LARRY: THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
YES, SIR.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG, JOINING ME,
GREAT PLEASURE REALLY, WELCOME
WEST VIRGINIA SENATOR
JOE MANCHIN.
SENATOR MANCHIN, HOW ARE YOU
SIR?
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THE
SHOW.
>> LARRY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
IT’S BEEN TOO LONG.
I MISS YOU.
LARRY: AS I RECALL YOU MADE A
COUPLE OF APPEARANCES ON ANOTHER
SHOW ON ANOTHER NETWORK.
WELCOME TO FOX BUSINESS.
>> NO, I’M JUST SO HAPPY TO BE
WITH YOU, THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME.
LARRY: SO ONE OF THE THINGS.
LARRY: I KNOW YOU’RE FURIOUS AT
IT, I’M FURIOUS AT IT TOO, AT
THE CRITICAL JUNCTURE WITH
RESPECT TO PUTIN, RUSSIA,
UKRAINE THE WHOLE ENERGY STORY,
WE ARE STILL, WE, THE UNITED
STATES, SOMEBODY, REFINERIES GAS
STATIONS WE’RE STILL BUYING 6,
650,000 BARRELS OF RUSSIAN OIL
ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND I JUST THINK THAT’S AN
OUTRAGE.
I KNOW YOU RAILED AGAINST IT
TOO.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT CAN WE DO
ABOUT IT, SIR?
>> LARRY LET ME JUST PUT THINGS
IN PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT WE’RE GOING THROUGH TODAY,
YOU AND I ARE OF A VINTAGE, WE
REMEMBER THE CUBAN MISSILE
CRISIS AND HOW CONCERNED WE WERE
THAT NUCLEAR WAR COULD BREAK
OUT, THIS AND THAT WE HAVE A
LAND WAR NOT SEEN BASICALLY
SINCE WORLD WAR II IN EUROPE.
IT COULD ESCALATE INTO SOMETHING
HORRIFIC.
WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AS A
COUNTRY AND BE THE LEADER THE
WORLD NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER
NOW.
I’M WORKING, AS I ALWAYS DO WITH
MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS, AND MY
DEMOCRAT FRIENDS AS ONE, AS
AMERICANS, RIGHT NOW AND SHOW
UNITY WE HAVE.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW
MAKE SURE WE’RE ABLE TO LEAD BY
SHOWING THE REST OF THE WORLD
HOW MUCH WE SUPPORT UKRAINE.
WE WILL SHUT OFF THE REVENUES,
EVERY WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN THAT
GOES INTO PUTIN AND TO RUSSIA.
THAT PRODUCT HAS BEEN COMING AT
AN AVERAGE OF OVER
500,000 BARRELS A DAY.
IT IS UP TO 670,000, YOU ARE
CORRECT.
AND THAT CAN BE STOPPED.
NOW IT IS NOT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT BUYING THIS PRODUCT.
IT IS BASICALLY PRIVATE
ENTERPRISE COMPANIES THAT BUY IT
TO PROVIDE BASICALLY ENERGY.
A LOT OF IT TO THE NORTHEAST.
A LOT OF IT OVER ON THE WEST
COAST BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY CHEAP.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE CAN
PRODUCE IT.
WE’RE DOWN A MILLION BARRELS A
DAY, LARRY, THAT OUR PRODUCTION.
WE’VE BEEN UP TO OVER 12.3.
WE’RE DOWN TO
11.2 MILLION BARRELS A DAY.
WE CAN PICK UP THAT.
PEOPLE SAID IT WILL CREATE
HIGHER PRICES IN AMERICA.
IT SHOULD NOT, REALLY REFLECT AT
ALL IN PRICING HIGHER IN AMERICA
BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT CAPACITY.
IF NOT, YOU KNOW, I PROPOSED THE
ADMINISTRATION ON THE XL
PIPELINE.
I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BUILT
THAT PIPELINE.
