THE PRESIDENCY.
THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED IN A
SINGLE FOUR YEARS UNDER A
PRESIDENT SINCE HERBERT HOOVER.
>> JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT
THIS IS MARY TRUMP, DONALD
TRUMPS NIECE.
AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, TOO.
AND NEVER ENOUGH.
THANKS FOR YOUR INSIGHTS ON
THIS.
YOURE ALSO A PSYCHOLOGIST WHICH
IS VERY INTERESTING.
IT TELLS AS YOU LITTLE ABOUT
WHAT WE SAW OVER THE WEEKEND.
SENATOR CASSIDY SAID REPUBLICANS
WILL NOT WIN AGAIN IF THEY KEEP
PUTTING DONALD TRUMP ON A
PEDESTAL.
WHY DO SO MANY REPUBLICANS
CONTINUE TO ADORE SOMEONE WHO
KNOCKED THEM OUT OF POWER?
>> SADLY, ITS BECAUSE HE GIVES
THEM PERMISSION ONLY THE THEIR
WORST SELFS.
HE ACTIVELY CHAMPION THEIR WHITE
SUPREMACY.
WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT
WHAT THAT MEANS.
WHITE SUPREMACY ISNT SOME
FRINGE THING THAT ONLY THE KKK
AND THE PROUD BOYS EMBRACE.
THIS IS BECOMING MAIN STREAM
REPUBLICANISM AT THIS POINT.
AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS SENATOR
CASSIDY ASIDE, GENERALLY
SPEAKING, MOST ELECTED
REPUBLICANS ARE EITHER STANDING
BY DONALD OR STAYING SILENT AND
BEING COMPLICIT IN THEIR
SILENCE.
SO THEYRE MAKING THE
CALCULATION THAT THEIR BEST PATH
GOING FORWARD IS TO ALLOW DONALD
TO CONTINUE TO BE THE LEADER OF
THEIR PARTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD BE VERY TROUBLING
FOR ALL OF US.
>> THERE IS AN INTERESTING
ASPECT AND DYNAMIC AT PLAY HERE.
AFTER THE CAPITOL RIOT, YOU
SATISFY PEOPLE LIKE THE FORMER
U.N. AMBASSADOR NIKKI HALEY
SAYING, HE WENT DOWN A PATH HE
SHOULDNT HAVE AND WE SHOULDNT
HAVE FOLLOWED HIM AND WE
SHOULDNT HAVE LISTENED TO HIM
AND WE CANT LET THAT EVER
HAPPEN AGAIN.
FAST FORWARD TO YESTERDAY, SHE
TWEETS THIS OUT.
STRONG SPEECH BY PRESIDENT TRUMP
ABOUT THE WINNING POLICIES.
HIS ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT THE
PARTY NEEDS TO UNITE MOVING
FORWARD.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS?
IS THIS NIKKI HALEY TRYING TO
MAKE HERSELF THE HEIR APPARENT
TO THE TRUMP MANTLE?
>> IT MAY WELL BE.
I DONT THINK SHE HAS A SHOT
TEMPERATURE AND I THINK ALL
SHES DONE OVER THE LAST FOUR
YEARS IS UTTERLY DISGRACED
HERSELF AND PROBABLY TORPEDOED
ANY REAL FUTURE SHE HAS IN
POLITICS.
BUT A LOT OF OTHER REPUBLICANS
HAVE FOLLOWED THE SAME
TRAJECTORY.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE TIME TO
RENDER DONALD IRRELEVANT WAS AS
SOON AS THE ELECTION WAS CALLED
FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN.
THEY DIDNT DO THAT.
THEY STOOD ON THE SIDELINES.
THEY LET HIM TELL HIS BIG LIE
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SOME OF THEM REPEATED IT WITH
HIM.
