What is your state? What is your state? Tradition. What is your tradition?
Okay, so you’re Iskon, so we Vedanta has reject Iskon.
We do not accept Iskon. This one is Hare Krishna, is that right? But we reject with uh...
It's a Hari Krishna movement.
Okay. And what is your tradition pandit ji? I am um...Vishishtadvaita, qualified non-dualist.
Okay, so you don't believe in any what do you say sex, you...?
We don't believe in.. you see, they the ISKCON, their authority is Purana.
We as uh.. vedantins, we reject Puranas as authority and our only authority is Upanishads, and Bhagavad Gita.
Okay. So these guys believe in all kinds of miracles and wonders that we reject.
For them Krishna is real, is...is a person isn't it?
He is a real person who walked on the earth had 16,000 wives. he lifted a mountain on his finger. They believe that literally happened. Whereas we
believe that is figurative, that is not literal. What about Vishnu, do you believe that Vishnu
is real or is that also figurative? Vishnu.. Vishnu means the all prevailing,
so that consciousness which is all prevailing is Brahman, that is what we believe.
Okay, so he’s not a person as well? He's not a person in the sky lying on a cloud
on a snake, all of this is mythology. Okay.
Alright, Amoud, I think we got your point and we got to this point.
And we have to-. *Chatter*
Reject this philosophy. Hare Krishna.
*Chatter* So brother Amoud just to clarify look,
um.. you clearly in your own tradition allows you to have different positions-?
Correct. From what I understand, right?
So look, I think.. based on your own tradition you need to be respectful, that pandit ji is following
something that is allowed by your tradition. No no no, but what happens is that when he says
mythology it's an insult to the uh.. uh..-. But according to his position and sect,
he's allowed to say that. I mean you may not like it,
but he’s allowed to say it. Your’s is a third channel, right?
So our Hinduism or it should not be misrepresented,
only one-sided thing should not be represented.
So there are many different-. ISKCON does not represent Hinduism.
The.. the mainstream Hinduism was what is called Vedanta, you are not following Vedanta.
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has uh.. so much, he has teachings on Vedanta.
Yeah, you also believe Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is incarnation of God,
we don't accept that he's incarnation of God. Alright let’s agree to disagree guys, I don’t
think we’ll come to the conclusion here. What I’m saying is that the.. the.. the..
the third party has to understand that our different opinion.. I”m not saying this-.
I think they realize that there are many different opinions within Hinduism.
So main two differences are there, one is impersonalism, and is one is personalism.
So pandit ji, I respect him, he has an impersonal view of God, Brahman.
And a lot of jugular words are used, whereas there is a personal God, Krishna, and that philosophy is
much simpler by just chanting of the holy name. You go to the spiritual world, where you eternally
live with God- *voice lag*. Yeah it's like
Islam, you go to Jannat (Heaven). That is simple philosophy.
Yeah, you go to Jannat (Heaven) and you enjoy. Not uh-.
The same? No not… that is only with Krishna, not with
uh.. something separate from Krishna, okay? Yeah.
We will have all the past times but not *voice lag* separate.
*Chatter* Okay, Amoud, we have to let you go-.
*Chatter* So ultimately everybody is working for bliss.
*Chatter* We have to I’m afraid.. we have
to um.. we have to end here I’m afraid. Um.. thank you for joining.
Thank you for joining again brother Amoud, we’ll try giving you more time next time.
*Chatter* Thank you.