I STILL THINK WE SHOULD BUILD
THAT PIPELINE AND HAVE THE
PRODUCT COMING FROM CANADA, OUR
BEST AND FRIENDLIEST NEIGHBOR WE
HAVE.
SO WE HAVE MANY OPTIONS TO DO
THIS, TO NOT TO PUT A BURDEN ON
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS AND AMERICAN
CONSUMERS.
BUT THIS IS A TIME FOR US.
TO SHOW OUR UNITY BEHIND UKRAINE
AND THAT’S SHUTTING DOWN
EVERYTHING WE CAN -- I SAID
THIS, LARRY, IF OUR BAR OWNERS,
GOD BLESS THEM ALL, THE BAR
OWNERS AROUND AMERICA ARE
STEPPING SELLING, BASICALLY
SERVING RUSSIAN VODKA, CAN’T WE
AT LEAST STOP RUSSIAN PETROLEUM
AND RUSSIAN OIL FROM COMING IN?
LARRY: I LOVE THAT.
>> MY GOODNESS, LET’S DO IT.
LARRY: LOOK IT, SIR, I HAVEN’T
HAD A DRINK IN 27 YEARS.
I LOVE THE IDEA YOU’RE SAYING
WHOLE-HEARTEDLY ENDORSE.
YOU MENTIONED ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE.
I WAS WAITING FOR MR. BIDEN LAST
NIGHT TO RAISE ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE AS PART OF A COMING
TOGETHER AND UNIFYING MESSAGE ON
STOPPING PUTIN AND UKRAINE OR
STOPPING PUTIN AND LITHUANIA OR
WHEREVER ELSE HE IS GOING TO GO
BUT NO, THE MESSAGE WASN’T THERE
AND I THINK, WE’VE GOT TO GET
BACK TO ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AND
THEN THESE PRICES WILL GO DOWN
INSTEAD OF UP.
>> LET’S LOOK AT THE MOST SOLID
STATEMENT I THOUGHT THAT I WAS
SO HAPPY TO HEAR THE PRESIDENT
SAY, I WILL START THERE, IS
FIRST OF ALL TO SAY THAT WE WILL
FIGHT FOR EVERY INCH OF NATO
PROPERTY TO DEFEND THEM, TO ALL
OF THE MIGHT THAT WE HAVE.
THAT IS A STRONG MESSAGE AND I
APPRECIATE THAT.
I’M GOING TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT
AND THE ADMINISTRATION KUDOS FOR
BASICALLY WORKING WITH ALL OF
OUR ALLIES TO BRING US TOGETHER.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT FINALLY GOT
GERMANY TO PAY 2%.
WE’VE BEEN RAISING CAIN ABOUT
THEM NOT MEETING THEIR QUOTA FOR
NATO AND THEY HAVE.
WE GOT SWITZERLAND OFF.
SO BASICALLY THEY’RE INVOLVED.
THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED.
THAT IS ALL GOOD.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE.
YOU CANNOT BE THE SUPERPOWER OF
THE WORLD IF YOU HAVE TO DEPEND
OWN OTHER NATIONS TO PRODUCE
YOUR ENERGY.
I’M AT A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN MY
CAUCUS OR THE COLLEAGUES OR THE
PRESIDENT AND THEY HAVE A HARD
TIME COMING TO GRIPS THAT YOU’VE
GOT TO USE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
GOT.
YOU HAVE GOT TO USE YOUR GAS,
YOU GOT TO USE YOUR COAL, YOU
GOT TO USE YOUR OIL.
YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP WIND AND
SOLAR AND HYDROAND GEOTHERMAL,
HYDROGEN, ALL THESE THINGS I’M
FOR BUT I WILL NOT LEAVE US IN A
VOID, LARRY, I’M NOT GOING TO
BASICALLY GO DOWN THAT PATH AND
END UP LIKE GERMANY DID, TRYING
TO GET RID OF SOMETHING YOU
DON’T THINK YOU LIKE BECAUSE YOU
THINK SOMETHING ELSE WILL
REPLACE IT.
