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In the wheel game there are all sorts of fitment,
which means you've probably seen the meme
where they talk about hella fail and hella flush and stance
and dropped and slammed and maxi.
I don't know, there's all these different names,
but when you really break it down there
are four major types of wheel fitment.
We decided that we would talk to you
about it today because that's kind of what we do
as a business, that's in our name.
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Anyway, let's get into number one.
So the first main style of fitment is tucked.
Tucked Fitment is when the wheel and the tire
with suspension components as a whole, sit within
the stock fender.
Now you can achieve that with after market fenders as well
or over fenders when people do their math wrong.
But really, tucked fender is kind of like a look,
and it is a thing that's pretty, well, common.
Tucked fitment is something that a lot of people do
depending on the certain circumstances
that they're building their car for,
which kind of sounds a little bit weird when you
think about it.
But here's what I mean by that,
a lot of individuals would do tucked fitment
for two reasons.
Either one, they mess up or two, they're doing it for
air suspension.
Now tucked fitment is something that is extremely common
on air suspension vehicles that are looking for
a tucked fitment.
It usually makes the vehicle look wider,
look bigger and when it's on the ground
it does look really, really, good.
But tucked fitment usually results in
a less wide track set up
or a less wide stance set up
because of them trying to fit the wheel
inside the wheel well.
In addition to that, you also have to remember
that if you're going for a tucked set up, you're usually
looking at a higher offset wheel
because it's going to bring the entire wheel
inside the fender.
So a lot of people that are running a tucked setup,
especially on their air suspension cars
or stock cars,
are usually looking at a very flat profile wheel.
You're going to see that on a lot of different vehicles,
especially the 45 to 55 offset range,
but tucked is extremely common and you'll see it
pretty much only in the air suspension scene,
you won't see many people running a full tucked setup
on coil overs, but you will see it sometimes
when people make a mistake
on their fitment.
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Tucked fitment does require you to know
a couple things.
A lot of times with tucked fitment you are going to have to
roll your fenders.
Now if you didn't know,
a lot of times with your fenders,
you have the metal and it swoops inward
but it doesn't actually swoop upward,
which is the way you want it to
especially when you go into air suspension,
which you know if you don't fix that problem,
you're ultimately going to cut into your tires.
It also requires you to understand that you're
probably going to need to have a very narrow wheel
as a whole and a very flat facing profile
so that you can fit everything underneath just fine.
But then of course you're going to run into,
well, potentially rubbing issues especially with a
suspension component.
It's not something that is the most commong type of fitment
but when it's done right it looks
extremely, extremely good.
I think those style of tucked fitment look great
on an air suspension vehicle.
It's like smaller sport compact,
something like an Audi TT looks absolutely killer
with a tucked fitment in it.
Now a lot of people will argue
that tucked fitment can be done with
just the wheel, just the tire,
or the wheel and tire together
but in our eyes,
we see it as the entire wheel
needs to be inside the fender liner.
The second, and probably one of the more common setups
is the Flush Fitment, so if you guys think
tucked fitment is when it's inside the fender
you can assume that flush fitment means
that it's on par with the fender.
Now, like I said before,
a lot of people argue, what is a flush setup?
You'll see people take pictures of their
tucked fitment and call it flush and it's
just not how it works.
People will say it's either the wheel or the tire
when really in reality it's both.
You want to make sure that if you're doing a flush setup
that the wheel is matching up to the fenderliner
dang near perfect.
Flush is going to give your car a meatier setup
in terms of how it looks
mostly because you're going to get that
setup, that flush setup with both wheels and tires.
The tires help out so much with giving a flush
strong look when you're looking at it
and it's probably one of the most common setups
when you're looking for like track oriented
or actual use purpose for your wheel fitment.
A lot of people will run a meaty setup and that usually
requires their wheels to be flush with the car.
Now, when you run a flush fitment you do need to take
a couple extra things into consideration
and it is something that we would probably say
is a little bit tougher to achieve than your
tucked fitment.
And the reason that we say that is because it requires
just a little bit more math.
And don't get mad at us but that's the truth.
When you're looking at getting different wheel fitment
you're talking in aspect of millimeters
and if you're millimeters off
or if you buy the wrong aspect ratio for your tire
you can completely mess up the flush look
and ultimately result in a tucked look
and if you're running static suspension on a wheel
that has a tire that's pulled back
it's going to look a little weird.
It's going to look like you're
supposed to be on air suspension
when you're not.
Flushed is probably one of my favotire looks and something
that we see the most common use of on most cars
but it's definitely something that's common
for the actual, like, track.
If you're looking for something that's going to get the job
done the best way possible,
you can upsize your tire size based on your wheel width,
which you actually explain in another video on
how to calculate tire stretch
or, you know, meat, you can do that.
Check out the video, I think it's going to be like up there.
And last but not least, the flush fitment look is probably
going to give you the best bang for your buck
if you're looking at something that's maximizing the space
that the wheel can be in with your tire,
you're going to result in something that's going to make
your car feel better and there's going to be very few times
that you're going to be able to upsize your tire to where
you start to lose traction path,
especially when you're looking at
a flush fitment.
It looks great,
it's absolutely killer,
and at the same time, it's probably going to maximize
the performance if that's something
that you really care about.
Now, some people don't,
and that's completely cool.
