- How much exactly have you made over the last four weeks?
- 34,000 euros.
I have almost no following on social media.
I studied in university as a theoretical physicist.
After that, I kind of wanted to do something
that is more social and that helps people.
- All right, welcome back, Max Tornow here,
we're sitting here with our client David
who has cracked quite a lot of money
in the last four months.
We're gonna talk about how much exactly.
And we wanna talk a little bit about his story,
about what exactly he does and how he's helping his clients
and how we've helped him get his business up
for a very great start.
And yeah, David, thanks a lot for tuning in,
really appreciate that.
How much exactly have you made over the last four weeks?
- Over the last four weeks?
So in January, I made 34,000 euros total, in sales,
half of it is already collected.
And February started pretty well as well,
made over 10,000 already
- Nice, and it's the 8th of February,
so that's over a K a day. (laughs)
Congrats for that, you know,
obviously these are great beginner results,
it's good for a start,
this is before scaling.
This is before we've done anything with your social media
and so on and so forth.
And, what exactly are coaching?
- So I help men in they're a dating and relationship life.
So I help men that are mostly Cara ambitious,
guys that have been through university, doctors, lawyers
people that kind of have already some level of achievement
or confidence,
mostly those that want to have optimize
and maximize their fulfillment
in their relationships and daily life.
So talking to women, talking to other people as well
but mostly that dating aspect.
- Nice, nice.
And, I love that.
I love that.
I love seeing that as an ex dating coach myself,
I love seeing that guys like you are keep crushing it
and that you guys are really doing something really good
because, especially nowadays guys getting shyer and shyer
and they have more troubles just expressing themselves
and actually being more confident.
So, I love the fact that you are still crushing it with that
and that you're doing it in a proper way,
in a nice way, in an actual value giving way.
And this is also little important value nugget
for positioning,
you've positioned yourself in a way you're actually
helping guys that are busy with their careers,
they don't wanna spend days of their weeks
just being outside, talking to a lot of people outside
or something like that,
you basically said, look, you're career focused,
you don't have a lot of time
and you wanna make the best out of it.
Tell us a little bit more about how exactly
you're helping your clients.
- Yeah, so I'm pretty much work on three levels.
I think in every relationship,
there's basically three components,
there is you, there is the partner
or partners that you have,
and then there is the relationship
or the relationships.
So I structured it in a way that it's logical,
people nowadays they don't really wanna waste time
with learning strategies, techniques, or everything,
they want to have something long-term
that brings them fulfillment and results long-term
and brings them passion and meaning in their life,
and also something that aligns them
with their professional life and their career,
especially when you're ambitious, right?
Sometimes you have these blockages or those limiting beliefs
around your partners or your friends being a drag
in your life and not being really something
that pushes you forward.
So I help my clients to first start with themselves,
with help to deal with their emotions, their own self-talk,
really have a clear vision on what they want,
then learn how to communicate that in the proper way,
something that truly sparks attraction
and also something that takes their relationship
where they want and then help to deal
with those relationships in a way that on the long run
can be fulfilling, how to set the proper boundaries
so that they can still make their own personal growth
on the side, not necessarily be stuck in their relationship
and yeah, be pulled down, right?
- Yeah.
- That's something that resonates with you.
And yeah, and later on just designed their delight
they want from that.
- Well, sounds absolutely fantastic.
And you know we always say like money follows value,
so if you're focused on actually giving as much value
as you can out to your clients,
you get rewarded and you did.
And that's fantastic for beginner level.
Now, you've ever since gotten into our advanced program,
we have our first advanced call later on
and now we're gonna help you with the social media
side of things,
and then later on also with paid advertising.
How have you gotten your clients so far
before social media?
- Yeah, so I really resonated with what you said,
when there is value, there is money.
Actually, most of the clients that I got
were either through my network or the network of my network
and then the referrals.
So every single client that is happy
has the potential to bring another client,
I really heavily rely on that,
and actually have almost no following,
actually started LinkedIn three weeks ago,
I have almost no following on any other social media
that I have.
I didn't really do any proper lead generation on that,
I got couple of clients from there,
but most of it is just networking and referrals I think.
Everybody has a potential of 10 to $50,000 in their network,
but most of them are just not,
they don't wanna allow them to have that money coming
from their network.
- Yeah.
- So I started from there and I think it's also,
so for me it was very important to have that confidence
that I can have a business that can run
without anything I would be dependent on,
and social media is one of those things.
So it's really nice to have it as an amplifier.
