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Kids in Satsang with Mooji
'How Can You Identify Your True Self?' (with subtitles) 17-02-2019
[Questioner] When you find your true Self,
how can you identify it?
[Mooji] When you discover your true Self,
all the doubts that you would have had before you recognised yourself,
those doubts begin to fall away.
Whatever confusion was in your mind, it begins to fall away
and you naturally feel more fresh, happy and peaceful.
And in this way you know that you received some blessing.
So you become naturally and spontaneously convinced.
You don't have to make an effort to believe,
because you feel, when you awaken to the Truth,
the false things are not there anymore, they fall away.
And when they fall away, you are again in your natural place.
You are naturally happy.
When you are naturally happy, you have no doubt!
[Q.] So ...
Do all your doubts fall away on their own?
[Mooji] Yes, they fall.
[Mooji] Sometimes some doubts might still be there.
[Mooji] But now ... The doubts try to hold on to similar things,
[M.] to hold on to their ground.
[Mooji] But when you wake up, all of them begin to fall away.
[Mooji] They all begin to fall away, because actually they are not real.
But they are strong when you think that
you are just your mind and your habits.
Then they can work, they can fight with you.
But when you realise, 'I am not these things',
then they have nothing to attack; so they can't live.
They can only live while you keep believing that
you are the person that they can attack.
But you recognise, 'They are not real!'
And if they are not real, you don't have to fight them.
They fall away by themselves.
It is like, if somebody was telling you a lie
and you were believing it for a while,
[M.] then you begin to doubt what they are telling you,
[M.] because they are telling other people the same thing.
[M.] Then one day you discover, 'It is not true'.
[M.] When you discover that it's not true,
[M.] if they come to talk to you again, you say,
[M.] 'No, thank you, I don't need to talk'.
[M.] It is just something simple like that.
[M.] It is proven to you that it's not true.
[M.] When something is not true,
[M.] then you won't be confused about it, you'll say, 'No, it's OK'.
[M.] You are only confused because you half believe it,
[M.] or maybe you really believe it,
then you see that it causes trouble for you.
Then you start to doubt that this person is really a friend,
or if this voice is really true.
But one time you really prove it,
it is really happening, you see, 'Aah, it is a lie!'
On the day you see it is a lie, then all doubts go.
And I sometimes give another example.
If you imagine that five people are living in one house
and they all are friends; they get along very well.
But then another person comes to join the house.
Then six people are in the house, and they come and go.
But after one month, things start to go missing;
somebody's umbrella and somebody's purse go missing.
Then everybody starts to think, 'Who is doing this?'
They start to think, 'Maybe when we invite people to the house,
somebody from outside does it'.
They are confused and they start to be suspicious of each other,
'I wonder if it is them?'
Then they are confused. So they put a secret camera up.
And they keep looking at the result.
Then one day they see someone go into the kitchen
and then they see, 'This is the person!' You catch him.
Once you catch this person,
then you don't have any doubt about the other people,
because you caught the one. It is the same way.
Some things in our mind, we are not sure about.
We believe them, but they cause trouble.
You start to think, 'I don't know if this is true'.
Like somebody tells you, 'You should do this thing'.
You do it and get into trouble. And then you keep getting into trouble.
If you're smart you think, 'Next time they tell me to do something,
I won't accept it so fully, I will watch'.
Maybe one day you see, 'It's not true what they are speaking'.
When you see that it's not true, then everything falls away.
It cannot stay with you. It is just like that.
[Q.] I have experienced that once when I was in Chandigarh.
One of my friends ... We used to cycle.
So then one day ...
There was a park nearby
and there was a lock on it.
But some people climb on it and they get over.
People locked it, because the grass was growing there.
One day my friend said to me, 'Let's go and play in the park'.
I said, 'No, there is a lock'. But he said, 'Nothing happens'.
Then I went in, and some aunties,
they started telling us off; they started getting mad at us.
That happened two or three times
and after that, he still asked me two or three times again,
but then I said, 'No, no, no'. I doubted him then.
[Mooji] Just like this. Everybody has this common sense.
[Mooji] We call it common sense. Some people call it wisdom.
You have to sometimes
experience something that you doubt, you are not sure.
If you believe everything, sometimes you get into trouble very quickly.
Sometimes you have to doubt a little bit,
but you can start to doubt too much.
Some people doubt everything, and then their life seems to stop ...
But there is a place for doubt. Sometimes you stop for a moment
and you reflect on it, 'You know, I think I won't do this'.
So this is exercising your power to discern,
to recognise what is good for you and what is not good for you.
[Q.] That is where our good habits start.
[Mooji] Yes. Yes. They grow.
[Q.] There is one more thing.
You were saying that the mind is fake.
[Mooji] Not always, because, in a way, everything is mind.
What I mean when I say, The mind is fake,
is that the mind is especially fake around your identity.
You need your mind to do maths ...
It is true enough, good enough, useful enough.