We're going to get into the third type of fitment
which is poke fitment.
Now if you guys didn't know,
this is probably a running joke for a lot of people
that when you make a mistake with your fitment,
you probably have poke,
and sometimes that's true.
Sometimes people mess up their offset and they're
ultimately getting a wheel that sticks out half an inch
instead of being inside their wheel line half an inch.
But poke fitment actually has a little bit of a history
and story behind it.
You see, back in the day when you're at the drag strip,
there were a lot of people like your dad or grandpa
that would ultimately go to the track with their car,
switch out the wheels in the back,
and then run it down the strip the whole day.
And what they realized is that there's very few regulations
in regards to how big your rear wheels could be in relation
to your fenders,
especially if you're just running it for fun.
As a result, people started running wider wheels
in the back,
and because of just the way it ultimately worked,
the wheels started to poke out more, and more, and more.
Over more time, you had ultimately the domestic market
starting to grow this fascination with having wider wheels
in the back for both track purposes and function.
And then eventually, you know, the car scene took over
and they're like that looks really cool,
I'm going to do that just because I have a Camaro
and I want to do that.
Or I have a Mustang and I want to do that.
And ultimately, that's where a lot of the poke scene
comes from.
Now that doesn't mean that it's not in other scenes,
because everyone gets mad when we try to relate it to one
specific community.
But poke fitment does have its hay day, predominently
in the muscle car scene,
and for good reason,
that's what people like to do.
But poke fitment's a little weird.
You're also going to see it on
different types of vehicles as well.
VW pickup trucks usually have a poke fitment when
they're done right and it looks pretty baller.
There are other types of people that like
the poke fitment style because it gives them the more
aggressive look.
I did it on my own Datsun one time and I thought
it was really cool,
then I didn't the next season so I had to sell my
diamon racing steelys for like eighty dollars a pop.
It was a good time.
Poke fitment is something that's a litte bit weird
because it doesn't usually require as much math.
Usually when you look at your offset, you just go smaller
than the recommended offset which is going to poke
your wheel out.
But a lot of times you're going to thrash out your fenders
and it's going to look a little bit weird if you don't
do it correctly.
Now, poke fitment does look pretty cool on some muscle cars
if you're looking at the right setup.
A little bit of poke never hurt anybody as long as
you have the suspension components that are actually
going to keep your car from destroying your tires
and destorying your fender
because if you have a stock fitment
or you have a stock suspension with some sort of
poke fitment and your car is wobbling all over the place
and you go to launch it because you want to race a car
at the stoplight,
you're probably going to tear into your tires
and it's just no fun.
Now you're probably wondering where the fourth one is,
and that is probably the most common one right now.
And that's what we're going to call stance fitment.
Now there's probably people already in the comments
section talking about how that's not the proper terminology
and that it should be cambered, hella flush or hella fail,
or whatever it is.
But ultimately when you look at it from a bare bones
balcony point of view,
it all kind of surrounds the same style,
and that is stance fitment.
Now, stance fitment takes cues from pretty much
all the other three in terms of fitting different
style wheels widths to achieve a different style look
but what stance has that the other ones don't
is more of an aesthetic purpose rather than just
a function purpose
and at the same time it starts to play with a lot of things
that the other three don't really need to.
When you look at stance fitment,
you could say that, you know, like a Dodge Hellcat
has a stance to it, which is very true
but a G35 on twelve and a half wide, you know,
concept 1C of 003s has stance, and that's the difference.
Every car can have a stance,
but not every car has stance.
Which is really weird when I start saying it out loud,
but if you've watched the video between juice and sauce
you'll probably get it as well.
When you look at the fitment,
the stance fitment game,
you're looking at things that include
camber, tow, adjustment, driveability.
You're looking at air suspension,
you're looking at angles of different things to make sure
that the wheels fit appropriately.
We've talked about it in the past but not every stance
vehicle needs to have negative twelve degrees of camber.
A lot of it is just very slight camber to fit whatever
they need to do.
But when a car has proper stance,
that's when you're really looking at just
a nicely done car.
But it is one of the hardest types of fitment to get.
You start playing around with things like stretch,
like camber, like suspension components to make
these wheels fit.
Now, you can use like camber gang and all that sort of stuff
to encompass the stance fitment but overall
stance just has something about it that's really unlike
a whole lot else.
We always talk, well not us,
but there's a lot of people that always talk a lot of smack
against stance fitment, yet they're always the same people
that ultimately look at the car at the car show on Sundays.
So in terms of stance kind of being, you know,
the odd one out,
it still is probably one of the most popular ones
that people really enjoy looking at.
And it requires the most amount of work.
Stance fitment really is something
that's a little bit crazy.
You're talking about different sort of degree angles
and things like that,
that you don't have to worry about much
when you're looking at a tucked fitment
or even a flush fitment.
Poke fitment is usually just something
if you have a domestic vehicle or if you made a mistake,
which is that's the case, you might have to go into
stance fitment or buy some over fenders like our boy
Jasper did one time
when he bought four and a half inch lips.
In terms of other fitment, there definitely are others
out there but those are the four most common types
of fitment in terms of what you're probably
going to see in the community to this day.
So let us know in the comments what sort of fitment
you have and don't forget to subscribe.
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I'm Alex from Fitment Industries, we'll see you later.
Peace.