does the two thousand dollar m1 max max studio have a much worse cooling system
than the 4 000 to 8 000 m1 ultra dang that's heavy well today we
will find out on friday we showed you guys the full breakdown of the high-end
mac studio and its massive cooling solution that is dual sided as well as
the m1 ultra soc that is massive that thing is super impressive and you
know the thermals are insanely good it literally doesn't want to go above 60
celsius no matter what you throw at it today we will find out if this one
is just as good because we know that this actually uses an aluminum cooling
system that weighs two pounds less so i'm curious one what does it look like
is the heat sink much smaller do we have one fan or two fans also afterwards we
are gonna look at the actual thermal performance what temperatures we get
when we are maxing out the cpu when we're maxing a gpu and if you're doing a
task that maxes out both is it gonna get really hot above 90 degrees celsius just
like the m1 max in the macbooks or does that still perform pretty well even
though it has a much lighter uh and less expensive cooling system enough talking
let's go ahead and get into this so that ring came off much more cleanly than the
last one if you guys ever do this please be very careful because the power supply
is exposed you can get hurt make sure all the power is drained out
do not touch it do this at your own risk apple does not want you to be taking
this apart and take a look at that guys the ssd is still socketed and we do
still have that extra slot on the other side this is the base model with 512
gigs of ssd i'm not certain but i assume that everything up to the two terabyte
model comes with one ssd and then if you get the four terabyte or
the eight it will come with two because it needs that extra density and because
those are actually the fastest performing ones they're both similar all
right guys look at that we definitely have a different cooler design than the
m1 ultra the heatsink is different the way it mounts is different looks like a
much smaller assembly and instead of having heat pipes on the back side as
well those two heat pipes it literally just has a few little heat sinks right
here it looks like a nice mini version of that but let's go ahead and check out
the actual full heatsink assembly and the fans now it's helpful to know what
i'm doing this time i know that i have to take everything apart and if you guys
appreciate the efforts please go check out our m1 ultra shirts we have some
older ones as well you can use the purple code m1 ultra for 20 off we would
definitely appreciate it now one interesting thing that i noticed is that
the ssd is actually on the other side this time
on the right side instead of the left which means that i actually don't have
to remove it in order to take everything else apart and get rid of these front
usb type-c ports i want to also let you guys know that i did put together the m1
ultra i know a lot of you guys talked about it that mac studio uh took about
an hour and it was really detailed but everything works just fine all right
guys i got all of those ports out of there now it's time to break
the heatsink free that's what holds it down to the frame
and now for the moment of truth let's see if i learned from the previous one
and if i did all of this correctly it is
definitely way way lighter than the ultra alright it's coming out
and bam
there she is look at that guys i don't know does it look basically the
same looks very similar
i mean it is no longer front heavy though the other one it would just
literally want to topple over so this one's way more balanced now we have you
know the fans up here we have uh as far as fins i don't know
maybe a little bit less dense maybe it's identical probably identical let's go
ahead and take these fans off here
all right once again we have that wire that goes
all the way across just so it plugs in on the other side i'm not going to be
unscrewing that and take a look at this guys look at these heat pipes right over
here that go on top of the chip and then come into the cooler i don't remember
seeing that on the m1 ultra cooler that is made out of copper i'll show some
b-roll footage here but i could be wrong but i just don't remember seeing that
let's go ahead and take off this heatsink oh man
i thought i was going to get away without having to remove the ssd but it
looks like nope if you are going to be working on a mac you can't get away with
it you still have to remove the ssd if you want to get to that bottom screw and
now the very last thing holding this heatsink together
all right guys moment of truth all right
bam there we go wow
wow what is this is interesting okay so look at that
we actually have copper here your actual plate thermal
plate here for the heatsink it is made out of copper but then we have aluminum
on the sides it looks like for the memory if you guys see that it has a
different thermal paste than what we have here in the center has the same
black thermal paste that we had on the heat pipe section that split up to the
back with the m1 ultra and let's take a look at the m1 max
interesting wow okay
very cool you guys see right there we actually see
the memory modules the ram that's why it's a
different thermal paste on here and the actual soldered lid for the m1
max does not cover the whole chip like it did with the ultra
it just covers the actual uh m1 max right there
and then you know the components that are built in but their memory is
separate that's so interesting and then we have this ring right here
where it literally shows you the size of the m1 ultra die
look how much larger it is so this whole motherboard looks very empty compared to
the previous one
uh everything's just so much smaller less components of course do not have
the heat pipe some stuff's rearranged but look at that size difference of the
m1 ultra on the outside which is completely closed off versus this one
where we see those memory modules and now the question is
does this aluminum heatsink with the dual fans
and this different thermal setup a much smaller die
doesn't keep the system as cool as the fully copper version that i don't
believe has the heat pipes and it's all solid copper
well let's go ahead and take a look alright guys so now let's go ahead and
