something happened in the last general
election that properly fractured what
the Labour Party had considered its base
the people it was invented to represent
and and exist for and so it's important
to come here and have some pretty robust
conversations with people in Grimsby who
is to blame for what happened to the
Labour Party in the last general
election people do mention Jeremy Corbyn
there's no point pretending otherwise
but to suggest that it's jeremy corbyn's
fault that we lost in 2015 or that we
lost in 2010 it's not fair there needs
to be a fundamental change in our
understanding of where we've been going
wrong for me the whole thing is about
trust so it is about how we go about
building trust and that isn't going to
happen overnight it's not going to
happen on the first day that we are back
there just because you know I have a
personality that people think is good it
won't happen like that what it will have
to be ism is a team effort you will have
to appeal to a labour membership that
has been very supportive of Jeremy
Corbyn people remember about you that
you said you would stab him in the front
rather than the back a lot of the labour
membership may see you as hostile to
Jeremy Corbyn do you need to get over
that it is a clear metaphor to say that
I would always be upfront with him which
I then went on to be I think that the
reality is is if if that is the most
important thing to you and you can't sit
down and talk to me and hear my side of
the story your side of story then you
know that that's a shame but I have to
move on because we have a job to do we
all have a job to do do you regret the
use of language one of the reasons that
people in the country actually like
people like me is because I talk a
little bit like them and that means I
will make mistakes and that means I will
admit when I make mistakes as well so
yes if I could turn back time I would I
would say I won't speak behind jeremy
corbyn's back I will always tell him to
his face what about this sort of program
of nationalization that the party's been
advocating for the last few years that's
something you'd stick with the truth is
is that politics has to be about choices
and yes I would like to see the rail
reen a tional eyes
but first I would want to make sure
there was no homeless people on our
streets so in terms of this sort of
sweeping program of nationalization you
would maybe have another look at that I
think that the the manifesto in and of
itself in the both the previous two
manifestos for stuff we didn't win on
them and we have to recognize that so
just saying oh you're going to take it
on wholesale would not be the Labour
Party actually accepting what has just
been said to it by the country for a lot
of people the manifesto was an avalanche
when they needed a lifeline given the
events that happened today between Iran
and the u.s. how would you you know you
could be a future prime minister how
would you respond to that what I would
do if I was the prime minister in this
situation is seek to be talking to the
President of the United States to ask
what the outcome of the actions what was
intended because the reason it feels
reckless the reason it feels dangerous
is because the faith that we have
currently in the current
commander-in-chief is that we don't know
what the plan is what's his plan one of
the things that people you know maybe
think about you is that unlike a lot of
politicians you are somebody that you
could go for a pint where you can you
know you you seem like the type of
person that you know could relate and
can relate to normal people and on the
flip side of that do you think people
see you as a state's woman as somebody
that could go and do trade negotiations
with Donald Trump that could go to the
g20 and all of that stuff to suggest
that you can't relate to people and then
be studious and take your work seriously
it's not something I understand if I'm
honest I just want to ask you as well
about social media and the the level of
abuse you get that's something I feel
like you're one of one of the may be top
targets when it like appears there's a
sort of ticker on the bottom of a new
scream Jess Phillips would or wouldn't
rape and it's just when you worked with
people who had been raped for many many
years
I did it's harrowing to have that level
thrown at you but it's absolutely
nothing nothing will ever silence me
every single time that people like that
try to use violence or threats to
silence people like me it just gives me
fuel to stand up further I also need to
ask you about
brexit is there anything positive from
your perspective about brexit we've got
to get on with making that the best it
is and the only positive thing I can say
about it is that at least it is done and
the country can now work towards getting
the very best deal and actually getting
the government to deliver on all those
promises that they wrote on sides of
buses I shall look forward to making
Boris Johnson deliver on all of the many
things he said would be available to us
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