>> As wildfires rage in the state of California, Dave Rubin has decided that as a person currently
residing in the state, he is gonna go on Tucker Carlson's Fox show and show everyone that
he can make anything about identity politics.
>> PG&E strikes me as almost a metaphor for the destruction of the state.
So here's the utility, which doesn't really know anything about its own infrastructure,
but knows everything about the race of its employees.
How did we get there?
>> Yeah, the problem right now is that everything, everything, from academia to public utilities
to politics.
Everything that goes woke, that buys into this ridiculous, progressive ideology that
cares about what contractors are LGBT, or how many black firemen we have, or white this,
or Asian that.
Everything that goes that road eventually breaks down.
>> That's true.
>> It is not real freedom is supposed to operate.
What it's supposed to happen, Tucker, imagine if your house was on fire, would you care
what the public utility, or what the fire company, what contractor they brought in,
what gender, or sexuality, or any of those things he or she was?
I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
>> Who would care about something like that?
>> And right now we've got- >> Well, we've got a situation, of course
you wouldn't care.
>> The fires in California have nothing to do with diversity.
Like the fact that he has made this tragedy into some identity politics issue is beyond
me.
In reality, PG&E is a private company with investors.
And whenever you have a private company with investors, what is the most important thing?
What is the objective for those investors?
Return on investment, right?
The profit motive.
And so they have not upgraded the power grid.
They have not done what was necessary to ensure that the power lines were secure, that they
were safe.
And as a result, they have gone bankrupt several times, several times.
Because they have been blamed, rightfully so for a number of these wildfires.
And so as a result of that liability and as a result of the settlements that they've had
to pay, they've had to go bankrupt.
This has nothing to do with diversity.
And I'm gonna go into the actual numbers, and the details, and the facts in just a minute.
>> So that's a great point Anna.
I just last night on The Conversation, which is in the third hour of the Young Turks, I
talked to Greg Palast exactly about this.
And how poorly the utilities are run in Northern California, because they're private and nonpublic.
And so you should check that interview out at youtube.com/TYTconversation.
Bu that's the major point in terms of the substance of the fires, and obviously climate
change, which I'm gonna get to in a second.
But in terms of the main point about this appearance, do you see what they're doing?
Okay, so they always get somebody from that group to attack itself, right?
So Dave happens to check off a couple of boxes here, but the most relevant one is at the
end.
So yes, he's from California, he hilariously pretends to be some sort of liberal.
He says classic liberal.
>> I'm a classical liberal.
>> And I don't know what that means and I can't answer any questions about it, but I'm
gonna ahead and say I'm a classical liberal.
>> I'm the Diet Coke of liberals.
Okay, whatever you are dude, of coure you're not a liberal.
It's hilarious and preposterous.
But the main reason he's brought on is, if you notice the first group he attacked was
LGBT people.
And Dave's gay, so Tucker Carlson and Fox News goes, get me a gay puppet, someone with
no soul at all, who will betray the people, the group that he's in.
Dave Rubin, perfect.
What are we having him on for?
We're gonna blame the fires on gay people.
>> No, it's amazing, it is amazing.
And for all the accusations that they lodge toward the left regarding how they make every
issue about identity and identity politics.
In reality, the only person who I've seen in the media who consistently relies on this
identity politics argument, is Dave Rubin.
It's all he ever talks about.
He talks about the fact that he's gay married over and over again.
No one cares, Dave, right?
What I do care about is, if you're gonna go on national television to do your little grifting
maneuver, I mean in the very least, read something, read something.
How many times is this guy gonna go on national television and embarrass himself by showing
the entire world how unknowledgeable he is?
>> But guys, did you, I mean, did you catch the other part?
He literally blamed black firefighters.
No, it wasn't climate change that has the planet burning, all across the planet.
The Siberian forest is on fire, the winter forest of Alaska was on fire.
We've had this top 16 hottest years in the last 17 years.
The whole planet is on fire, but Dave Rubin and Tucker Carlson think that's the fault
of black firefighters.
>> People who are literally putting their lives at risk to fight these wildfires, right?
They're the ones that they're gonna point fingers at and blame.
It's just disgusting.
It's also disgusting to exploit a real tragedy like this.
I mean, so many people have lost their homes.
In the case of the fire in Paradise, California, about 85 people died.
I mean, this is a serious issue.
And whenever it comes to private industry, something that Naomi Klein says and Cenk says
it a lot on the show as well is, they will privatize the gains, socialize the losses.
And that's exactly what's happening in the state of California right now.
In fact, Governor Gavin Newsom has proposed something that I completely disagree with.
It is essentially a way of bailing out companies like PG&E who refuse to spend their earnings
on updating the power grid, and have decided to pad their pockets with that money instead.