take a look at the temperatures that we get with this cooling system and the m1
max chip now i'm gonna go ahead and open up tg fan pro we'll have a link down in
the video description and they literally just updated this to actually show all
the performance cores we have the efficiency cores the gpu clusters
airflow sensors memory bank there's 32 gigs of ram all the ports that is
amazing now the first thing i'm paying attention to is the fan speed and as you
guys can see we're still running at 3 500 rpms max with a baseline 1100 rpms
for the slowest speed but as you guys can see apple they are running this
these fans at 13 26 13 27 they don't run it at idle just like the m1 ultra we're
gonna be comparing temps to that one let's open up cinebench here we are
gonna do the 10 minute stress test bam let's go ahead and get started now we
have a baseline about 33 degrees celsius right away we jumped up to 41 50 52
okay let's see if it stays there uh with the m1 ultra and that copper cooling
system it pretty much stayed at 49.50 it was super low uh lower than this and the
fans stayed at idle the whole time we're gonna see with the stress test is it
gonna keep heating up and have those fans ramp up and if this is
a cooling system that is not as good as the ultra now i know what some of you
guys are going to say down in the comments hey you took this mac studio
apart what if you didn't do a good job what if the results aren't correct well
i'm actually doing this test before i took it apart to make sure that i did
not mess anything up and the results are correct now you also would need to know
that this is the base model but the cpu setup and the wattage in the
course it's identical to the one that you can spend 200 extra for and upgrade
to extra graphics cores now we're going to run this we're going to run graphics
and then we're going to run both of them at the same time to see what kind of
temps we get if you're just maxing out both the cpu and the gpu and if we go
ahead and hit those higher temps like we do with the macbooks all right
guys it has been just over five minutes and we are at 59 degrees celsius right
now still super cool and that is the hottest
core and then as far as fans let's take a look here
basically just above idle a tiny bit above idle now with the m1 ultra the
highest end chip 20 course double the cores it actually ran at 58 degrees
celsius if you guys look right here it actually just went down to 58 degrees
celsius so it looks like even though the cooler is made out of aluminum not
copper and it weighs 2 pounds less the temperatures are still rock solid
it's like apple's tuning this for 58 59 degrees celsius practically the same
even though with our older intel max these things would be running at 9 500
degrees celsius so apple could probably shut off the fans of running right at
idle or shut one off but they're not they're actually running them slightly
above idle so our 10 minutes are out we're finishing for the last loop over
here and we're still running at 59 it just hit 60 when i'm moving stuff around
back down to 59 degrees celsius this means that if you're doing cpu tasks
xcode rendering photo editing exporting thousands of images
logic anything you do this system will be completely silent and here we go we
have a score of 12 310
and right when we got done it literally just instantly dropped down to 38
degrees celsius and now assess that the graphics i have 3d marks wildlife
extreme with the unlimited mode so it's off screen should not be limited by the
refresh rate or anything like that and let's see what kind of temperatures we
get our graphics card has been maxed out cpu is at 24 so it is doing stuff
44 degrees celsius is the highest that we see that is pretty crazy most
graphics cards don't even idle that low and now let's push this machine to its
limits we're going to start up cinebench we're going to max out the cpus right
there bam our cpu is maxed out i'm gonna wait till the cpu hits that 59 degrees
celsius its hottest point which is mind blowing and then we're gonna kick in 3d
marks extreme stress test as well alright guys we've been running for
about 20 seconds or so and this is very interesting first off
the cpu literally went from 58 degrees celsius 59 now it's just steady at 60
degrees celsius the graphics look at this 42 the hottest core the hardest
cluster of course insanity our cpu is maxed out now if you
take a look at something i just made a discovery
the gpu is not maxed out it's running at 74 percent of its performance compared
to 100 before now if you guys remember with the laptop videos we did we found
that if you're maxing out the cpu gp at once it throttles the system
down it literally throttles the frequency of
the graphics now i thought that was because of thermal limitations because
it was literally running really hot when you're doing that the fans that's when
you really got the fans to spin up but here we're running at six degrees
celsius literally is not budging 43 degrees celsius 40 back to 42 on the gpu
it doesn't care but apple is still limiting the graphics
performance even though we have no battery issues we are plugged into power
and there are no temp issues this thing is
running insanely cool look 44 degrees celsius right now is still running 60 61
degrees as far as the cpu and the fans are literally basically at idle that is
in sanity
so this proves one that there's definitely power limitations in play
we're going to be exploring that in future videos and getting to the bottom
of this and two that no the m1 max chips
they do not throttle they do not get hot the fans don't spin up even if you max
out the cpu and max out at least as much as you can the graphics performance that
is just blowing my mind so there you guys go you guys got to look at the
inside of the m1 max max studio we got to see how it compares to the previous
teardown that we did with the m1 ultra and how the thermal performance
basically axe which is shockingly shockingly good
wow i am impressed and also disappointed as far as the graphics not reaching its
full potential if the cpu is maxed out and we'll see how that
will affect some real world tests that do actually max out the cpu and the
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