WHEN YOU GET TO THAT TIME PERIOD
IT DOESN’T REPLACE IT.
SO YOU’RE IN ONE HECK OF A MESS.
LARRY: YOU KNOW, YOU USED THE
PHRASE ALL OF THE ABOVE, THAT
WAS A PHRASE ALL OF US USED IN
BOTH POLITICAL PARTY.
>> RIGHT.
LARRY: SEEMS NOWADAYS UNDER THE
CURRENT ADMINISTRATION THEY WANT
EITHER/OR.
NO FOSSIL FUEL DEVELOPMENT
WHATSOEVER AND PUT ALL SUBSIDIES
INTO SOLAR PANELS AND WIND
TURBINES.
IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE EITHER/OR,
DOES ISN’T.
>> NO IT DOESN’T.
TOMORROW MORNING IN MY ENERGY
COMMITTEE, MYSELF AND JOHN
BARRASSO, WELL-HAVE A FERC
HEARING, THE REGULATORS, ALL
FIVE OF THEM, THEY HAVE
OVERREACHED I’M CONCERNING,
MAKING IT ALMOST EXTREMELY
DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR
US TO HAVE ANY TYPE OF NATURAL
GAS DELIVERY PIPELINES TO
DELIVER.
I CAN’T GET A MAJOR PIPELINE OUT
OF THE WEST VIRGINIA MARCELLUS
AND UTICA SHALE, ONE OF THE
RICHEST BASICALLY SHALE RESERVES
IN THE WORLD AND IT BASICALLY
WOULD HELP SO MUCH.
WE COULD HAVE BACKFILLED TEXAS
WHEN THEY WENT DOWN.
WE COULD BASICALLY HELP WITH OUR
LNG TRANSPORTS THAT WILL BE
NEEDED FOR US TO SUPPORT OUR
ALLIES.
ALL OF THESE THINGS SHOULD BE
DONE BUT YOU GOT TO GET THE
PRODUCT TO THE MARKET.
THEY DON’T WANT TO GET THE
PRODUCT TO THE MARKET BECAUSE
THEY DON’T LIKE THE PRODUCT.
THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE AS
AMERICANS.
YOU CAN’T DO THAT, LARRY.
LARRY: KEVIN McCARTHY WAS
RIGHT.
HE MENTIONED SECRETARY GRANHOLM,
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IS SITTING
ON SIX APPLICATIONS FOR LNG
EXPORT PROJECTS AND SHE REFUSES
TO RULE ON THEM.
I WOULD SAY, SIR THIS IS A
MOMENT WHEN WE WOULD WANT TO PUT
UP AS MUCH LNG EXPORT CAPABILITY
AND POWER AS WE COULD,
PARTICULARLY NOW WITH GERMANY
CHANGING.
GERMANY IS COMING AROUND TO OUR
POINT OF VIEW OR WHAT WAS OUR
POINT OF VIEW.
THEY WILL NOT BE MEAN AND NASTY
ABOUT ONLY RENEWABLES.
NOW IS THE TIME TO PUT THE LNG
EX-POVERTY PROJECTS ON THE
TABLE.
SHE IS KEEPING THEM OFF THE
TABLE.
>> MORE THAN JUST GERMANY.
IF GERMANY DOES DECIDE TO GO
DOWN TO RENEWABLES ONLY, COUNT
FROM WIND ON THE NORTH SEA,
WHATEVER THEY’RE COUNTING ON, A
LOT OF OUR ALLIES IN NATO DEPEND
ON LNG, NOT HAVING TO BUY IT
FROM RUSSIA AND BEING HELD
HOSTAGE.
NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, LARRY, RUSSIA
HAS WEAPONIZED ENERGY.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT.
