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>> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.
JOINING ME TONIGHT IS THE ACADEMY AWARD WINNER BEST KNOWN
FOR "ROGER AND ME," "BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE," AND
"FAHRENHEIT 9/11."
HIS NEW FILM, WHICH WAS RELEASED TODAY, IS "PLANET OF THE
HUMANS."
PLEASE WELCOME, MICHAEL MOORE!
HEY, MICHAEL.
>> HEY, STEPHEN.
>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU AS A NATIVE MICHIGANNEDER ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT'S TWEETS.
THE PRESIDENT TWEETED, "IT'S TIME TO LIBERATE MICHIGAN."
WHAT DO YOU THINK HE MEANS BY THAT?
AND DO YOU FEEL LIBERATED?
>> WE'VE BEEN PLANNING OUR LIBERATION FOR THE LAST FOUR
YEARS.
SADLY, MICHIGAN VOTED FOR TRUMP.
SO IT WAS A HUGE EMBARRASSMENT.
AND MY FRIENDS AND I, AND I THINK MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN
MICHIGAN-- WE'VE ALREADY GOT LIBERATION DAY ALL SET.
IT'S NOVEMBER 3, 2020.
THE PARTY STARTS AROUND 8:00 P.M. THAT NIGHT.
>> Stephen: I HOPE SO!
>> WE'LL HAVE A PARADE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG
LIBERATION DAY.
NO, HE TWEETED THAT ABOUT "LIBERATE MICHIGAN."
AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER HE TWEETED LIBERATE MINNESOTA."
AND I THOUGHT, WHO WANTS TO LIBERATE MINNESOTA?
>> Stephen: THEY BOTH HAVE "M"s.
HE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
>> HE WAS GOING TO SAY MISSOURI NEXT, PROBABLY.
NO, LISTEN, IT'S REALLY-- I MEAN, IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE
WE'VE GOT, IN MY MIND, WE'VE GOT THROW VIRUSES THAT WE'RE DEALING
WITH.
THE OBVIOUS ONE, THE CORONAVIRUS
THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SURVIVE.
BUT THE SECOND VIRUS IS THE TRUMP VIRUS THAT NEEDS TO BE
ERADICATED, NONVIOLENTLY AND LEGALLY, AT THE POLLS.
AND THE THIRD VIRUS IS WHAT I CALL THE VIRUS-- THE PRE-TRUMP
VIRUS, THE ONE THAT WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS, LONG BEFORE TRUMP.
IT'S NOT TRUMP.
IT'S-- TRUMP DIDN'T FALL OUT OF THE SKY.
WE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HADN'T QUITE FIXED YET IN
THIS COUNTRY.
AND THEY WERE CAUSING US, I THINK A LOT OF PAIN AND DESPAIR
AND WHATEVER.
AND SO, IF WE CAN GET TO THAT THIRD VIRUS, AFTER WE GET RID OF
THIS-- THE CORONAVIRUS, THE COVID-19 THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW,
AND IF WE CAN REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE IN NOVEMBER, THEN I THINK
THAT-- I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE-- THOSE WHO ARE FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO BE AT HOME, LIKE I HAVE BEEN.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS SAYING, "WHAT ARE YOU
TALKING ABOUT 'FORTUNATE'?
I'M CLIMBING THE WALLS."
I KNOW IF YOU HAVE KIDS IT'S BEEN HARD.
IT'S HARD WORK.
I'M PAST THAT POINT IN MY LIFE.
BUT I THINK THAT-- I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THINKING
ABOUT, LIKE, HOW DO WE WANT TO LIVE AFTER THIS PANDEMIC?
BECAUSE WE WILL -- >> Stephen: AND WHAT
RESPONSIBILITY DO I HAVE FOR YOU?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: AS MY FELLOW AMERICAN.
>> YES, EXACTLY.
RIGHT?
I MEAN, THAT'S SO-- RIGHT DOWN-- IT'S AS SIMPLE AS WE'VE BEEN
ASKED TO STAY INSIDE SO THAT WE DON'T HARM ANYONE ELSE.
AND IT'S AMAZE AGO.
>> Stephen: THAT IS THE PART THAT IS REALLY HARD TO
UNDERSTAND, THE PEOPLE WHO-- AND I KNOW IT'S A TINY FRACTION OF
THE POPULATION THAT IS GOING OUT THERE AND PROTESTING, BUT IT'S
SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, OF
COURSE, YOU CAN TAKE A RISK WITH YOUR OWN LIFE.
THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY.
BUT IT'S NOT YOUR LIFE THAT YOU'RE RISKING.
IT'S EVERYONE ELSE.
IT'S THE HOSPITAL WORKERS.
IT'S THE ELDERLY.
IT'S EVERYONE THAT YOU CAME IN CONTACT WITH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
ACT AS IF THAT YOU'RE CARRYING THE CORONAVIRUS.
>> RIGHT.
I'M IN NEW YORK CITY.
I HAVE AN APARTMENT HERE THAT I'M HERE WHEN I'M WORKING HERE.
I LIVE IN MICHIGAN.
I HAVE AN APARTMENT THERE.
AND YOU LOOK OUT THE WINDOW HERE, THE STREETS ARE EMPTY.
I MEAN, I'M REALLY AMAZED-- BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK OF NEW
YORKERS, OF ALL PEOPLE, TO TELL THEM TO STAY INSIDE, AND YET,
THEY HAVE.
