That's a great shirt
Thanks
Did you iron it?
I think it's just that new I might have just never washed it
Wow
This is the second time I've worn it
Really?
Yeah
My phone's ringing, hold on
Typical
Got it
Received
Hi, I'm Andrew Hales today. I'm chatting with
my manager
Jordan war Rana
No, how do you say your last name? Ah Moroni? Well, thank her onna okay, we've talked about this before actually pretty much
Deal you think a daily conversation with us? All right, Just War. Oh not maybe just try it. I was thinking actually chatting with a
Bike Oh chatting with the most charming person. I know that
Gate clicks. Ooh, I like that. Yeah
Yeah, because you really are I think one of the most charismatic people I know I really appreciate that
Yeah
That's why people tell you that I used to feel like that about you and I watched you like before I knew you
Okay, and then and then I got the picture
See is funny
Have you always been funny. Um, yeah, who's your highest earning client?
um
Are we talking about complete earnings like adsense branded integrations like distribution everything?
You say it's this kid who is an incredible?
Youtuber and his name is reaction time. Okay. Yes he is
No just made him that he's uh,
21 now, I think how much does you make uh
He makes a good living more than I'll ever make probably he is he's a control have you seen entourage. Mm-hmm
Yeah, you kind of like Ari
You know, I don't think so. No, no like I would
Know he's cool. He's like the most likable character
if you're watching but the thing is people don't like to deal with people like that, and I don't either I want to be
Like the way that I do business is my being friends with everybody
And he's not friends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dick. Oh, yeah, is it dick head but it's like still fun to watch
Maybe we maybe more fictionally it is better. It's totally fun to watch from the outside
Yeah, dealing with those types of people in person. It's horrible. I hate it. I don't I don't do it anymore. I used to
Who wants to deal with assholes you went to college?
Mm-hmm, you had to get had to to give this job to work for the firm
Yeah, I either there are people who did not go to college though. Okay. Look, we're really good
I remember when I first met you in
2013. Mm-hmm. Yeah, 12 or 13. Oh, yeah, you know it was a big fan of yours beforehand
Yeah, yeah, like he told me that yeah when I did the pranks every Monday, yeah, there's actually a video
That I found yeah, nice the Monday thing that sparks my there was a video that I had of me
With my friend you remember Brian?
Yes
there's a video of us and somebody asked us like together like who's your favorite youtuber and at the same exact time we both said
Andrew hell's no
I'll find it. It's really good. Wait. Wait, what's the video? It's like a BuzzFeed video
No, it's just a almost people sent us questions to answer for something that we're doing
Okay
Well, that's platter yeah, no, I was a big fan of yours not anymore. Uh
Yeah, this dishes week. I do movie agents make fun of you for being a YouTube agent. Yeah for sure. Okay when I left
Oh
Let me let me get back into the whole thing. All right. Sorry Shh
When I started I did want to be a sports agent but even more so I wanted to be on SportsCenter and
When that wasn't gonna happen then I was like, okay cool. I'm not gonna be the talent maybe I can work with the talent
So first I started with sports and I really wanted to do that and then it moved on to
Movie scripts and I was obsessed with movie scripts like my senior year in college. I just got really into it
I started reading all of these scripts
I was like You know what I can
work with this and I want to read these and write these and and work with people who are better at me than writing and
Get these sold. Hmm. So that was the whole goal. Like when I got out here was to sell movie scripts
So I started at an agency
in the mail room and
Worked my way to a desk which was business affairs, and he went to a comedy desk
where you work for a touring agent or a booking agent and
It was cool and it was great experience. Yeah, but it's not
You know when you're an agent you're it's very transactional you're not you're not doing the the day-to-day
Creative and I really kind of wanted that I didn't know yet. How does one harness charm?
How do you get good at being charming? Hmm?
To the question, I think it's um
What's like one of my main assets is
Is how
These are little clothes you got big feet. Yeah, you got big feet - what are you used eleven eleven and a half?
What do you say Miu Wow?
We could share shoes. I
Think that I have a lot of Drive because I want to be successful, right?
and
You can
Every day when you wake up, you can be aiming for something right. I want something
I want to be I want I want a nice house. I want money
I want a nice car I want but you got it you got for it, right? Yeah, and in my opinion
like how we were talked about Ari Gold my way of getting what I want and moving through the business is
by being front of people and finding who I can trust and who's gonna do business with me and who is gonna trust me and
Who I get along with
No, but have you always been this naturally energetic, I think so. Yeah, I think yeah, I mean there's days where
Because you're always yeah, I hate everybody
There ice I promise no. Yeah. Well you see my assistant. It's bad just like Ari Gold you still kind of like
Make it work. And you add like a witty remark to it all you know
Sometimes but you I mean you've seen you've seen like when you come to the office problem
It's like over no you ever seen that. No. I also get angry, too
Sometimes real angry if things don't if somebody screws something up
It gets diking I can be mean
Watch this watch this
See that or watch again
You try it
Good see I feel like you hate me right now
Good very good. But yeah, he comes from I
want to be successful and so one of the greatest assets that I know how to do is to
Be friends of people and he along with them. So right now what I'm doing is I'm seducing you
Seduce have you read books on this shit? No, I kind of made all that up just now everything literally everything I've said
um
Have you ever wondered if you're a narcissist?
Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah
Yeah, I think I mean or a psychopath so sure. Yeah, but you lack empathy uh-huh
Yeah, I didn't we don't lack empathy. I have too much empathy and I try to hide it cuz I'm really emotional overly emotional
Yeah, you get real sad
Ya know I think it's um the in the ego thing, yeah, I don't really think of them a big big of an ego
no III think that I
my ego is from
As long as people know where I'm coming from yeah, I am coming from a good place
Usually whenever I do anything and it's usually for the betterment of whatever will work out. So if I'm representing you
and
I screw up a deal for you
As long as you understand, dude
I won't here's why I did what I did right you can see every single step that I did
You can see the email chain. You can see here the conversations that we're having
Mm-hmm
That that's where my ego is. I want it's like if you think that I screw something up for you and you start
Yeah, thinking bad of me or how I do my work. That's that's where I'm like dude. I need him to know. Yeah
my my
Where I'm coming from yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah attentions. Okay, so, you know how I
Think you came up with the title if I wrote a book, it'd be I'm a fucking loser. That's right. Yeah, why?
um
Well, you are, yeah
You're you're no I know at least
Biggest those I've ever met. But the first thing is is they just consider the least. You're the smallest loser I've ever met
Hmm. I want you to remember that
With titles
You need something that pops and yeah, you need something that
People is quickly seriously. Okay. Yeah. I mean I'm a fuckin bullet. I
Feel like you just think I'm a loser. No now you're trolling me and you're tricking me
Tired of like a book. I'm writing a book call. I'm a fucking is there yeah, and just for fun. Just again cakes Wow
No, no, seriously. No, I want your success. I want you to be as successful as possible. I think that book would be successful
Okay, you already started I already read the first three chapters. What would you say your issue is?
With that word. I mean, what are you doing my work ethic? Yeah. Why don't we have a meeting right now about you?
What do you mean? What is it? What's going on? This is what I'm doing. What's going on? I'm doing these I
I'm gonna do these every Wednesday and everyone said yeah, then we maybe even an extra one on Friday. Okay?
What's the point of?
Their fun. I am learning
What's the meeting people learn from?
Like I had a marriage counselor
Just asking a bunch of shit about love and relationship mom. I had a
Expert on narcissism. They're kind of like documentaries. I feel like they're like more tighter
Podcast more edited podcast cinematic party podcast, it's already it's already up
Chatting with it's literally just two birds. I literally take the audio from these and just know I know that's it
Okay, that's literally that's all it needs to be. All right last year was tough ad pocalypse
We still recovering from that. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like still kind of shitty
The essence still is like yeah, I I don't think that was the reason for mental health issues unless it was financial for people
Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people had to go get jobs. I was I was doing
Post mates for like two months really delivering. Yeah. I did not know that
Yeah, damn. Yeah, that's Angus called me. We should we coulda gotten you a deal wit post mates. Just give you free food
I know you did
right
We did do that and I did live off that for like a month. Me too. Yeah ordered a pizza
Yeah, the guy he was like he was like, hey, man
I need five of your clients do this you get five of your clients to do this. Is that still going on?
Yeah, like the free food free credit
Miami it's not free. It's for your it's freer
To get them recognized but yeah, you can do it. No. Yeah like they're still doing that program. What do you do right now?
What do you right now? What do you want? You tweet about post Knights right now and they'll go over fill it
Yeah right now seriously, I'm not kidding. I'll text them
um
That's wonderful though, how much are they gonna at like 250? Oh wow
Oh, okay. Hold on has to be like an original
Tweet though we can do it later. No, let me think
What about
Used to used to
deliver for post mates now now I get now I get my post base delivered to me in
No, bitch you
Don't think that would be good for your audience
Hey, man, I'm
Have you met everyone on YouTube pretty much they all know you? Yeah, we think that Jordan we're on it
You're probably the most famous inside permit inside person on
amongst youtubers Wow
Honestly, I I don't I don't know if that's true. But no I bet it is but it is it is one of my
Favorite things to do to know everybody I said, I literally study people. Yeah
Influencers. I want to know every single person
Yeah, I don't know why I think it's when I started what does that sound? They just went off?
