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Spoiler-man and this video we're breaking down lots of major Spider-man News.
Not only do we have major announcements on casting news but I also have some stuff I've
heard to tell you about how Andrew and Tobey are returning.
In this video we're gonna be breaking all down but don't be a spider-menace, make sure
you hit that thumbs up button like you're Gwen Stacy and it's a concrete floor.
Also subs f**king hell I'm sorry guys anyway we'll move on quickly and get right into it.
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Now Spider-man No Way Home ended with Tobey and Andrew returning to their respective universes
and though that was apparently the last of them I've heard from my sources that they've
been in talks with Sony to return.
Andrew probably gonna deny it until the day he dies but they are apparently planning on
having him and Tobey come back in smaller roles now that the multiverse is open.
This will include voice appearances in Across The Spider-verse.
This isn't my scoop and huge shoutouts to Ember On Main for posting that Andrew and
Tobey will be appearing in the movie as their own Spider-men.
That film is set to follow Miles as he travels across the Spider-verse and it'll include
several different versions of the character popping up.
Daniel Kaluuya has also been announced as voicing Spider-punk in the film and there
are also rumours that Tom Holland will be appearing too.
No idea which version of Spider-man he's playing cos...we never found out who was beneath that
mask in the MCU.
Now this is alongside Hailee Steinfeld, Oscar Isaac and also Issa Rae as Spider-woman.
There's also apparently gonna be appearances from the animated series Spider-man from the
90s and Spider-man from the PS4 game.
Sony obviously saw how big that No Way Home was and realising that they have a tonne of
Spider-men to pull from they're apparently gonna be filling the film with every mainstream
version they've ever had.
The formula for comic book movies at the moment seems to be get em all together and Sony are
doing this with their Spider-verse.
I have heard that pretty much every upcoming Spiderverse film released by Sony will tie
into the other films so they become must see.
The deal that they brokered with Marvel Studios allowed for Venom to stop by the MCU and we
of course also had Vulture in the best post credits scene of all time.
They are gonna be the main cast with Andrew, Tobey
and Tom being more used as cool cameos.
However the pair appearing here will very much set the ground work for things going
forward with them and they will be dropping in in Secret Wars too.
From what I've been told Kevin Feige wants to have this as the biggest movie of all time
in which almost every big character from across every Marvel film returns in some capacity.
From what I've been told they want a scene similar to the portals one at the end of Avengers
Endgame.
However instead of just being restricted to the MCU we'll have multiple Marvel franchises
converging at this point.
This will include Tobey and Andrew, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, several X-men cast members,
Fantastic Four ones and so on and so forth.
Kang will have raveaged multiple dimensions at this point and it'll be a final stand against
him across the entire multiverse.
Whether this happens or not remains to be seen and if they manage to bring back Wesley
Snipes as Blade then I'll go mental in the theatre.
It's kinda obvious that that's the type of thing they'd be planning for a big multiversal
movie but my source who told me has gotten a number of things right in the past.
Whether it's them making an educated guess or whatever remains to be seen but this is
apparently the quote unquote endgame of Kevin Feiges plans.
I think it would be amazing if they pull this off....for like 3 weeks and then everyone
can go back to complaining about Marvel.
Now incase you don't know, the ending of Secret Wars in the comics caused several of the timelines
to merge into the main one.
Characters like Miles Morales had previously been a part from the universe but he was brought
in along with others that Marvel wanted in the 616.
From what I've heard this will be similar to what Marvel want to do as well with them
being able to pick and choose X-men characters.
Patrick Stewart and Ian Mckellan are probably getting to the point where Marvel don't want
to base an entire franchise off the back of them so in instances like this I can see them
going more towards the First Class crew.
Now in order for all this to happen Spider-man 4 needs to come first.
According to Cosmic Circus there's discussions going on at the moment over when it will be
released with the aim being that it's a 2024 movie.
This would put it at the end of Phase 5 and there were rumours that it would release July
12th.
This would mean that it's releasing two weeks before Thunderbolts which I personally can't
see happening.
I think it's too close and that one of the studios would have to budge to give the other
room to breathe.
Now as for plot details from all the rumours going around this won't actually build off
the tease at the end of No Way Home.
That had Eddie Brock in the MCU and he left behind a piece of the venom symbiote.
Obviously setting up the black suit coming to the MCU which will then lead into Venom
actually being in the main universe instead of the embarassing cousin Sony one.
I'm just playing, I actually like Let There Be Carnage.
In a sadistc way.
Anyway Marvel originally had this big plan for how they wanted to bring Tom Holland in
as Spider-man and then slowly build up to this black suit.
However Sony started off their Venom franchise which was disconnected from the MCU and this
caused a lot of trouble behind the scenes.
From what I've been told Tom Holland was actually meant to feature in it with a brief cameo
but Marvel Studios pulled the plug on it and said no way...homes.
They then did the new deal with Sony and one of the stipulations was that their franchises
connect to the MCU which we saw play out.
So now Feige has basically yoinked the Venom symbiote and put it in the MCU.
Tom Hardy may be brought across at the end of secret wars and I'd love to see the converging
of the timelines combine him in with the MCU.
However it's said that the next Spider-man movie won't actually focus on the black suit
plotline and that they're saving it for further down the line.
In the comics Spider-man got his black suit in the original Secret Wars storyline.
This is disconnected from the big multiverse one that brings all the timelines together
but potentially they could just combine them.
That's purely speculation but the focus for Spider-man 4 is meant to be a more ground
level one similar to Homecoming.
This Homecoming of age story allowed us to see basically a week in the life of your friendly
neighbourhood spider-man and it was more about Peter navigating high school than taking on
world ending threats.
I really hope that this means we get pay off on that post credits scene featuring Scorpion
cos my man mando been waiting in the wings for far too long.
We could also use this to introduce Black Cat, a Gwen Stacy in the MCU and really the
possibilities are endless.
Now you might have read tweets a couple weeks back from Jacob Batalan that were taken out
of context to make it look like he didn't want a pay day.
Basically it led with him saying that he was open to it but not hoping for it.
Lots of people didn't read the full interview and kinda flipped out over this being like
'why do you not wanna give us more Spider-men movies Jacob.'
However the full qyote reveals what's going on with it.
He said:
"I feel like actors are the last people to know.
I think that people assume that actors are always hiding secrets.
I promise you, we don't know anything.
But again, if it's the right place, at the right time, with the right group of people
that we've been with, I would say, why not?
But other than that, whatever happens, happens.
Really, those decisions are up to the big bosses, the people who sign the checks.
We're open to the idea, but we're not hoping for it."
So yeah mate no need to lose your s**t man, calm down it's just twitter, pay your $8 so
your tweets don't get buried and shut the f**k up.
Anyway Sony have a lot on their hands at the moment and expect to see all their movie and
characters connecting with each other across a number of mediums.
We have Kraven The Hunter now entering post production, we are in the final weeks of filming
on Madame Web and there's of course El Muerto, the most hyped movie of all time in development.
The one I'm looking forward to the most right now is Across The Spider-verse and I think
it's gonna be a massive celebration of the character in more ways than the first one
was.
They are really aiming to have every single recognisable Spider-man feature in it and
this will then thread the seeds for the rest of the multiverse movies that are coming from
the Marvel staple.
Secret Wars is gonna be something special too with there being alot of major characters
appearing in it, I dunno how they're gonna actually keep it a secret but yeah lots of
things to look forward to.
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