I MEAN, THE MAJORITY HAVE.
SO THE ONES WHO HAVEN'T, I DON'T EYE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
JUST LIKE YOU.
BUT I THINK THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN-- HAVE BEEN WILLING TO
SACRIFICE SO THAT OTHERS CAN LIVE, AND ESPECIALLY THE HEALTH
CARE WORKERS.
MAYOR de BLASIO ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE A
TICKER TAPE PARADE FOR THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND THE
FIRST RESPONDERS WHEN THIS IS ALL OVER.
AND MY FIRST-- MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, "LET THEM HAVE THE TIME OFF
THAT WE'VE KIND OF HAD HERE."
THE LAST THING I WANT-- YOU KNOW HOW LONG BROADWAY IS?
TO MAKE THEM WALK DOWN BROADWAY AFTER THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW,
WORKING 24 HOURS A DAY.
IT'S PROBABLY THE LAST THING THEY'D WANT TO DO.
BUT, BOY, WHATEVER WE PAY THEM, WE DON'T PAY THEM ENOUGH.
WHATEVER TIME OFF THEY NEED, THEY GET IT.
WE HAVE TO-- AND I DON'T MEAN JUST THEM, TOO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STOCKED THE SHELVES OF
THE GROCERY STORE.
>> Stephen: PEOPLE WHO HAVE PICKED UP YOUR GARBAGE.
>> THE BUS DRIVER WHO IS TAKING THE HEALTH CARE WORKERS TO THE
HOSPITAL.
THE REASON WE HAVE THIS ELECTRICITY TODAY, SOMEBODY IS
AT CON-ED WORKING.
SOMEBODY IS AT THE WATER PLANT SO I CAN TURN THE TAP ON IN MY
FAUCET.
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY RISKING THEIR LIVES
SO I CAN HAVE WATER, SO I CAN-- YOU AND I CAN TALK OVER THIS
DEVICE, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL-- I THINK-- I THINK PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO-- I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO THINK THAT ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE TO WORK FOR
$7.25 AN HOUR.
I THINK THAT'S GONE.
I SAW YOU A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND YOU SAID-- NOT BERNIE-- YOU
SAID, WHEN YOU STOP NOW AND SEE ALL THIS, THE LAST THING WE
SHOULD EVER HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT IS WHETHER OR NOT EVERYBODY
SHOULD BE COVERED.
WHETHER OR NOT EVERYBODY HAS HEALTH INSURANCE.
>> Stephen: RIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THE SIMPLE
TRUTH, THAT FOR ME TO BE SAFE, YOU HAVE TO BE SAFE, TOO.
>> RIGHT.
WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.
THAT'S RIGHT.
IT'S THE GOLDEN RULE, ISN'T IT?
>> Stephen: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR
WHITMER.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: SHE'S GETTING A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE REPUBLICANS
RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY KNOW SHE'S POPULAR IN MICHIGAN.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: POLLS SHOW HER RESPONSE TO THE CORONAVIRUS IS
MORE POPULAR THAN THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALK SHE MIGHT BE JOE BIDEN'S PICK FOR
VICE PRESIDENT.
WHAT DO WE NEED TON ABOUT YOUR GOVERNOR?
>> WELL, WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER.
IN THE MIDTERM ELECTION IN 2018, WE TRIED TO RECTIFY OUR
EMBARRASSMENT OF VOTING FOR TRUMP IN 2016.
SO IN THE OFF-YEAR ELECTION, WE THREW OUT ALL THE REPUBLICANS IN
THE TOP LEADERSHIP IN LANSING, SO THEY'RE ALL DEMOCRATS NOW.
WE HAVE WHITMER, WHO IS A WOMAN-- GOVERNOR.
WE HAVE A BLACK LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
WE HAVE A LESBIAN ATTORNEY GENERAL.
AND WE HAVE A SINGLE MOM WHO IS THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
THAT'S OUR NEW LEADERSHIP.
AND TWO REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN WHO REPRESENTED THE WHITEHOUSE
SUBURBS OF DETROIT WERE BOTH TOSSED OUT IN THAT ELECTION AND
REPLACED WITH DEMOCRATIC WOMEN.
SO, THAT WAS A SIGN OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
AND SHE-- YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS REALLY HAPPY.
AND TO SEE HER SORT OF TAKE IT ON THE CHIN FROM TRUMP, TO HAVE
HIM HOLD UP SENDING MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE IN MICHIGAN NEEDED
IN ORDER TO LIVE, TO SURVIVE, WAS JUST THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS--
OUTRAGEOUS THING.
AND I THINK-- TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HER BEING A
POSSIBLE RUNNING MATE FOR JOE BIDEN, I CAN JUST ANSWER THAT BY
SAYING WHAT SHE HAS SAID AND WHAT I KNOW THE PEOPLE OF
MICHIGAN FEEL.
SHE CAN'T LEAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE-- WE-- IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING FROM THE LEADERSHIP IN
D.C., WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN MICHIGAN AND IN ALL THE STATES.
THE GOVERNORS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PROBABLY GOING TO PULL US
OUT OF THIS.
AND SHE CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
>> Stephen: MICHAEL, WE HAVE TO A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.
BUT PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE ANYBODY.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE MR. MICHAEL MOORE.