>> Kennedy: NEWLY RELEASED
DOCUMENTS SHOWING ANDREW MCCABE
APOLOGIZING TO INVESTIGATORS FOR
CHANGING STORIES ABOUT LEAKING
TO THE PRESS.
HE TOLD INVESTIGATORS HE DIDN'T
KNOW HOW INFO ON AN FBI PROBE
INTO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
WOUND UP IN A
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" ARTICLE,
BUT THEN A FEW MONTHS LATER, HE
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE DID
AUTHORIZE THE LEAKING OF THAT
INFORMATION.
REPORTING THAT AN FBI AGENT
ACCOUNT OF McCABE ON THIS
INTERNAL INTERVIEW, SAYING "I
SAID SIR, YOU UNDERSTAND WE HAVE
PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS,
BASED ON WHAT WE TOLD YOU.
""I EVEN SAW LONG NECKS,
WEEKENDS WORKING ON THIS, TRYING
TO FIND OUT WHO AMONGST YOUR
PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT.
HE LOOKED DOWN, KIND OF NODDED,
AND SAID YEAH, I'M SORRY.
HE NOW FACES POSSIBLE CRIMINAL
PROSECUTION.
MELISSA, I WANT TO GO TO YOU
FIRST.
DO YOU BUY THAT?
WAS I LIKE A APOLOGY APOLOGY?
AND APOLOGIZING FOR LYING TO
INVESTIGATORS.
IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANYTHING.
>> Melissa: IT SEEMS TO DEPEND
ON THE DAY AND THE TIME.
YOU SEE VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF
PUNISHMENTS FOR THIS KIND OF
THING, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU
ARE.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME
ABOUT ALL OF THESE STORIES.
LOSING HIS JOB, IS THAT ENOUGH,
FOR WHAT HE DID, AND THEN YOU
LOOK AT HEALTH THE PUNISHMENT
HASN'T BEEN HANDED OUT EVENLY TO
DIFFERENT PEOPLE, RIGHT?
>> Gillian: IT ALSO WAS IN A
POLITICAL FIRING IN THE WAY THAT
IT WAS WITH JAMES COMEY.
THIS WAS KIND OF LIKE A GROUP OF
INVESTIGATORS.
LOOKING INTO WHAT HAPPENED.
SPEAK TO NOT ONLY RECOMMENDED
THAT HE BE REMOVED FROM HIS JOB,
BUT ALSO REFERRED TO A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
IF YOU STILL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING
INVESTIGATION WITH THE U.S.
ATTORNEY THAT HAS SUBPOENA
POWER, AND IT MAY IN FACT BRING
IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SET OF
CHARGES, BASED ON THE
CIRCUMSTANCES.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SEND SOME
PEOPLE TO PRISON, TO FEDERAL
PRISON FOR LYING TO
INVESTIGATORS, THERE HAS TO BE
UNIFORMITY HERE.
AND IT SHOULDN'T BE BASED ON WHO
IS IN POWER, WHO YOU DONATED TO,
WHO YOUR WIFE GOT MONEY FROM.
IT SHOULD BE A STANDARD SET OF
RULES THAT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY,
WHETHER OR NOT OR THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE FBI, OR YOU ARE
WORKING IN THE PRESENCE OF
NATIONAL SECURITY INNER CIRCLE.
>> Gillian: LET'S COMPARE
INCOME TRANSFERS I CAN.
ANDY McCABE AND JAMES COMEY,
INTERESTINGLY, HE KIND OF
APOLOGIZE LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO.
HE ADMITTED THAT HE WAS WRONG
ABOUT THE PFIZER PROCESS.
AND A LOT OF FOLKS THAT I HAVE
SPOKEN TO YOU WHO HAVE BEEN VERY
CRITICAL OF HIM SO THAT THAT
MEANS SOMETHING.
THEY THINK THAT THAT WAS A
SINCERE EFFORT.
>> Melissa: NO, NO.
HE SAID THAT HE RELIED ON
PROCESS THAT WAS NOT ROBUST
ENOUGH.
>> Pete: SO I THINK THE POINT
THAT YOU TWO MADE, WHY IS IT
THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS,
THAT IF YOU WORKED WITH TRUMP,
YOU SUPPORTED HIM, OR YOU ARE
AROUND TEN, THEN THEY ARE GOING
TO THROUGH THE ABSOLUTE BOOK AT
YOU WITH THE WEIGHT OF
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.
CARTER PAGE, PAUL MANAFORT.
IF YOU WORKED WITH HIM, THE
INITIAL CRIME OR SECONDARY
CRIME, WE ARE COMING AFTER YOU.
BUT IF YOU'RE ANDY McCABE OR
JIM COMEY, YOU ARE A SINCERE YOU
APOLOGIZE, THEN WE SHOULD JUST
LOOK THE OTHER WAY IF YOU'RE TO
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
ADMINISTRATION.
>> Gillian: THERE ARE
CONSEQUENCES.
>> Pete: THAT IS BECAUSE TRUMP
HIMSELF STEPPED IN WITH THE CASE
OF JIM COMEY.
ANDY McCABE, IN THAT INSTANCE,
EVEN THEN, IT TOOK A LOT OF
PRESSURE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
WE SEE HIM LYING TO
INVESTIGATORS, WHAT HE IS
ULTIMATELY ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
I THINK OTHER PEOPLE WHO SEE
THAT'S DOUBLE STANDARD.
FOCUS ON THE LEFT WHO ARE
CAREERISTS.
>> Jessica: IT IS A BAD LUCK
TO BE CALLING PAUL MANAFORT A
VICTIM OF ANYTHING.
HE HAS GOTTEN A PRETTY GOOD DEAL
OF THIS.
HE COMMITTED A TON OF CRIMES
THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE WORKING
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN
EXTRAORDINARILY LARGER AMOUNT OF
TIME.
IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME, AS A
DEMOCRAT.
I DID NOT TAKE HIM TO BE ALL
THAT AUTHENTIC.
HE WAS BACKED UP AGAINST THE
WALL.
HE HAD TO SAY SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT THERE IS A LARGE
APPETITE, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR
POLITICAL AFFILIATION.
WHETHER IT IS THAT YOU ARE UPSET
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016
ORDER SINCE THEN.
THAT IS MY FEELING ABOUT
McCABE.
>> Kennedy: WE WILL NOT SEE
THEM ANYMORE.
THE BOOK IS FINALLY --
>> Jessica: NO ONE WOULD ARGUE
THAT HE SHOULD BE GOING TO JAIL.
HE WILL PROBABLY WRITE ANOTHER
BOOK.