Hi
I'm Pedro from Coffee Parts
and today we're looking at these
two machines,
Rocket R Cinquantotto
and the Victoria Arduino Prima One
Design philosophy
Now, both these machines come from
manufacturers that are really focused on design.
With Rocket,
their whole philosophy is about
beautiful, timeless pieces.
So they don't actually
like having a lot of digital displays
they have worked with it and hidden digital displays
like the Kroner hidden into the front panel here.
But mostly they want to keep
all the controls hidden
in the case of this controller here
it's removable.
And once you removed it,
you are a very traditional manual machine
with the Victoria Arduino,
they've looked at design
from the intricacies of it.
The little dials around here,
all the finish like this machine up
up close in real life really is finished.
Once again,
they're not really covered in digital displays.
You've got the display on the group head,
which works as showing your programing model
and also your shot timer.
But really they've kept all their controls
to the app you get with this machine.
So they jump on your phone and you can control every bit of
that machine through the app.
So they're really looked at design.
Little things like the feet
of the machine in real life.
They really are both very well
finished and manufactured machines.
Where they start differing
is two main things
how the machine is controlled.
So with the Rocket using the control line
and the Victoria Arduino using the app
and the group head
with the Victoria Arduino are using the neo technology
to have a saturated and heats insulate at the head.
You've also got a little bit of control where they're built
in the purge automatically.
So you can have that group
when you remove that portafilter to purge and there's a delay.
So you can set the delay, for example, at one second
with a two second purge.
And by controlling that, you're not putting in too much water
or too little once again to conserve water and energy
as a really cool, unique feature
of the Victoria Arduino. on the Rocket
The Rocket going for more traditional approach which is E61 group head
600ml boiler
PID controlled
which you've got the control here very accurate temperature
they've built the offset into the PID.
So temperature you see here is
the temperature coming out the head
and a more traditional approach
and obviously non saturated group head.
So they do differ a little bit
and in this respect
the Victoria Arduino it does have a little bit more control
and a bit more also from the environmental perspective
where you're only heating up the water that you need at that moment
in saying that these are two different
price points machines.
So there's a bit of a gap in the price
and depending which market you're in,
that gap might vary.
But in Australia we're looking roughly at a $5,000 machine
versus a $7,000 machine.
So you are looking at
two slightly different machines.
When it comes to steam,
They're actually quite similar, yet
the Rocket does have a bigger boiler
at a 1.8 later boiler
versus a 1.5 from the Prima.
Now both of them are
PID controlled and in the Rocket's case you can control your steam
pressure just here on the controller
and in the Prima you do it through the app.
That steam
is different in the way it's delivered.
Both machines are running cool touch wands
in the case of the Rocket,
you've got a traditional commercial steam valve running it.
a turn knob when on the Prima's case
they run the fly by wire system,
which you can just press
and either purge or hold down.
So a little bit more convenient
to use the Prima steam, but both very dry
and very equivalent in terms of the steam performance.
When it comes to water reservoirs,
there is a big difference.
The Rocket's running it two and a half liter water reservoir
while the Prima is running a 1.2.
The reason there is a difference of thought process
behind it is that both
these machines can be either run
via the tank or plumbed in.
And at this price point, the assumption a lot of people
will be plumbing in these machines.
So they've almost put
in water tank here
to be able to run the machine
out of the box, plug it in water and run it.
But they believe that most of the customers
will be plumbing it in.
Rocket has gone going for a fifty fifty approach
where they thought half will
plumb it in half won't.
And they've made it quite easy.
Now when it comes to the hot water
Victoria Arduino
have done it differently.
If once again run it fly by wire.
So basically solenoid operated, but the've bled in
cold water allowing you two different water temperatures.
So just say really hot water to warm up your cup
if you cups not hot enough before use it and you can pour it out
and hot water
that's a bit cool at the right temperature to run your long black.
So in that case,
it is a lot more flexible in
you can choose as to water temperatures
and you can just run a fly by wire.
With a Rocket
it's a more traditional approach.
We've got the commercial hot water tap and it's picking up
on the bottom of the boiler, which is effectively the steam boiler.
With the feet on these machines.
It's only miner but one nice thing about the Prima
is the feet are adjustable.
So if your benchtop wasn't
perfectly level, you can adjust
the machine to basically bring it out
so your coffee does pour completely evenly.
It is a nice thing.
The Rocket are solid feet.
Another little difference is on the Rocket.
When the machine's on, you've got the green line here.
I know it's only minor
and almost irrelevant, but it is nice
visually to see you've got your machine on
when with the Prima, everything's muted.
It's just a design piece.
There's no distractions,
but sometimes you can't really work out if you have it on or off
without looking at things like the gauge.
When it comes to gauges,
the Rocket does have the traditional twin gauges,
so one for the group head
and one for your steam.
When the Prima only has a steam gauge.
But that's not here. nore there
just different things.
Personally, I do like seeing the gauges.
Kind of reminds me of an old vintage car
and when it comes to drip trays.
But these ties are removable
and have the ability to be plumbed in
with the Rocket's one
it's actually quite neat
in when you pull it out,
it's got magnets when it comes back in and this clips in
neatly.
Victoria Arduino
does do something similar.
Where, once it's in, it's locked in really well.
One difference being when you do
take him out to clean the Rocket,
one does sit by itself on a counter
when the Victoria Arduino doesn't see it as well.
The last big difference is, as mentioned earlier,
the way the machines are controlled,
the Rocket doesn't have wi fi connection,
so it doesn't have an app where the Victoria Arduino does.
So effectively on the Victoria Arduino
everything is controlled via the app.
And that's anything from your brew temperature,
your volumetric brew head
to how much water is coming through, whether purchase or not,
and how long it purges your hot water tap,
what the temperature is your steam
like everything is controlled
via the app and your scheduling.
We can turn it on and off up
to three times a day
per day all week with the Rocket
is controlled through the controller here, which is removable.
We can simply pull it out and unplug it.
And in that controller once again
you control your brew temperature
and your steam temperature.
You also control whether or not you have your steam boiler on.
So you could run this as a black
only machine.
That option
is not available yet on the Prima
and you can schedule
the machines up to two times a day so you can turn on the morning
and at lunch, for example,
to run two different schedules per day every day.
Looking at holistically,
both machines are heavy in the design focus
poly two of the machines in the industry
that are more focused
not only build quality and design.
The Rocket has gone for the timeless
kind of feel minimal displays
and really solid machine
when the Victoria Arduino
is gone for those beautiful design elements
almost like they've looked at a Swiss watch.
But in saying that the different approaches
the Rocket is a no fuss,
solid, beautiful design.
Victoria Arduino is really a machine that you can control
all these little features obviously
small pressure profiling machine if you wanted that you're
looking at the Rocket R91
or a decent machine
but it is a beautiful machine that allows
you just enough control to play
and not too much that doesn't overwhelm you.
Hope you've enjoyed this video
about the Rocket and the Victoria Arduino
Now, we have done in-depth reviews
of both of these machines independently.
And you can click up here for either one of these videos,
have a deep dove.
My question to you is,
do you own one of these two machines?
Are you looking at one of them
or do you have any question on them?
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