THEY WILL NOT STOP WITH UKRAINE.
THEY WILL USE IT WHEREVER IT IS
ADVANTAGEOUS.
WE HAVE TO SHOW THE REST OF THE
WORLD, THE SUPERPOWER OF THE
WORLD, THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, HAS THE ABILITY AND
RESOLVE TO MAKE SURE WE BACKFILL
AND LEAVE NOBODY SHORT, NONE OF
OUR ALLIES IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR
FORM.
LARRY: SENATOR MANCHIN, LET ME
SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT AND
SWITCH TO THE SPEECH LAST NIGHT
DESCRIBING POLICIES AND
SPENDING.
HE DIDN’T MENTION THE PHRASE
"BUILD BACK BETTER" BUT I HEARD
A LOT OF THE SAME PROGRESSIVE
WISH-LIST RIGHT THROUGH ALL OF
THE VARIOUS POINT YOU HAVE HAD A
PROBLEM WITH, WE HAD A PROBLEM
WITH IT.
>> YEAH.
LARRY: AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I
DON’T THINK THE COUNTRY WANTS
THAT KIND OF SPENDING.
YOU RAISED, YOU RANG THE BELL ON
INFLATION LAST SUMMER, LAST
SPRING.
YOU WERE COMPLETELY RIGHT THE
ENTIRE TIME.
OVERSPENDING CAUSES INFLATION.
DEFICIT SPENDING CAUSES
INFLATION.
BUT YOU ALSO RANG A WARNING
ABOUT THE NEED FOR WORKFARE AND
ABOUT THE NEED FOR MEANS TESTING
THESE PROGRAMS.
IT IS NOT AS THOUGH WE’RE
AGAINST THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET
BUT THERE HAVE TO BE SOME
LIMITS, DO THERE NOT?
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO
MR. BIDEN COMING BACK WITH
ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROGRAM
THAT WAS KNOCKED DOWN LAST YEAR?
>> WELL, I WAS ASKED AFTERWARDS
WHAT I THOUGHT, I TRIED TO MAKE
SURE I TOOK NOTES DOWN I WAS ON
TRACK ON THAT I SAID THIS, THE
PRESIDENT’S SPEECH LAST NIGHT
WAS NOT THE SPEECH HE WOULD HAVE
GIVEN IF RUSSIA HAD NOT INVADED
UKRAINE.
SO THE WORLD HAS CHANGED IN A
VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE ALSO.
I ALSO SAID THAT BASICALLY WHEN
I SAID INFLATION IS GOING TO BE
A PROBLEM, WE CANNOT BASICALLY
SPEND THE KIND OF MONEY WE’LL
PUT INTO CIRCULATION, ANOTHER
3 TRILLION OR WHATEVER, TRUST
ME, THERE IS AWFUL LOT OF MONEY
THEY WANT TO PUT IN.
WE ALREADY PUT 5.4 TRILLION IN,
LARRY.
INFLATION, WE WERE WARNED ABOUT
INFLATION.
IT WASN’T JUST ME.
I WAS THE ONE THAT SPOKE OUT IT
EARLY, EVERYONE HEARD THE SAME
THING I HEARD.
NO ONE WANTED TO BELIEVE IT.
THAT WE HAD PENT-UP DEMAND.
WE HAD VACCINE WAS WORKING.
WE HAD PENT-UP DEMAND, BASICALLY
IT WOULD BE UNLEASHED.
ALL THIS MONEY WOULD BE
UNLEASHED ON TO THE MARKET.
AND WE KNEW WE DID NOT HAVE THE
LABOR SUPPLY TO MEET THE DEMAND
FOR PRODUCTS PEOPLE WOULD WANT,
THAT CAUSED INFLATION.
THEY WERE TELLING THIS, 14
LAUREATES, THIS WILL NEVER
HAPPEN.
I’M SORRY, THEY WERE WRONG,
OKAY?