I'm such a douche and yeah, it's kind of
It's kind of loud, huh? You know, it's a lot less love than like one of those wall things. Yeah. Yeah, there's a bullshit
I
Want it to be a
Sports agent and so one of the things that I did when I was a kid was study
every single
athlete like if it was the I literally would go through every NBA team and
Memorize every person on the roster where they went to college
What position they were how much they weighed, you know, whatever
Yeah, and so when I got into social media, it wasn't that different
It was like cool how many people have more than a hundred thousand subscribers?
Cool. I'll try to memorize all of them and then I just kept going going going and then you would see him that party is
in advance, and eventually, I just kind of forgot who I met and I kind of just was like
Oh should I know this person so I would just go up and talk to hey we met you know, whatever
Um, if you could be a sports agent now, what do you know not you're comfortable now?
I'm never comfortable. I was want more hmm. Yeah, you're never gonna be comfortable. I want to be I hope I don't know
I haven't what I need to be comfortable. Mmm security
Like if I won the lotto I feel like I'd be okay four million in the bank
20 million
mmm, no, I
Said like I said, I go her go 100 million hundred. Melody. Cool. Good padding. Yes. I like the private jet
Yeah, I want to leave I want to yacht. Yeah, go on a yacht and then I'll be happy I went your yachts
20 million private a right around there. I don't know
I'll never have a yacht you have to get me a yacht hmm. We need chatting with to really take off
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm figuring out how to like
Delegate and if I can do it like every day then it might
Have a better chance of that well in all seriousness, I don't want to burn it. Yes. Ooh, that's a really good point, too
I mean this is this is now me you ready? Because I'll drop I'll drop it here. You ready go for?
So there's a couple things you have to be aware of okay on your career and so one you've already you've already achieved
Viral success, you know what it's like to have
Multiple videos go crazy on the Internet millions and millions of millions. But how many views does your main channel have all-time 300 mil
300 mil around there
That's my vas this way more than I would have guessed. Really
Yeah, we just said like like 80 what you're doing right now is not necessarily for viewers
I mean you actually are getting something out of this personally. Yeah, which I think is much more influential for you as a person
Yeah, no, I do enjoy these. Yeah, I'm so it's not cringy for me. Like, you know, it's not
John your other stuff. Yeah. It was like I would get have like PTSD
After every video, no, what's insane many many pts
you know and we used to talk about that too because I I
Remember like we would tie would give you like ideas and you were like ha you should do that
And I was like no, I'm telling like you should do it cuz you're the funny one
Like you're the mm is really your I think people must have mistaken your awkwardness
You can use you. What's another chump for I don't like that introversion, you know, really just your straight-up awkwardness you
Know people with comedy. Oh, it wasn't necessarily comedy to you all the time
No, right. No. Yeah the people they think it's
Like a complete character, but it's it's that definitely at least 50% me. Yeah, yeah
I remember the first time I ever met you and you tried to shake my hand
And and I did that thing that you did in that video
Like the handshake and I was kidding. Yeah, but like you didn't know I was kidding and you were like you were like
Alright then and I remember thinking mice are shit is not joking. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I knew
That's what I knew. I loved, you know, I remember when you you're like Dave right now. You gotta meet this girl
You introduced me to this girl and the firm that worked there to and you're like what's up, this is Andrew
Like you just she's just like let yeah, you just like fed me to the birds, you know
Yeah, she's like hi
I didn't know I was like hey, uh and you just thought it was so fucking funny. Yeah
Well, she I think it's cuz she had a crush on, you know, that was tradition
no way in hell where you're going with this mmm in terms of your the next execution of your career or
What you're gonna execute in your career. Mmm
This is really cool because you're the part of you getting something out of this. Yeah, and then I think if as long as you're
deriving
Value. Mm-hmm for you. That's the most important part and people are going to also what do you want to do?
What do you want to where do you want to be in Fugger's just cute? Yeah, I mean really it's now about their business
influencers revenue
Building businesses other businesses. What? What is your title at the firm?
Talent manager now head talent manager head. Yeah, you have a salary. Yep, plus Commission and bonuses
Yep, Wow. Yeah, but who knows me? I mean, it's like the the world is so quickly changing
it's really nice to have a salary and it's really nice to have help from every I mean, that's very
Awesome to have an amazing group of people behind me. Yeah
But as we move forward, I mean I don't really know what's gonna happen, I'm really busy
you know, it's a lot of it's a lot of so I mean
I need more and more help in its grow
My personal business is growing and then my clients personal businesses are growing
So I don't know where I want to be in five years
I just want to keep I just want to do things as efficiently as possible
And hope that it all goes the right way
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