But I think businesses healthy only when you shut down
all the, like the means, the streams to make the money
and you can still create value,
generate clients and keep the business running.
- And that's exactly, that's so beautiful.
So you literally, you're sitting here,
you made 34,000 euros last month
without social media, without paid advertising.
I mean your channel, I checked out your YouTube channel,
you have like eight subscribers.
- I had no idea you found it. (laughs)
- We can link it here if someone's interested,
maybe you get some more subscribers.
Same goes for Instagram,
if we may show you Instagram, can we?
I can show it right now - Obviously you can.
Actually started that YouTube channel
just for myself to get some, just some training.
- Some practicing?
- Yeah, exactly,
it's not even a thing yet.
- You 322 followers right now on Instagram.
Gigi on that.
And by the way, that was also why we did so extremely well
in 2020, when so many of our competitors,
they just stopped selling.
They literally just went bankrupt,
they had to stop doing business.
We were doing extremely well
because yes, maybe people from the outside
were less interested in building their own business.
But, our current clients kept buying from us
because they got great results
and they wanted to be up-sold to more advanced programs.
Our current clients referred us to their friends.
We had such a strong structure
independently of the advertising we run,
independently of the social media we've done.
So just like you said, these things are nice to amplify
but the base levelers give a ton of value
and have good structure and be able to network with people
that are already your clients and be referred from them.
- Yeah, and so your program has taught me is that
it's like the most important is to understand your clients.
When that is there, you know like most of the clients
that I have actually don't even count on social media
so much, because I found that most of the guys that I help,
they are not so much on social media.
So, I have no choice than having something around that.
- Love it, yeah.
So where were you before, before you came into FBM?
Did you already kind of know what you wanted to be teaching
or give us a little bit of an overview,
where you were before you joined our program?
- Yeah.
So, I come from a scientific background,
I studied in university as a theoretical physicist.
And after that, I kind of wanted to do something
that is more social and that helps people.
So I started to work as a coach
within other dating company,
that's something that came, I was asked to do it
just because I was good at helping
and I got good results there.
And naturally, I started to transition
into the idea of having something on my own
and having my own values,
clear path that I want to help with.
And yeah, then it just hit me that I wanted to start
out on my own.
But I didn't really know exactly what,
actually had kind of a crisis in the dating coaching
where I didn't really know
if that was really fulfilling for me.
I didn't truly know if I was good enough to do this,
if I would be one of the top people doing that,
or even if it's just something that I'm really the best
at giving,
is something else that I can provide more value with?
And, that's something that I realized
as long as I started this program back in August, 2020,
I kind of had this passion that came back
as I was starting to have more hand
like be more hands-on and be more in contact
with the clients and find the clients
that I really wanted to help,
like those that truly, you can create a connection with.
And so, I remember having been on several calls with you,
that was very, very good,
where I remember you called me out several times
on some little wackiness that I was putting out there.
I had some ideas, I wanted to shake things up
and took me a while to really get clear on what I wanted.
But then obviously helping men in their relationships,
I think that I could potentially expand this
to women as well later on
because my approach is very psychology-based.
But like helping in those areas, the relationships,
especially like you said nowadays with social media,
there is less and less contact, real contact.
Conversations are more surface level,
people are searching for that connection
for something deep, more passion, more adventure,
something that really sparks them right.
And yeah, that's just how I knew that this was something
that I wanted to pursue.
If this will change in 10 years like you,
I have no idea, maybe.
That's a good start.
- Nice!
I love it.
And I do remember the calling out parts,
is always my favorite parts, to be honest. (laughs)
So what do you think,
so you've mentioned a little bit
that big lesson for you was to learn from your audience.
If you would look at the past couple of weeks
in our program,
what was the biggest lesson that you've got from that?
- The biggest lesson from the program.
So I think I understood pretty well what everybody says,
which is, you know, you have to know your client better
than they know themselves.
But what really made the difference is,
so just to back it up,
between September and October, I made 11,000 euros,
and it worked pretty well and I was pretty happy,
I thought it was a good start.
And then in December I made nothing.
I was kind of on a, I had a dry spell.
And, I joined your lead generation bootcamp,
which really kicked me in the butt for one simple thing.
I remember one sentence,
I don't know if it was you or Dario who said it,
but, that's really turned my head around.
It was something like, you know,
you don't just have to know your clients,
you also need to become the ideal coach
your clients would like to see, right?
And that really hit me.
That's when I started to work harder,
to present myself better, to not just pretend
like I know my audience and that's what counts,
but also how to actually do the work
in the way that they would like me to do it.