WITH THAT I SAID BEFORE WE GO
DOWN THIS PATH, DON’T YOU THINK
WE OUGHT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT
HOW WE’RE GOING TO HANDLE
INFLATION?
BECAUSE THAT’S THE BIGGEST, THAT
IS THE BIGGEST DETRIMENT WE HAVE
TO SOCIETY TODAY.
IN MY STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA,
ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, LARRY,
7 1/2% INFLATION IS HURTING
EVERYBODY.
IT HURTS WORKING, LOWER END OF
THE SOCIOECONOMIC LADDER MORE SO
THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
LET’S MAKE SURE.
I SAID, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR
IN THE SPEECH?
WHEN I WENT INTO THE ADDRESS
LAST NIGHT, I SAID INFLATION,
INFLATION, INFLATION, ENERGY,
ENERGY, ENERGY.
I STILL FEEL THE SAME.
I DIDN’T HEAR WHAT I WANTED TO
HEAR BUT BASICALLY I RESPECT, I
HAVE MY ABILITY TO MAKE MY VOICE HEARD AND THE PRESIDENT, I’M
HEARD AND THE PRESIDENT, I’M
SURE HIS, HIS ON ENTOURAGE WILL
TALK TO ME.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP
WITH EVERYBODY.
WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.
WHAT I HAVE SAID, IF WE BELIEVE
AS DEMOCRATS THE TAX CODE SHOULD
BE ADJUSTED, THEN WORK ON A
COMPETITIVE TAX CODE.
THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING
IN RECONCILIATION.
THEN BASICALLY WE ALL AGREE THAT
WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT
HIGH PHARMACEUTICAL PRICES THAT
WE PAY IN THE UNITED STATES MORE
THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT ENERGY POLICY THAT DOES
NOT LEAVE US IN A VOID, THEN DO
SOMETHING THAT BASICALLY USES
ALL OF THE ABOVE AND WITH NEW
TECHNOLOGY BUT BASICALLY NOT
LEAVE YOUR FOSSILS OUT OF THE
MIX BECAUSE THAT IS THE
HORSEPOWER YOU NEED TO RUN THE
SUPERPOWER OF THE WORLD.
BUT ALL OF THE SOCIAL AGENDA
THAT THEY’RE WANTING TO WORK ON,
THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN REGULAR
ORDER.
THAT IS A MAJOR SOCIAL CHANGES
TO OUR SOCIETY.
I HAVE SAID THIS VERY CLEARLY,
LARRY, I’M COMING FROM ERA I
REMEMBER JOHN KENNEDY GIVING HIS
SPEECH IN 1960 SAYING ASK NOT
WHAT OTHER COUNTRY CAN DO FOR
BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR
COUNTRY AND I BELIEVE THESE
SOCIETAL CHANGES IF THERE IS NOT
ADJUSTMENTS MADE, WE WOULD HAVE
A COUNTRY AND A SOCIETY, SAYING
HOW MUCH MORE CAN MY COUNTRY DO
FOR ME.
THAT IS NOT THE DEMOCRACY, NOT
THE FREEDOMS WE GREW UP WITH,
NOT WHO WE ARE AS AMERICANS.
LARRY: THAT IS A LONG-TIME
FOOLER AND SUPPORTER OF JFK
MYSELF I WROTE A BOOK ON THE
SUBJECT.
I COULDN’T AGREE WITH YOU MORE,
SIR.
LET ME ASK YOU, LOOK, HE HAS A
LAUNDRY LIST OF SOCIAL SPENDING
ITEMS.
IT IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM
WHAT THE CBO SCORED WITHOUT
GIMMICKS AT FIVE TRILLION
DOLLARS.
IT WAS NOT PAID FOR AND IT WOULD
CREATE 3 TRILLION IN NEW DEBT.
I HAVE MEAN DO YOU EXPECT TO
CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THAT IF THE
ADMINISTRATION INSISTS ON
DRIVING IT THROUGH?
