >> All right hold on.
>> Here, I'm going to put on all the safety.
>> I think you should.
>> Everybody should have an escape plan.
So everybody filming >> Right.
>> right now--
>> No matter what happens, get the shot.
[laughs]
I'm going to do the first cut
and it should only go about a third of the way
into the tree.
All right. >> All right go for it.
>> I'm going to try to be more accurate than strong.
>> Sure, sure. >> Right?
>> Nobody's going to judge you. >> Excuses.
>> It's only the internet.
>> All right, all right.
[ax chopping]
>> So this is a good point we don't know how rotten this is.
>> Yeah.
>> And what I fear is that it may knock forward.
So this escape plan stuff is some real stuff.
>> Yeah.
[upbeat music]
[ax chopping]
Nope.
>> At this point your felling cut looks like it's aiming--
>> It's a little sloppy. >> For this way.
If you can just get it a little bit on this side.
>> Okay.
[ax chopping]
>> More, more to your left.
>> All right its supposed to be a Pac-Man like wedge.
You know flat on the bottom, 45 degree angle.
>> I think you nailed it man [laughs]
But the important part is that it's supposed to go
a third of the way in, right?
You don't want to overdo it.
>> Exactly.
Yeah, we just want a third of the way in
and then we'll come at it from the other side in a second.
[ax chopping]
Whoa.
>> So what happened there did it just bite in?
>> Yeah.
>> Hey who knew chopping wood was hard [laughs]
Here you want to take a moment?
>> Yeah, let's--
>> Okay, okay.
Yeah there's like a knot there.
>> JASON: Yeah, that's what I was saying.
>> You can hear it ringing.
Is that rebar?
Did this grow around rebar or something?
[laughs]
Whoops.
Ahhh there we go.
Yeah, changing the angle makes a big difference.
[ax chopping quickly]
Is it a third of the way yet?
I guess this is probably also part of the danger is,
you get tired and you get sloppy.
>> JASON: Yeah.
>> Then you start chopping your feet.
We need a wedge.
It's wedge like.
[ax chopping quickly]
>> Do we need to get the puck?
Sharpen the ax again?
>> Maybe.
In fact that's a good question is,
how fast does it decay?
I'll try swapping to the other side.
[ax chopping]
>> Let me know if you want to swap out again.
>> That looks like a third from this angle.
>> How many YouTube hosts does it take to chop down a tree?
>> So are we calling it?
That's a third of the way in.
>> JASON: You think that's good?
What do you think?
>> BRIAN: I think it is.
>> JASON: Okay.
Yeah, so now we what,
use the regular saw to go the opposite side?
>> Yeah. We've got a handsaw on the other side
that we're going to saw a third of the way in.
This cut is going to be about two inches
above the apex of our wedge.
>> Okay.
>> So, the back of Pac-Man's throat,
we're going to cut in there creating a hinge in the middle
that allows it to fall the direction we want.
Am I remembering this right,
like we don't want to go too far?
Because if we go too far
it's possible that it could slip
and kick backwards.
>> Yeah, you don't want shearing.
If it kicks backwards, that's trouble.
>> Do you want to pick us out?
>> Yeah?
So, like what do you say?
About here maybe?
>> You just want to make sure it's a totally horizontal angle.
Right?
>> Yeah.
>> [laughs] It is so hilarious to me
how ready to die this tree is.
>> I know.
Well, we picked a good one.
>> So, I would say stop well before
you perceive that you're at the one third mark.
>> Yeah.
[sawing]
We should've just gotten Griffin out here with our chainsaw.
That would've been easier.
>> Man Griffin would just show up
and give it a mean look
and it would fall right over.
>> [laughs] Yeah, probably.
Man it keeps biting as you get deep in there.
It was that rebar you were talking about I'm sure.
[laughs]
>> This definitely seems like one of those jobs
for one of those chain, two-person saws.
>> [laughs] Right.
>> Hang on one second.
I'm just going to apply gentle pressure
in the direction that we want it to fall.
So hopefully that'll open up that gap ever so much for you
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> and then we'll know.
We'll feel it when it goes down.
[sawing]
[sighs]
[laughs]
>> BRIAN: Do you want to see if maybe
it's just maybe far enough?
Just give it a push?
>> JASON: Yeah, let's see what happens.
>> Commencing operation tree pusher mark one.
Take that mister beast!
You can hear it, it actually is.
I'm just going to push this thing.
[laughing]
It's not [laughs] even where we cut it.
[laughing]
Someone's just going to steal this tree
in the middle of the night.
[laughs]
Timber!
We did it!
We are expert bush crafters.
I couldn't be happier.
[laughing]
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[laughing]
[crackling]
[ax chopping]