So for instance, Gavin Newsom is proposing a multibillion dollar wildfire fund to help
California's utilities, private utilities specifically, cover mounting fire related
liability costs that have threatened their financial health.
>> Is their financial health in trouble?
>> No, this is- >> What happened to capitalism?
>> No, you guys, Gavin Newsom, I think this is a terrible proposal, and he should be called
out on it.
Why are we bailing them out?
Why should the California taxpayer bail out a company that has destroyed the lives of
so many in the state?
Why?
>> And we also have to pay for the cost of the fire.
So we have to pay for the cost of the fire, they don't pay for that cost.
So if you're wondering why we're blaming the utility, I mean, first of all their mismanagement
in terms of having to turn off massive areas of California's power over and over again.
I remember that's what I loved about this country when I first came.
I was eight years old and I couldn't, and I had come from Turkey where we would have
the power go out all the time.
And I was like the power never goes out in America, it's an amazing place.
So now we're in a third world country, not because of the public utilities, but because
of the private companies.
>> That's exactly right.
>> And it's not just that, the cause of fires is cuz if you don't upgrade your equipment,
it keeps falling in the forest, and that's what causes the fire a lot of times.
>> So let me give you some- >> And climate change makes it worse because
of the wind patterns etc.
>> The wind patterns in California we had the, drought-
>> And the dryness.
>> Yes, exactly, so let me give you some more details on what PG&E is guilty of.
And again, the idea of bailing them out is ridiculous.
So PG&E sought bankruptcy protection in January after its role in sparking wildfires created
more than $30 billion in potential liabilities.
So rightfully so, they get sued, because they haven't upgraded their equipment.
And they have to pay out these settlements, and then they end up going bankrupt.
Concerns about massive wildfire-related liability costs are also weighing on California's two
other major investor-owned utilities, Edison International's Southern California Edison
and Sempra Energy's San Diego Gas and Electric.
So last year's Camp Fire, California's deadliest ever, killed 85 people and destroyed the town
of Paradise.
State investigators in May concluded that PG&E equipment sparked the fire.
They're privately owned utilities.
And this is the reason why we're having this issue in California right now, in addition
to climate change which exacerbates it.
So for him to say that it's about diversity and black firefighters is disgusting.
>> By the way, this is not how capitalism is supposed to work at all, as Greg Palast
pointed out last night in the interview.
You don't have a choice of which utility you can use.
It's not like you're like, you know what I'm in Northern California, I'm not gonna use
PG&E, I'll use the other brand.
There is no other brand.
There's only one line that you could use for power.
So where's the free market?
That's why a lot of these utilities are turned into public utilities, cuz this is not a market
that has natural competition.
And Adam Smith wrote about this and everyone who's ever studied economics knows about this.
But it doesn't matter, we have such wholesale corruption in this country.
They're like, remember after during the Iraq war, they did no bid contracts for almost
the entirety of the war for a decade, they did no bid contracts.
What part of that is capitalist?
No, it's all an excuse to enrich the elite and the powerful.
>> I'm not even done yet, okay, because this number is important.
State investigators have tied PG&E equipment to 19 wildfires in the past two years.
And homeowners, businesses, cities, insurers, and others are seeking compensation for billions
in damages from the company, an issue that will now be resolved as part of the bankruptcy
process.
So they are guilty of sparking numerous fires.
And how is Governor Gavin Newsom going to help bail them out?
Our utility bills are gonna have an extra surcharge.
Okay, no, no, no, all of these utilities should be public.
And there's no reason why we should bail a company that has not only destroyed people's
lives, but destroyed businesses.
I mean, these blackouts in Northern California have really hurt businesses in the area.
For instance, there's a Halloween store that hasn't had power in the most important week
of the year.
>> We bring that up because the only thing that Republicans ever care about is business.
So look, you're also hurting business.
Look, one more thing from my perspective on this, and I didn't know this until the interview
last night.
Most of the power lines in a lot of places are underneath the ground.
But PG&E in Northern California doesn't wanna spend the money to put them underground, so
they have them above ground.
But a lot of the area they are above is the woods.
So when a power line falls, it falls in the woods and starts a massive fire.
Now, if they actually paid the money to put it underground, we wouldn't have as many fires.
But then their shareholders wouldn't make as much money.
And remember, they keep the profits.
But when a giant fire starts, they put all of the cost onto the taxpayer of putting out
the fire, all the damage that's caused.
And then on top of that, they go, bail me out now.
On top of it, I want more money.
So this is not remotely capitalism, it is socialism for the rich, and we're all sick
of it.
And in this case in California, it's literally killing us.
And then they bring on clowns like Dave Rubin and Tucker Carlson, to distract you with a
circus and blame black and gay people for the fires.
Does it get any more despicable than that?
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>> I can't wait to see those videos.
And Kyle Kulinski is gonna join us in that post game, so there'll be even more dunking
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