>> I HAVEN’T CHANGED LARRY.
I CAN’T CHANGE.
I MEAN YOU KNOW, I COME FROM A
TOWN OF FARMINGTON,
WEST VIRGINIA, A COAL MINING
TOWN.
WE HAVE FOUR OR 500 PEOPLE.
I NEVER REMEMBER, YOU CAN SPEND
YOURSELF OUT OF DEBT.
I NEVER LEARNED THAT ECONOMIC
TRICK IN FARMING TON.
AND I WASN’T RAISED THAT WAY.
THIS IS TIME WE HAVE TO BATTEN
DOWN.
WE HAVE $30 TRILLION OF PUBLIC
DEBT T CONTINUES TO GROW, WHEN I
CAME INTO THE SENATE IN NOVEMBER
OF 2010, LARRY I THINK WE WERE
AROUND 13 TRILLION IN DEBT.
IT IS MORE THAN DOUBLED SINCE
THEN.
WHAT WE’RE DOING TO OUR
CHILDREN, WE’RE WRITING CHECKS
THEY CAN’T CASH.
WE’RE PUTTING THEM IN A HELL OF
A BIND, I’M SORRY BUT WE REALLY
ARE.
WE’VE GOT TO CHANGE THAT, LARRY.
THAT TRAJECTORY HAS GOT TO GO
DOWN.
ALSO WE’VE GOT TO FIGHT
INFLATION.
SO WHATEVER CHANGES WE MAKE,
THAT WE HAVE SOME MONEY THAT WE
CAN DEDICATE, THERE SHOULD BE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT THAT GOES TO
THOSE TWO THINGS, INFLATION AND
DEBT.
AND THEN BE ABLE TO PICK THE
PRIORITIES OF WHAT WE REALLY
THINK IS NEEDED, HIGHEST OF
PRIORITIES.
IN CLIMATE WE HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR CLIMATE.
I HAVE NOT MET A DEMOCRAT OR
REPUBLICAN THAT WANTS TO DRINK
DIRTY WATER OR BREATHE DIRTY
AIR.
I HAVEN’T MET ONE YET.
THEY WANT A BETTER CLIMATE.
WE WANT BALANCE BETWEEN THE
ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE.
WE THINK THERE IS A BALANCE WE
HAVE.
WE’LL USE EVERYTHING THE GOOD
LORD GAVE US IN THE CLEANEST
FASHION.
THE ENERGY WE PRODUCE IN
AMERICA, LARRY, IS THE CLEANEST
IN THE WORLD.
WHATEVER WE REPLACE, IF WE
REPLACE RUSSIA, I GUARRANTY YOU
WHAT WE SEND THEM IN LNG TO HELP
THE ALLIES IS CLEANEST THEY
RECEIVE, IT WILL HELP THE
CLIMATE MORE THAN WHAT THEY
RECEIVE --
LARRY: SO TRUE, EMPIREALLY,
SCIENTIFICALLY.
NOT ONLY CLEANER, SIR, A WHOLE
LOT CHEAPER IF THEY LET US, IF
THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES LET
US PRODUCE IT, PIPELINE IT,
ULTIMATELY SELL IT TO EUROPE WE
CAN TAKE THEM OFF THE HOOK.
SENATOR MANCHIN, CAN I ASK YOU
ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE I
THOUGHT YOU MADE A FANTASTIC
CONTRIBUTION LAST YEAR ON THIS.
>> OKAY.
LARRY: THE IDEA OF WORKFARE,
WORK REQUIREMENTS.
>> OH, MY.
LARRY: THIS GOES BACK TO THE
BILL CLINTON COMPROMISE WITH
GINGRICH AND REPUBLICANS 25
YEARS AGO WHICH FIRST OF ALL WAS
ONE OF THE BEST COMPROMISES
PROBABLY IN HISTORY BUT SECOND
OF ALL WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE, IT
WORKED.
