>> BOY, YOU'VE GOT A LIVELY BUNCH IN HERE TONIGHT.
>> Stephen: ALWAYS, ALWAYS.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> COME ON.
>> Stephen: YEAH.
WELL, THERE'S AN OPEN BAR IN THE LOBBY.
>> IS THAT IT.
>> Stephen: IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELPS.
>> I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY WERE EATING THE GUMMI BEARS OR
SOMETHING.
>> Stephen: THEY MIGHT.
THEY MIGHT.
YOU EVER DO THE GUMMY BEARS?
>> I DON'T LIKE GUMMY BEAR S.
>> Stephen: YOU EVER GOTTEN HIGH?
>> WELL, NO, I DON'T, ACTUALLY.
>> Stephen: HAVE YOU EVER.
I DIDN'T SAY, "DO YOU?" SENATOR, ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WOULD YOU LOOK A LAWYER PRESENT?
HAVE YOU EVER GOTTEN HIGH, DR. PHIL?
>> IN HIGH SCHOOL I TRIED.
AND I HAVE -- >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU MEAN
YOU TRIED?
ARE YOU IMMUNE?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU TRIED?
>> NO, SERIOUSLY, I GET HUNG OVER WHILE I'M DRINKING.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
>> IT'S LIKE SOMEBODY HITS ME IN THE HEAD WITH AN AXE.
I CAN'T GET DRUNK.
>> Stephen: YOU CAN'T GET HUNG OVER FROM POT.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT.
>> Stephen: IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE LIKE IT.
I'M NOT PUSHING IT.
I'M NOT SAYING GO DO IT.
BUT FACTUALLY YOU CAN'T GET HUNG OVER FROM POT.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE PUSHING IT.
>> Stephen: I'M REPORTING THE FACTS AS I SEE THEM, SIR.
>> AS YOU SEE THEM, OR AS YOU EXPERIENCE THEM.
>> Stephen: I WOULD LIKE A LAWYER.
>> ARE YOU HIGH NOW?
>> Stephen: I AM NOT.
ARE YOU A COP?
YOU HAVE TO TELL ME IF YOU ARE A COP OR THIS IS ENTRAPMENT.
>> I AM NOT A COP.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE DR. PHIL, AND THIS IS BIG NEWS-- TODAY
THIS WAS ANNOUNCED-- YOU'RE RENEWED THROUGH 2023.
CONGRATULATIONS.
>> YEAH.
>> Stephen: HOW MANY YEARS IS THAT NOW?
>> PLAWZ WE'RE IN OUR 17th SEASON NOW.
THAT WILL TAKE TO US 21.
>> Stephen: WOW.
IN ALL THAT TIME, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU PUBLICLY
COUNSELED THE WAY YOU DO?
>> I THINK WE'VE SO FAR HAD, LIKE, 17,000 GUESTS ON THE SHOW.
>> Stephen: WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD A NEW PROBLEM?
>> OH,, YOU KNOW, ABOUT-- EVERY-- ABOUT THE TIME I SAY,
"I'VE HEARD IT ALL," YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES.
YOU WALK THROUGH THE DOOR, AND GU, "HOLY (BLEEP)."
YOU KNOW, "I NEVER HEARD THIS ONE."
JUST THE OTHER DAY, I HAD SOME-- WOMEN COME ON THE SHOW THAT SAID
THEY WERE PREGNANT FOR, LIKE, THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
I SAID, "EXCUSE ME?" THEY SAID, "THREE TO FIVE
YEARS."
THERE'S A WHOLE COMMUNITY OUT THERE OF THESE WOMEN.
THEY HAVE WEBSITE.
THEY TALK TO EACH GLRG THEY THINK THEY'RE CONSTANTLY
PREGNANT?
>> NO, ONCE, FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
THEY THINK THEY'RE PREGNANT FOR FIVE YEARS.
I BROUGHT IN EXPERTS -- >> Stephen: THE KID COMES OUT
WITH A FULL SET OF CHOPPERS.
>> NO!
I HAD DOCTORS COME IN AND DO ULTRASOUNDS ON THEM.
THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE AT ALL!
THERE'S THIS TERM CALLED "CRYPTIC PREGNANCY, WHERE SOME
WOMEN GET PREGNANT AND DON'T KNOW IT UNTIL THE BABY SHOWS UP.
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
NOW, IT'S USUALLY... THEY'RE LARGE WOMEN, AND THEY-- AND THEY
DON'T KNOW IT.
IT CAN SLIP UP ON IT YOU.
IT HAPPENS.
IT'S CALLED CRYPTIC PREGNANCY.
THESE PEOPLE JUST HIJACKED THE TERM, REDEFINED IT AND SAID IT'S
WHEN YOU'RE PREGNANT FOR FIVE YEARS.
I SAID, "HERE'S A MEDICAL DICTIONARY, THIS IS NOT WHAT IT
MEANS."
THERE'S A WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT DECIDES THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?
HOW DO YOU COUNSEL THEM?
