richard viguerie is on the line with us the commentator founder the conservative
headquarters author of the new book
takeover conservative HQ dot com is website
many folks have the suggested that mister perry is one of the founders of
the modern day conservative movement I would
I would not disagree with that are I'm guessing he wouldn't
would you sir well I was there at the beginning
and the 200 the concerted move near the bill buckley's a very go waters and
others I was fortunate to be a
a young kid read at a Texas there now
watched a lot over it but I was a very green
and very young back in those days but I just happen to be at the right spot at
the right time
so we just had sheriff mack: on Sheriff Richard Mack he was coming back from the
bunny ranch
no in the last hour and his
assertion was a
I'm a little confused by all this actually um
was that the bundy family should be allowed to continue
to graze their cattle
and sell them for profit in the public market place
on on on our land on taxpayers land
and not pay for it because I love
freedom something it had something to do with freedom in thomas jefferson
and and about not giving up their lands and stop when they became a state
on can you on tango left for me now that that
up and you know there is enough right and wrong on both sides a
come here up we have a situation whereby
up in my opinion the Obama administration has been
ok disobeying the law ignoring the Constitution changes on
Obamacare law was 37 times and
without asking congress hear anything and then why is that is that now it away
so you talk about Obamacare now I'm
you can we can confine our conversation what's going on in whereas I don't know
you can't come because okay
that there is a ruling class that has finally will
caused a lot of americans to wake up infielder just being abused her just
tired out but is not the ruling class sir that you've raised hundreds of
millions of dollars for over the years isn't
you know the party types know that yellow but a multi-billion at the
billionaires who run the Tea Party
handball get off three-decade
bed people are just tired as the ruling class to Harry Reid so the world who
became a multimillionaire
on a politician's salary they just beginning to get tired of these people
were
rigging the rules to advantage themselves and their friends
a Whitney learning now about Rory
a read who has financial interests in property around
the bunny ranch the whole thing stinks to high heaven and there's certainly
enough blame to go around on both sides
but it is you must remember the American people are just tired of all these
government abuses the IRS
the ppl EPA the NSA
and they're just saying hey and mass and okay so forget
if we successfully get rid love the IRS and the EPA
any EPA and at the FDA and the who you know you name it
now what is scarecrow you just got a scarecrow
for get rid of the IRS said that know what I'm saying they should obey the law
and they're not obeying the law the NSA is now being the law the EPA they're
acting like bullets
the coming into this place in the viral you know with police dogs and a Taser
people heavy armor throwing people to the ground people are just tired of the
government
acting is but this family is in defiance have vs two decades have three federal
court orders
they are but do you bring in heavy armor taser people bring in police dogs
through people to the ground just that little table that's
you know a a very respectfully that has happened to
several million americans now in the past you know what
six years as a consequence of crimes committed by Chase
and at a Chase Bank and Jamie diamond and his buddies in
and Wells Fargo in song you're singing my song the Conservatives com
have been battling crony capitalism Wall Street big business
has been in collusion with what washington politician state politicians
for as long as I can remember it well then will you join me in calling for an
and to to these these crony capitalists being able to claim that their
money is the same thing as speech in is protected by the first man in the
constitution that that's different know it is
protected by the First Amendment and I would hot dry how is the money
out the chronic capital is protected by the Constitution
I'm sorry I wasn't how is the money up the quick have the crony capitalists who
want to seize control of our government
and use it to their advantage how is that protected by the constitution where
does the word money appear in the constitution
a you're you're framing it like crony capitalist you know they should they
should have different rights
mean I am as opposed to crony capitalism as any but I think they should have no
right the ship privileges
we mean all rights were I'd heard you say something on the air before I came
on which I thought
you know strongly disagree with higher education should be a right
our founders disagreed our founders Tom said you should have a right to life
Liberty in the pursuit of happiness nothing about writing Thomas Jefferson
started first grade college in America sorry somebody else money
that you're saying somebody else has to pay for your right you don't have a
right to anything that cost somebody else money
that somebody else's money how do you have the right to take their money
thought you know we can do better if we can debate
education whether it's in the common good thomas jefferson thought it was is
why he started the University Virginia was more important to him than being
president it's on his tombstone to being president wasn't here was the first
three college
in the in the United States it right and it didn't say it was a right
and well okay I'll give you that I but day I can I stand by my
my belief that it should be right but that but thats
not apropos what's going on in Nevada how is it the right
above a family that owns you know a million dollar ranch
and has made a lot of money over the years grazing cattle on federal land and
not pay an
us for their use about land and their destruction about land
how is it there right to continue doing that
and and and it isn'ta medicine but it's also
the people are looking around and seeing Harry Reid financially benefiting from
all this in a Spanish Harry Reid's got nothing to do with this he has no power
in this situation he is that picture
Tom he's not the governor of Nevada Tom
don't forget now the reason that the main reason we supposed to be talking
here
is take over this wonderful book that I wrote okay I think
here here here your your new book is called take over what is the ticket what
is the takeover richard viguerie
Tom if I make the point in the book that
the conservatives a for least a 50 years I've been involved the national level
head up political guns pointed at the wrong target
we've been pointing at political guns Harry Reid
Nancy Pelosi Barack Obama but their number one problem for conservatism
thing is keeping us from governing America in my opinion
is the big government Republicans and that's our number one opponent
is a john bainer Mitch McConnell
Eric Cantor call rolf rights previous at the Republican National Committee
and that said the deported battle is going on in america right so what's your
solution for that marcia our solution
is I'll paraphrase james carville who you remember 1992 said
it's the economy stupid this economy stupid said it over and over to
drive that point home to democrats I say to conservative
is to primary stupidest the primers because
this wave is gonna come in I'm afraid it could be a tsunami proportions for
people like yourself calm
and sweet that a lot of democrats and if all it does is sleep in
more john bainer Mitch McConnell Eric Cantor types we will have wasted the
opportunity of a lifetime so
emerging concert is to be very focused on the
primaries a 102 year or by the way she goes all the way back to 1912 with teddy
roosevelt left the Republican Party
started boomers party which led directly to the election at Woodrow Wilson
with less than 42 percent its ok to the split republicans over
and we've been battling that wing at the party ever set those are you gonna go
back to the Civil War I mean our
are you calling for to a rip going back to pre-civil war times we had strong
states and weak federal government
know we were caught with calling for a rule of law
wanna go back where the people are in in control and we don't have this monstrous
big-government
that leads to things like we just talk been talking about here in in Nevada
and you know we have we don't have I found ur set up a government
a that was going to be a minimum government they didn't want all the
French government get along and work together they put him in conflict with
each other
so that we wouldn't have up it big central government
and what we want to do is get back to who we have government waste responsibly
responsive to the people right now the people of control their governor project
richard viguerie his new book is called takeover and a conservative HQ dot com
is the website
image sensor on this is the Thom Hartmann's are avail he steps on me
and mister bigger thank you so much for drop by it out always a pleasure but
thank you