SO BY THE TIME THE INSURRECTION
HAPPENED, WHICH OF COURSE,
DONALD INCITED, AND BY THE TIME
THE SENATE TRIAL HAPPENED,
DONALD HAD MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO
THEM THAT IF THEY DONT STAY
WITH HIM, HE WILL START A THIRD
PARTY WHICH WOULD DECIMATE THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND PROBABLY
TORPEDO ANY CHANCES THEY HAVE
OF, YOU KNOW, WINNING ANY
STATEWIDE OR FEDERAL ELECTIONS
GOING FORWARD.
SO THEY LOST THEIR CHANCE AND
HERE WE ARE.
>> AS WE NOTED IN THE BEGINNING
OF THE SEGMENT, IT IS
TRADITIONAL OR FORMER PRESIDENTS
TO STAY OUT OF THE LIMELIGHT AND
AVOID CRITICIZING THEIR
SUCCESSORS, WHICH HAS IN MANY
WAYS HELPED IMPROVE THEIR IMAGE
IN THE LONG MATERIAL OF NOW,
DONALD TRUMP, HE BROKE AWAY WITH
THAT TRADITION.
IS HE BETTER SERVED STAYING IN
THE SPOTLIGHT OR OUT OF IT GIVEN
THE TROUBLE THAT HE FACES?
>> I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT
THAT MEANS.
DONALD IS NOT A STRATEGIC
THINKER AND HE DOESNT THINK
ABOUT LONG MATERIAL.
IT IS ABOUT WHAT WORKS FOR HIM
IN THE MOMENT.
I THINK THE CALCULATION HES
MAKING, THAT BEING SOMEBODY WHO
CONTINUES TO WIELD POWER IN THE
PARTY IS GOING TO SHIFT FOCUS
AWAY FROM HIS VERY, VERY SERIOUS
LEGAL PROBLEMS AND POTENTIALLY
CRIMINAL CHARGES THAT HE MIGHT
BE FACING AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO I THINK THATS THE GAME HES
PLAYING.
WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL WORK FOR
HIM IS HIGHLY DOUBTFUL.
>> LETS LOOK AHEAD.
THERE ARE SIGNS THAT DONALD
TRUMP MAY BE LOSING HIS GRIM
WILL ON THE MOST DIE HARD
ACTIVISTS.
HE WON JUST 55% IN THE STRAW
POLL.
WHILE 95% SAID THEY WANT TO KEEP
ADVANCING TRUMPS AGENDA, ONLY
68% SAY THEY WANT HIM TO RUN
AGAIN.
SOMETHING HE TEASED.
WHAT DOES THAT SUGGEST TO YOU?
>> THAT SUGGESTS THAT HE MAY
WELL HAVE OVERPLAYED HIS HAND.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE WORST
NUMBERS WEVE SEEN FOR HIM.
I KNOW IT IS A VERY SMALL SAMPLE
SIZE.
IF WERE TALKING ABOUT CPAC,
THOSE ARE THE HARDEST HIT.
HIS SUPPORTERS.
SO I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
MAY INDEED USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE
TO START MOVING FURTHER AWAY
FROM HIM.
BUT WERE GOING TO HAVE TO
SEEFUL THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AGAIN HAS SHOWN VERY LITTLE
SPINE WHEN IT COMES THE
SEPARATING THEMSELVES FROM
DONALD.
I THINK THE REASON ISNT BECAUSE
THEYRE AFRAID OF HIM BUT
BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT HIM.
THEY REPRESENT WHAT THEY BELIEVE
IN.
>> SPEAKING.
REPUBLICAN PARTY, CONSERVATIVE,
TED CRUZ SAID PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
NOT GOING ANYWHERE TO THE
APPLAUSE OF THE CROWD.
AND THEN ON SUNDAY SAID HE
DIDNT WATCH THE PRESIDENTS
SPEECH DOUFLT BELIEVE HIM?
WHY DO YOU THINK HE WOULD SAY
THAT?
>> IM NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHAT
TED CRUZ DOES ANYTHING.
I THINK WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
BETTER OFF IF HED STAYED IN CAN
CANCUN
CANCUN, QUITE HONESTLY.