So, yeah, that was really the big shift.
And that changed from zero to 30,000
just in the mentality.
So that's really the big takeaway
that I have from the program, yeah.
Love it.
That's super fantastic.
I mean, yeah.
Dario Gabriella our lead gen expert and I,
we really, really pour everything
into these lead gen modules
and the lead gen bootcamp in your case as well
to really make sure, like if you're a beginner client,
you know what you're get into.
And, you've mentioned something interesting,
this is something we see a lot with people
who make their first money
especially when they crack the first 10K,
oftentimes they're like, okay now I'm good,
and then to become arrogant or almost even complacent
with what they're doing
and they stop implementing the correct things.
And we always say that like,
this program is not a magic pill, nothing is a magic pill.
You have to keep listening to us,
you have to keep listening to the proper path
and you still have to be on that.
Because otherwise, you fall from grace, right?
And then you're gonna have a much worse of a time.
And you know, you got your stuff together
and cracked a 30K right afterwards.
So, pretty solid.
What does your day-to-day life look like now?
You're in Prague right now or where exactly?
- No, I'm in Geneva, Switzerland.
- Oh, that's right.
You said you are originally from Czech Republic.
- Yeah, right.
Making your business work in Switzerland
is a guarantee that it has value. (laughs)
- A hundred percent.
Geneva, so beautiful.
Hey, I've only been to Zurich every time,
I never make it down to Geneva
but obviously once the travel restrictions are little,
exactly, I'll let you know.
You are obviously also very well invited to hang out with us
in Kiev once traveling is made easier.
But anyways, what do you do exactly on a daily day?
What does your day look like?
- I mean, that's the beauty about this thing
is that it's always different, right?
But, I keep my routine solid.
So in the morning, I work out pretty much every day,
it's a lot of sports.
So, every day, is that something that I take for myself.
And then usually I go to work,
It's really mostly about connecting with people,
potential prospects, doing some lead generation.
And right now, since I start to have too many clients,
obviously I have to take care of them.
So I reply to them and also start to plan on slowly
automating the program,
maybe transitioning to something more scalable,
recording some stuff,
doing some strategy on the social media.
Obviously watching the new advanced program,
it will be part of my day to day life from now on.
And later in the afternoon, I usually have all my calls.
So, usually I dedicate Thursdays and Wednesdays
for my calls.
So, it's pretty much,
last Thursday, I had calls from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
non-stop,
and then I jump on one of the live calls with you guys.
So, it was pretty much calls all day long.
But I have two to three calls a day right now.
And yeah, just following my clients,
trying to provide them the most value possible.
And in the evening, either I learn myself,
whether it's through this or something else,
or I just chill, I hang out with my girlfriend,
I message people here and there.
And yeah, just taking it slow
and trying to keep the balance there.
I know it's easy to burn, scorch on that.
- Exactly, like it's all about the balance,
knowing when you wanna hustle hard,
knowing when you wanna chill.
And this is something to wrap things up slowly,
something that I always loved about having
a freedom business, I love working hard,
it's very fulfilling for me.
This is not for somebody that is lazy
and just wants to make a quick buck,
this is for somebody who actually wants to build something
legit.
And I love working.
And I love the fact that I can work extremely hard
and long if I want to.
But at the same time, if I wanna take a day off,
whether that's Monday or Tuesday or Sunday,
I could just do that.
And that's what I love about it.
And it's kind of cool that you mentioned the same.
But-- - Yeah, you got me on that,
that's my weakness as well. (laughs)
Yeah, it happens from time to time,
you need to, like especially as a coach
in something more emotional, right?
Probably happens to you when you're doing the dating thing.
If you stack up 10 calls in a day,
at the end sometimes, you just wanna go away,
you don't wanna see anybody, you wants to recharge
or do something cool.
So the next day, it's good to have a break,
obviously. - Exactly.
- One thing you cannot do in a regular job.
- And the next steps for us,
for you is now also to just make it more scalable, right?
That means you can work more on your business
and not in your business,
you can remove yourself from that equation.
And we always put it this way,
making your first 10K or in your case, 30K a month,
that's the hard part,
like you've done the hardest part.
Now, it's literally just about being smart,
setting up systems properly.
And, we have been smart for you already,
so all you gotta do is you gotta just implement the things
that we're going to tell you
and you can scale your business up and easy peasy.
David, is there anything else you wanna mention
before we wrap things up?
- No, I think the school, just a great program,
something to get into.
- Cool!
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really appreciate that.
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