HOW DO YOU TALK THEM DOWN OFF THE "I'VE BEEN PREGNANT FOR FIVE
YEARS" LEDGE?
>> I STARTED WITH WATCH MY LIPS-- "YOU'RE NOT PREGNANT!"
"HERE'S AN ULTRASOUND.
LOOK, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE."
>> Stephen: WHAT EFFECT DOES THAT HAVE WHEN YOU SHOW THEM?
>> NONE.
>> Stephen: PEOPLE BECOME NEWS JUNKIES.
IS THAT JUST A TERM OR CAN PEOPLE ACTUALLY BE ADDICTED TO
THE NEWS?
>> THEY CAN GET TO THE POINT BOROUGH IT IS HABITUAL.
I WOULDN'T CALL IT AN ADDICTION IN THE SENSE THERE'S A
NEUROLOGICAL PATHWAY THEY GET IN A LOOP FOR BUT IT BECOMES
HABITUAL TO THE POINT THEY EXCLUDE OTHER PARTS OF THEIR
LIFE.
THEY EXCLUDE EXERCISE, FAMILY TIME, HOBBIES-- ALL THAT, WHERE
THEY'RE JUST GLUED TO THE DAMN TELEVISION WATCHING THIS STUFF.
>> Stephen: YOU'VE BEEN READING MY JOURNAL.
>> YES, YEAH.
I'M SURPRISED YOU HAVE TIME TO WRITE IN IT.
>> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU-- WHAT DO YOU DO FOR SOMEBODY?
SERIOUSLY, SUPREME TO UNPLUG FROM THIS STUFF AND GET OUT
THERE AND REALIZE THERE'S STILL A WORLD GOG OUT THERE.
AND WHEN DID IT-- WHEN DID IT STOP BEING OKAY TO DISAGREE?
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, HOW COME YOU CAN'T--
( APPLAUSE )
DISAGREE ON SOMETHING AND THEN GO TO LUNCH AND HAVE A GOOD
TIME?
>> Stephen: WE COULD.
YOU AND I COULD DISAGREE.
>> WE COULD, BUT MOST PEOPLE CAN'T.
IT USED TO BE THAT YOU COULD DO THAT BUT NOW IT SEEMS YOU HAVE
TO HATE SOMEBODY THAT DISAGREE WITH YOU.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE SO FRACTIONALIZED.
>> Stephen: WOULD YOU MOTHER ALLOW YOU TO SAY HATE?
>> NO.
>> Stephen: I WASN'T ALLOWED, EITHER.
>> BUT NOW, IT'S REALLY-- THERE'S SUCH AN INTOLERANCE THAT
IT'S REALLY GETTING TOXIC.
THAT BOARGTZ ME.
>> Stephen: AGAIN, AGAIN, THE GUMMIES HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE
YOU MELLOW PEOPLE OUT, AND THEY DON'T FIGHT.
NOT A LOT OF FISTFIGHTS WHEN PEOPLE ARE GETTING HIGH.
>> BUT THOSE ARE TWO ENDS OF THE CONTINUUM-- EITHER BEING
ABSOLUTELY ADAMANTLY TOXIC OR DON'T GIVE A (BLEEP).
AND THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY AREA IN BETWEEN.
AND I HOPE WE CAN GET SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
>> Stephen: DO YOU FOLLOW POLITICS?
I KNOW YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT POLITICS, BUT DO YOU FOLLOW
POLITICS?
>> I DO FOLLOW IT, AND I DON'T TALK POLITICS BECAUSE I DON'T
THINK I SHOULD USE MY PLATFORM TO INFLUENCE PEOPLE ON THINGS I
DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT.
AND I, FRANKLY, DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT, AND MOST OF THE
PEOPLE THAT DO TALK ABOUT IT DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO BE
TALKING ABOUT IT
>> Stephen: WELL, SPEAKING OF INTOLERANCE AND PEOPLE
EXPRESSING HATE, WE GOT THIS-- THIS WEEK WE HAD THIS-- THIS
MAIL BOMBER.
DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, SENDING THESE PIPE BOMBS AROUND THE
UNITED STATES.
I THINK IT'S NINE OR 10 AT THIS POINT SENT AROUND.
I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE.
>> YESTERDAY IN TRIBECA.
>> Stephen: WHEN THIS HAPPENS, DO YOU IMMEDIATELY THINK TO
ANALYZE WHO THIS PERSON MIGHT BE AND WHAT MIGHT MOTIVATE SOMEBODY
LIKE THAT?
>> I DO, I DO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'VE DONE A LOT OF
PROFILING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STUFF.
>> Stephen: LIKE FORENSIC ANALYSIS AND STUFF LIKE THAT?
>> WHEN I FINISHED MY TRAINING I DID A YEAR'S POSTDOCTORAL
FELLOWSHIP IN FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGY, AND THAT INVOLVES
LEGAL ASPECTS.
SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
AND THESE KIND OF PEOPLE ARE HIGHLY ENTITLED INDIVIDUALS.
THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY'RE
DOING, THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SEND THESE BOMBS TO PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE A RIGHT AND NO ACCOUNTABILITY IF THEY'RE
TARGETING SOMEONE THAT HAS AN IDEOLOGY, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY
OBLIVIOUS THAT THEY MIGHT KILL SOME WOMAN WALKING ALONG THE
STREET WITH A BABY BUGGY WITH THEIR BABIES.
THEY'RE SO ENTITLED THEY DON'T HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AT
ALL.
THOSE ARE DANGEROUS PEOPLE.
WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EMPATHY FOR INNOCENT PEOPLE, THOSE ARE
DANGEROUS PEOPLE.
>> Stephen: THIS HAS UPSET SOME PEOPLE.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS INDICATED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO
USE POLICY DECISIONS TO TRY TO DEFINE GENDER AS SOMEONE'S BIRTH
SEX OR THEIR GENITALIA AT BIRTH-- THEREBY, AS SOME PEOPLE
HAVE DESCRIBED IT, DEFINING TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS OUT OF
EXISTENCE.
>> GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
THAT-- LISTEN, THAT'S THE-- THAT'S THE ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF
ARROGANCE.
IF YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST DEFINE SOMETHING OUT OF EXISTENCE,
WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?
YOU THINK, "I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE WORD.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE DICTIONARY, AND THESE PEOPLE
CEASE TO EXIST?" KISS MY ASS!
YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
YOU SEE, I'M JUST GOING TO CROSS THAT WORD OUT OF OUR VOCABULARY,
AND THIS ENTIRE PART OF THE WORLD STOPS TO EXIST.
>> Stephen: NOW, LET ME ASK YOU THIS: IF YOU WERE TALKING
WITH SOMEONE WHO SAID, "NO I'M GOING TO DEFINE THOSE PEOPLE OUT
OF EXISTENCE," COULD YOU THEN GO HAVE LUNCH WITH THAT PERSON AND
HAVE A GOOD TIME WITH THEM, AS YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR
CONVERSATION?
>> AFTER THEY KISS MY ASS.
( LAUGHTER ) ( APPLAUSE )
>> Stephen: THE APPETIZER ROUND IS ASS UNDER GLAZ.
>> YOU'RE TOO SMART-- YOU'RE TOO SMART FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.
>> Stephen: I KNOW, I KNOW.
WHO WAS THE FIRST PERFECT YOU EVER "DR. PHILED."
WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON YOU SAID, "I KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR
YOU."
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINING MOMENT.
I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, AND IT WASN'T DR. PHIL BUT IT WAS IN
THE FIFTH GRADE.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
>> IT WAS IN THE FIFTH GRADE.
I WAS RAISED YOU DON'T TALK BACK TO ADULTS.
AND I WAS ON THE PLAYGROUND AND A FRIEND OF MINE WAS GETTING
REALLY BULLIED BY A BUNCH OF SIXTH GRADERS SO I WENT OVER TO
HELP HIM.
IT WASN'T HEROIC.
I WAS LIKE, LET'S RUN.
LET'S GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE.
IT TURNED INTO A FIGHT, AND WE GOT PULLED INTO THE PRINCIPAL'S
OFFICE, AND MY FIFTH GRADE TEACHER WHO I ALWAYS LOOKED UP
TO-- MRS. GATES.
HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SHE DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW THE
TRUTH.
SHE JUST GOT IN THERE AND GOT ALL OVER US.
I SAID, "THIS IS NOT FAIR."
I WAS TRYING TO HELP HIM.
AND SHE SAID YEAH BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE GUFF OFF
ANYBODY, ARE YOU MISTER?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
SOMEBODY FLIP THE SWITCHED IN ME BECAUSE FOR THE THE FIRST TIME
EVER I TALKED BACK TO AN ADULT.
AND I SAID, "THAT'S RIGHT, LADY.
AND THAT INCLUDES YOU."
AND I GOT SUSPENDED FOR THREE DAYS.
>> Stephen: AS WELL YOU SHOULD.
>> AS WELL I -- >> Stephen: YOU JUST THREW
MRS. GATES UNDER THE BUS RIGHT NOW ON NATIONAL DIVISION TWIGZ.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD SHE IS OR IF SHE'S STILL ALIVE BURKE
THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU WANT TO GET BY IN THIS WORLD YOU BETTER TAKE CARE OF
YOURSELF.
AND I DIDN'T TRUST HER FROM THAT MOMENT ON.
>> Stephen: WOW.
THIS TURNED-- THIS TURNED DARK REALLY QUICK.
>> IT GOT REALLY DARK.
( LAUGHTER )
MRS. GATES.
SHE WAS A GATEWAY TEACHER.
>> Stephen: DR. PHIL.
LOVELY TO SEE YOU.
I'LL SEE YOU EVERY SO OFTEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2023.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE PICKUP.
"DR. PHIL" AIRS WEEKDAYS
THE IT'S DR. PHIL.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.