PEOPLE REALIZED OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU INSISTED ON THIS LAST YEAR.
I MYSELF ECHOED YOU AND
SUPPORTED THAT EVERY STEP OF THE
WAY AS DID A LOT OF MY PALS.
I MEAN I THINK WORKFARE, YOU
KNOW, WE SHOULD PAUSE SPENDING
AND WE’VE GOT TO STOP THE
DEFICIT SPENDING THAT IS
INFLATIONARY BUT WELFARE WITHOUT
WORKFARE, I DON’T KNOW,
SENATOR MANCHIN, DOESN’T SOUND
LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY AGENDA TO
ME.
>> I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
BILL CLINTON WHEN HE SAID
BASICALLY WELFARE TO WORK.
WHEN I WAS GOVERNOR I DID THE
SAME.
I BASICALLY SAID MIKE LEAVITT,
FRIEND OF MINE, FORMER GOVERNOR
OF UTAH, HEAD OF HHS, MIKE I
NEED A WAIVER.
HE SAID WHAT IS FOR?
HE SAID WHY?
THE WAY THE CODE IS WRITTEN I
HAVE TO BASICALLY SUPPORT A
HEALTHY PERSON WHO HAD A HARD
ECONOMIC TIMES, A HEALTHY POOR
PERSON THE WAY THAT I HAVE A
MORE RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP A
VERY PERSON WHO IS IN NEED, HAS
EITHER PHYSICAL OR MENTAL
INCAPACITIES THAT I NEED TO HELP
THEM.
I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO
EVERYTHING FOR BOTH.
I HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE PRODUCING.
I’VE ALWAYS BEEN YOU HAVE TO
PRODUCE AND GIVE SOMETHING BACK.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE SAID.
IF YOU’RE COMING TO ME WITH
PROGRAMS THAT DOESN’T HAVE A
WORK REQUIREMENT OR IT IS NOT
MEANS TESTED TARGETED TO HELP
MOST IN NEED TRYING TO HELP
THEMSELVES THEN I’M NOT GOING TO
BE INTERESTED.
I AM WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU
ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT HELPS LIFT
PEOPLE UP BUT A HELPING HAND IS
A HELPING HAND.
YOU KNOW.
IT IS NOT BASICALLY A HANDOUT.
THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE IN
WEST VIRGINIA WANT.
PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT.
PEOPLE WANT, WHEN THEY HIT HARD
TIMES THEY NEED A HELPING HAND,
EVERYBODY DOES FROM TIME TO
TIME.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS
THAT DO THAT BUT BASICALLY IF
YOU’RE GIVING A HANDOUT
CONTINUOUSLY IT WILL CONTINUE.
WE STILL HAVE NINE OAR 10
MISDEMEANOR JOBS WE’RE NOT
FILLING IN AMERICA.
THERE IS A LOT OF WORK FOR A LOT
OF PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
THE PAY HAS GONE UP BECAUSE
DEMAND FOR LABOR.
THAT’S GREAT.
LABOR IS ABLE TO GET GOOD PAY.
I’M TICKLED FOR THAT.
WITH THAT WHICH NEED MORE PEOPLE
IN THE WORKFORCE AROUND A GOOD
IMMIGRATION POLICY IN AMERICA.
WE NEED TO SECURE OUR BORDERS.
YOU CAN’T HAVE A IMMIGRATION
POLICY WITHOUT SECURE BORDER,
LARRY.
YOU CAN’T HAVE A WORKFORCE NOT
HERE BASICALLY ENJOY THE FRUITS
OF AMERICA AND ENJOY THE FRUITS
OF THEIR LABOR.
LARRY: AMEN, SENATOR MANCHIN.
WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU, SIR.
>> YOU TOO.
LARRY: THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> LET’S GETTING TO THE SOON,
LARRY.
I ENJOYED TALKING TO YOU.