You need your mind to look at something, to compare. This is fine.
But when it comes to personal identity ...
Because you are not the personal identity,
and yet, somehow, all of us believe that we are only a person.
If we keep believing that, then our life becomes quite complex,
because the person is sometimes a bit insecure, always judging people,
wanting things and becoming attached to things.
It's not really our true life. It's not really our best life.
So, at some point, we start to doubt it,
'Is this really what my life is about?'
I spoke to a lady a few days ago, and she said,
'I have everything. I have a good job, enough money,
I have a nice house overlooking the Ganges.
Everything is fine. But is that what life is about?'
She said, 'I am tired. I don't want this. Is this all?'
We sat down a little bit and we had a talk,
just like we are having a talk today.
And she came out of it at the end of the conversation.
Actually, we recorded it, so maybe I will show you.
And she went from a place where she felt,
'I don't have any purpose in my life ...
It's not enough for me to have money.
It's not enough for me to have a nice place.
All these things are OK, I'm happy for them,
but it's not enough for me, I need to find something.'
So I saw that she needed to find her self, actually,
because everything else will only be for a time.
Because she came like that and we talked,
she actually used the examples I gave
and came straight to understand, 'Ah!'
Just like I spoke with your father, she came to a place of emptiness inside.
And she said, 'Wow! I am just so happy! I am just so content!'
I was even trying to push her a little bit, What about this?
She was just very, very good.
And we see that just in a short time,
from someone having such a crazy state,
'What will I do with my life, please help me, I'm always depressed',
to, 'Ping!' ... She was saying, 'Thank you. I am so happy!'
I said, Are you sure this happiness isn't going to go away, maybe tomorrow?
She said, 'No, it can't go away tomorrow,
because it's not something I am believing in; it is something I see'.
That is the big difference. It is not,
'I like what I am feeling today. I want to feel like this.'
No, not like that. She saw something from the real place in herself
and she realised, 'It cannot go away!
It is not just a mood. It is not just a feeling.
It is not an idea. It is just true!'
[M.] And when that comes, then I trust it and say, Yes.
[M.] Even though your mind will still come and try to play tricks,
[M.] you can catch him more easily now.
[Q.] So, you said that it is only like,
you find your true Self in that kind of state, right?
So, how does it make thoughts in that state?
[Mooji] If we believe the wrong thing about ourselves,
then the kind of thoughts that come
are the thoughts that come from this wrong place.
And you kind of believe them, but they don't make you happy.
Sometimes they make you very suspicious of other people,
make you very ...
[Q.] Aggressive?
[M.] It can be very aggressive, actually,
because sometimes you don't like people, you feel threatened by them,
which is not true of your true state.
When you are in your true state, you are more stable, you are not afraid.
You have more space to speak with people in a good way.
All these things are so much better.
But when you are not in your happy state, your natural state,
you sometimes become very suspicious, become angry easily.
You always want something,
but when you get it, you are not satisfied for very long.
And people get very frustrated with this kind of life.
[Q.] And I experienced that too. When I was in Canada,
I used to get toys, but then, as soon as I got them,
I'd play with them for the rest of the day,
but then next day I was bored with them.
[Mooji] Yes. It is like this for many people.
We have a fantasy in the mind, 'If I only get this thing,
if I really get this car, I will be so happy,
everybody will see that I'm really successful'.
They get the car and then after a while, 'It's not a big deal'.
Or, 'I want to be with this person so much!'
Then they become best friends with this person,
and after a while, 'It is OK'.
So the mind imagines, creates and exaggerates many things,
but in the actual experience of being with them ...
'Actually, it was bigger in my mind.'
Like sometimes, I have some food that I like from my town
and I've not been living there for a long time.
But then somebody is coming from my town to visit me,
I say, 'Oh! Get me some patties.
Yes, I want some patties.' I want this particular kind of food
and they go through a lot of trouble to bring this food,
and when it comes and I'm eating it, it's not really so great.
It was more great in my mind.
[M.] When I didn't have it, when I wanted it and knew it is coming,
I started to create a lot in my mind, 'Wow, it'll be so tasty!'
And actually when you are eating it, it is not so tasty,
and you realise that, really, you are just eating memory.
You remember, 'Ah, this was so great. Aah!' And you are eating.
Often, I found also, I was eating and sometimes talking with somebody,
not even paying attention to this food that I have been fantasizing about.
I was just eating. 'Did I eat that? I don't remember eating it.'
It is so ridiculous, actually,
the way that our mind and our identity and personality work.
It is very, very strange. But most people don't recognise that,
because quickly you forget it.
And next time it happens again, and so on.
[M.] I like talking with you.
[laughter]
[Friend] It is such a joy to hear his questions.
[Mooji] Yes, I am so happy.
[Friend 2] He was listening to you, the first time,
and we needed to go back to Chandigarh for my operation.
[F.2] He said, 'I will not go'. He wanted to attend satsang.
[F.2] We will come back, OK?
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